Building a 60,000 square foot outdoor legal grow in Washington State HELP!

[BWG707]

If i was you, I'd definitely place the holes more than 3' apart. Placing them that close will not give you any room to get around not to mention the problems that it will cause when when the plants start touching each other. Believe me I went through it this year. I had a jungle, could barely squeeze between my plants to care for them. Give yourself plenty of room between plants, you'll thank me later I bet.

 

[stumps]

Not trying to yank your chain. I've thought about doing the same thing. Just can't come to terms with what the selling price is going to be. I expect the market to be flooded for at least the first few years. Oh and if you need a hand tilling I have a killer compact tractor that works great in a greenhouse also a auger that works great for digging holes for those gal or two gal pots. Hit me up if you're in need your first year or two.

 

[stumps]

3 foot holes. had to low crawl to get to the back.

 

[Two Year Old Sasquatch]

That's what I was hoping I wouldn't hear. A 3' pot with a 3' perimeter takes up almost 64 sq ' of space. A 30,000 square foot area will only allow for 468 plants at that configuration. If I allow for a 3' pot and 4' area around it that's 95 sq' which only allows for 315 plants. Seems Like I can grow a lot more than 315 plants on 3/4 of an acre right?

 

[stumps]

My greenhouse is 10x22 first year I did 11 plants. last year I did 5.

 

[Two Year Old Sasquatch]

Thanks Stumps! I expect the opposite to happen. Too many businesses will fail the first year and the demand will be high causing insufficiency and when that happens the state will offer up more licenses or more space to existing licenses. It will take a while to balance the two. The gluts will happen at the end of the growing season when all the outdoor crops come in. The window only opens for 30 days this year so waiting to find out what the prices are going to be won't be advantageous. I'm jumping in hoping to help define the price points. If you know someone with money I have a business plan!

 

[stumps]

You might think about a light deprivation chamber and do some potted also. After veg you can get at least two harvests in a summer. It's kind of a cool set up flowering with full summer sun.

 

[Two Year Old Sasquatch]

What caused the reduction? Was it spacing requirements? What was the yield difference?

 

[Two Year Old Sasquatch]

5 plants in 220 square feet is 44 square feet each. I'm proposing 64sq feet each yet BWG707 says it's not enough. I'd like to see his plants they must be huge! light deprivation chamber....

 

[stumps]

lol I had a G13 that would have taken the back 1/3 of the greenhouse the first year. had lots of room this year with 5. heat was a big issue. Things didn't take off till the heat broke. best yielding plant this year was just shy of a lb. Guess your to new to the forums to IM.

 

[Two Year Old Sasquatch]

IM? ha yeah I'm new to the forum thing. I just started one of my own to connect us and talk about the legal business issues. Check it out you might want to join. Only about 7-10 members now.

 

[GrowersWarehouse]

stupid answer, like a farmer is not gonna be able to sell 1200 lbs of broccoli or cukes.

If you are going to "farm" then it makes perfect sence to focus on one strain. Each strain "likes" this or that different and if you can master one strain and make money on that then you should go for it.

Like vineyards specialize in a piticular wine.

Some people try and gain credence by attacking others. Generally I've noticed the successful farmers are secure enough that when someone shows us even a crappy looking buds you compliment it and tactfully give them advice. Growing quality indoors is extremely difficult and take trial and ERROR to learn. When I first started I used to have a reoccuring dream that I was hooking up with some chick then every time in the dream my partner would walk in and when he walked in the chick turned into a plant...crazy I know. Of course this was before google and how to books existed.

 

[BWG707]

5 plants in 220 square feet is 44 square feet each. I'm proposing 64sq feet each yet BWG707 says it's not enough. I'd like to see his plants they must be huge! light deprivation chamber....

i thought you were talking about drilling holes 3' on center. You are saying 6' on center?

 

[Two Year Old Sasquatch]

I'm thinking 3' diameter hole with a 3' perimeter so really a 9' circle with a plan in the middle. It would create 6' between plants. I'd really like to see 1 and 1/2 food around each plant leaving 3' between every plant so yea 6' on center. Seems right to me what do you think?

 

[BWG707]

That sounds good. I just wanted you to be aware about how much working room you want around your plants, it can become a problem. Sounds like you got a plan going, do all the research and reading you can. GL.

 

[UncleBuck]

5 plants in 220 square feet is 44 square feet each. I'm proposing 64sq feet each yet BWG707 says it's not enough. I'd like to see his plants they must be huge! light deprivation chamber....

it's not near enough.

leave at least 100 sq ft per plant.

g13 grows like a motherfucker and can be hard to finish even down here by the 45th parallel, much less up near spokane.

good luck, you will need a lot of it.

 

[doublejj]

If I were you I would start with 100 plants in 300gl smart pots each filled with 2yds of the best potting soil you can truck in. If you hire several people to help, you might pull off something your first year. You'll learn a lot, and you'll do much better the second year. A million little plants is too much work, you'll do much better with fewer big plants. Your probably gonna need to hire someone from one of the big farms in Cali to assist you. If you've never grown on a large scale outdoors, you have a rude awakening. But brother I applaud your gumption & courage.....Good luck from NorCal....

 

[Two Year Old Sasquatch]

The research I did indicated it'd be great outdoors but not in arid and hot climates. I'll hammer out some more research but what hardiness zone are you in? Got any other awesome strains good for Spokane outdoors?

 

[UncleBuck]

The research I did indicated it'd be great outdoors but not in arid and hot climates. I'll hammer out some more research but what hardiness zone are you in? Got any other awesome strains good for Spokane outdoors?

nothing works well outdoors north of the 45th. especially if you don't have a greenhouse, climate controls, or light dep (or all of the above).

 

[Two Year Old Sasquatch]

Thanks for the advice but I'm going for it. If I want these licenses I have to have 50% cultivation the first year. I have lots of help, I'll be living on grounds in my tipi, which I sleep in every night anyway even though I have a big house. I can get 20 volunteers here for a week as I've been blessed with lots of friends. I'm a 47 year old head and I have professional MJ growers in the family and blood brothers, only their indoor growers, and they will jabber on the phone for hours if I let them. Thanks to this model I can shut you guys off! I can pull this off if I can find the capital. I am just trying to mitigate a few things and polish my business plan. The labor isn't an issue. I plan on trucking in 233 yards of garden soil and I'm ready for the awakening!