The Freedom To Be Fat..Does Government Have The Right To "Outlaw" Unhealthy Foods?

see4

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What's the point of abusing animals when the only outcome is fat fucks with high cholesterol? There's very few fat vegans.
based on my interactions with some vegans, i would argue differently. with the exception of sunni, the vegans i know are actually slightly overweight to quite overweight. many think that they can eat whatever they like, including many sweets that fall under the vegan category... and many don't exercise.

i had an ex-gf in college that went vegan right after we broke up. she was a budgie-butt within three months.
 

see4

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These mindless sheep will never admit their community organizer of a leader produced the most failed federal program in American history. Confirming their embarrassment is not an option.
how can you say it has failed when the program in its entirety has not been fully implemented. could you argue that it is at least an attempt to make progress? [whether you see it as failed or not]
 

NLXSK1

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I haven't seen any thread on this and was wondering what everyone's opinion is?..with Ocare, will the obese eventually be penalized?
It is my understanding that Hemp was made illegal because the cotton lobby did not want the competition.

If we allow government to choose what we can or cannot eat, the decisions would likely be political and not medical...

How much of your life do you want them to control? We cannot have more than a 1.5 gallon flush toilet for christ sakes!!
 

FreedomWorks

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how can you say it has failed when the program in its entirety has not been fully implemented. could you argue that it is at least an attempt to make progress? [whether you see it as failed or not]
The only reason it's not "fully implemented" is because 10's of millions of more people would be losing their health insurance and be dropped out of the work force all at the same time. Under Obama's Employer Mandate ACA. That is why Obama delayed it. Didn't you know? :roll:
 

beenthere

New Member
how can you say it has failed when the program in its entirety has not been fully implemented. could you argue that it is at least an attempt to make progress? [whether you see it as failed or not]
Because it was fatally flawed to begin with.

Please explain to me how we are going to insure millions of more Americans while the cost to do it goes down?

I'll have an open mind.
 

Canna Sylvan

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based on my interactions with some vegans, i would argue differently. with the exception of sunni, the vegans i know are actually slightly overweight to quite overweight. many think that they can eat whatever they like, including many sweets that fall under the vegan category... and many don't exercise.

i had an ex-gf in college that went vegan right after we broke up. she was a budgie-butt within three months.
I got real skinny after going vegan and have to eat constantly. I barely ate anything compared to now and was 30 pounds heavier. Vegan sweets have way less sugar. At least the cakes, pies and ice cream I make.
 

burgertime2010

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What is the benefit of forcing people to be miserable? I am all for getting fit and staying healthy. But why can't we leave it at Michelle's "let's move" campaign? Why do we need to take it to the point of socialized medicine?
First, I am not forcing anyone to do anything 2. If my anti corn syrup agenda makes people miserable than Diabetes will really sting. Isn't a health concern that causes so many medical issues fiscally responsible to taxpayers?
 

travisw

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In the politifact link you provided, they were discussing Rubio's claim that under Obamacare people who "have a doctor they've been seeing for the last 15 or 20 years, they won't be able to keep going to that doctor."

They rate his claim mostly false.
 

ginwilly

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Goverment does no such thing. Insurance companys operating on the free market principle can enter or leave the market whenever they want.
Sorry bro. You failed to list an example of how Obamacare regulates doctors
Not that it will change your mind but read up on Meaningful Use and how EMTALA unintentionally encourages doctors to sell out to hospitals and things may be clearer to you. Doctors still have a choice, but in typical central planning style, the choices created are shitty and less shitty.
 

FreedomWorks

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First, I am not forcing anyone to do anything 2. If my anti corn syrup agenda makes people miserable than Diabetes will really sting. Isn't a health concern that causes so many medical issues fiscally responsible to taxpayers?
It shouldn't be. But the way our system is set up right now. Yes, it is a taxpayer problem. So is Obamacare. We have healthy people with premiums going up, so that people who smoke a pack a day can get cheaper coverage. People who actually want to work are having to quit their 2nd job to lower their income, so that they qualify for more subsidies and health care is more affordable for their families. This is not America. It's something different.
 

FreedomWorks

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People are having to choose between getting a third job to cover the higher cost of health care,
OR quitting their second job to qualify for more government subsidies; lower health care costs.
 

burgertime2010

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On the other hand, what is the benefit of a drug induced country?

Remember, you are pro drug legalization.

Tell us all the difference.
I don't distinguish illicit drugs from pharmacological ones and don't use either for recreation really. This country is drug induced already one way or another. I view it as a personal choice to be made by adults and doctors.
 

NoDrama

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We cannot have more than a 1.5 gallon flush toilet for christ sakes!!
You can have them, but they are not allowed to be sold.
Old Buildings my man, old buildings.
Easy to rebuild, 3 gallon flush for even the biggest deuce drop.
 
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