Thinking about a caregivers card!

aisach

aisach

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I read the ASR and AAC on the State website, and ADHS rules.
I get the 2.5 oz, and or 12 plants.
What I dont understand is the price structure.
What would I ask for in reimbursment fees for medicine?
The dispenseries only deliver here, and their prices are too stupid!
Any southern AZ caregivers out there have any advise?
 
apothecarist

apothecarist

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Legally, you're only allowed to recover actual costs incurred from your patient. The price structure is whatever you negotiate with your patient. I know of several people doing 1oz a month to the patient at no cost and the caregiver keeps the excess. I've heard of patients asking for ridiculous amounts over a free oz a month that and caregivers giving quite a bit less. It's just whatever works between the 2 people involved.
 
aisach

aisach

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Hmmm...
I thought about totaling the amount of each grow (electric, nutes, etc) and the cost of the seeds and soils. And at least recovering my costs.
Wouldn't want to give away free 'Z's' since the caregiver card costs more than the patient card. And soil is so damn time-consuming.
Now I'm whining. :-?
 
BluJayz

BluJayz

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Encase it was overlooked, you can only receive reimbursement for actual costs from your actual patients.

So 5 legal customers MAX.

Legally it's not lucrative. However if you're in the business of healing, then you won't have to worry about money and can give it away. (especially if you're growing for them)

The good about the caregiver licence (without grow rights) is that you can have in you're possession 2.5 oz per registered patient you have plus yourself (assuming you are one). That would be a maximum of 15 oz every two weeks that you don't go to jail for.
 
aisach

aisach

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Yes the legal patient is what I was thinking of in terms of reimbursement.
I would be a caregiver only, and not a patient.
Since AZ struck down PTSD, anxiety, etc, I cannot qualify.
But I would have the one patient with a legitimate qualifying condition.
I'll be giving this a lot of thought.
 
BluJayz

BluJayz

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Look at it this way. At the very least you will continue to fine tune your horticulture skills and help someone in severe pain. Two thumbs up in my book. bongsmilie
 
aisach

aisach

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He's in pain alright! Chronic lower back pain, and inability to sleep.
I'm concerned also about the # of plants. 12 is not a lot when you include cuttings and veg.
Guess I need another client, but I don't know of another here, at this point.
Is there a registry for those services? Or am I 'dreaming'?
Will ADHS provide a list??? LOL
 
BluJayz

BluJayz

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It's enough, you can probably pull 1/2lb every 3/mo on a simple setup.

Some people advertise on internet and craigslist. Most of the available patients are in SW AZ like Yuma. Or NE Arizona like the Navajo area. You will not find a AZDHS list.
 
aisach

aisach

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apothecarist said:
Legally, you're only allowed to recover actual costs incurred from your patient.

I know of several people doing 1oz a month to the patient at no cost and the caregiver keeps the excess. I've heard of patients asking for ridiculous amounts over a free oz a month that and caregivers giving quite a bit less.
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BluJayz said:
Encase it was overlooked, you can only receive reimbursement for actual costs from your actual patients.


Legally it's not lucrative. However if you're in the business of healing, then you won't have to worry about money and can give it away. (especially if you're growing for them)
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Please explain what you mean about 'cost from actual patients'.

Also, I had not heard that caregivers give away product. New one on me I guess. So I was taken aback for a few days thinking about that. I will, however, reconsider my perspective to accommodate what was suggested.
 
Hÿdra

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aisach said:
Please explain what you mean about 'cost from actual patients'.

Also, I had not heard that caregivers give away product. New one on me I guess. So I was taken aback for a few days thinking about that. I will, however, reconsider my perspective to accommodate what was suggested.
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They still sell it, they just cant SAY they sell it due to the laws. Welcome to Jabberwocky AKA Rollitup AZ section.... where free meds aren't free, and the compassion isn't all that compassionate :0 You're gonna have a GREAT time:)
 
aisach

aisach

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I read a few posts about the free oz. Not in AZ med section tho.
I sense a little sarcasm there Hydra. LOL. Jaggerwoky, hmmmm...
Seems like ADHS would require some bookkeeping.
I've dealt with them for many years in another capacity, and they are sticklers for documentation.
 
BluJayz

BluJayz

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aisach said:
Please explain what you mean about 'cost from actual patients'.

Also, I had not heard that caregivers give away product. New one on me I guess. So I was taken aback for a few days thinking about that. I will, however, reconsider my perspective to accommodate what was suggested.
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Basically; you can only receive money in the value = to actual cost of manufacturing the cannabis. You also can only get money (actual cost) from your registered patients. (So in your case 1)

Meaning if I asked you for an oz you could not sell it to me for any amount of money. You would have to give it to me for "free".

The law states you can not receive anything of value for cannabis from patients that are not registered patients with you and from them only actual cost. (That's why you see people selling raffle tickets and "giving" the cannabis away.)

As for the free cannabis; I was suggesting you take possession of his grow rights. Provide him with a specific amount of free cannabis and keep the rest. Or the rest could be sold to him at a very low cost. This is in my opinion the right way to do it. However some will disagree.

Edit: As for the bookkeeping most clubs/dispensary keep a book with id#, name and entry date; sometimes quantity. Some don't do anything, I'm not sure what the rules are for caregivers. Mine in the past has never kept a record.
 
aisach

aisach

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OK. I got hung up on the original wording, but its straight in my head now.
He'd NEVER give up his growing rights. Hes the one that taught me to grow.
Hes been a grower for 20 years, even went to the big house for a year.
Now THAT really sucks. Anyhow,

Down in Tucson, the scene is pretty pathetic. Really, and truly dismal.
Such a backwards hick-town. But I'm stuck here for the time being.

Before I forget, can a caregiver go to a dispensary and buy clones?
 
aisach

aisach

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I took the plunge a few days ago. I qualified for the green card. Didn't think I could but....
Algea Releaf - here I come. As soon as I find an apartment and move out of my car.
No wonder I have nerve pain in my neck and back. Oy!!
 
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