Obamacare Enrollment Estimates Less Than 50,000

ginwilly said:
It's a great thing when it's someone else's wealth and you are the recipient. If you are the target and it's your wealth, not so much. I feel satisfaction, pride and gratitude that I can when I help those less fortunate, it's rewarding. Taking from me to support things I may not support just doesn't have the same results.

Voluntary charity is almost always a noble thing, taking by force is almost never noble. It's also against the principles we are founded on. British royalty is an excellent example of redistribution of wealth, I'm not a fan.
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The wealth gap grows and grows and you talk about charity.
 
beenthere said:
Like I said, whoever deleted it saved UncleBuck further humiliation.
You have to be honest, guys like Buckie that dish it out but can't take it themselves are lil whiny bitches.

And if progressives on this board don't like me, I'll wear it like a badge of honor.
Why you so mad, bro?
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uhhh not so much mad as just annoyed at the onslaught of endless obamacare threads.

I just think there are bigger things to worry about.

Obviously you don't understand what I means. What humiliation no one cared enough to delete it for two days. I'm not the only mod here.
 
Balzac89 said:
The wealth gap grows and grows and you talk about charity.
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The wealth gap grows and grows in large part to government policies like QEinfinity yet for some reason, you fail to acknowledge the fail. Our corporate laws are another huge advantage given to haves that the have nots are not privvy to. Wealth redistribution is a comfy idea in theory, in practice we are distributing our wealth to the top.

Both sides do it, but we only complain when it's the side we are against. No administrations policies have led to a greater disparity, all in the name of fairness. Kinda sucks when you think about it.
 
londonfog said:
At this time most Americans have inadequate healthcare ( or none at all). Most find out how little health care they have AFTER a crisis, in which case it maybe to late. People without public or private insurance coverage are costly to all of us. When someone gets ill and goes to ER they must treat you by law, regardless of your inability to pay. Most Americans agree with this law. The catch is that only those ER's who receive funds for Medicare patients or other federal funds are in the jurisdiction of this law. The more uninsured patients in the ER, the higher the bills to Medicare, which is paid from the general fund which is created out of our taxes.
It is in everyone's best interests to maximize the number of Americans who are insured.

Do you have a better way to deal with people who use the ER for health care in which the charges are forwarded to tax payers or via increased charges ???



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Many of your points are true but forcing all Americans to purchase something they may not want is tyranny in it's infancy.

Why can't there be laws to aid and relieve the uninsured who find themselves bankrupt from medical catastrophes?
Why can't we make it a law that lets insurance companies compete across state lines?

Don't get me wrong, there are some good ideas in the ACA, many of us just don't like a law lets the government shove it down our throats.
 
ginwilly said:
The wealth gap grows and grows in large part to government policies like QEinfinity yet for some reason, you fail to acknowledge the fail. Our corporate laws are another huge advantage given to haves that the have nots are not privvy to. Wealth redistribution is a comfy idea in theory, in practice we are distributing our wealth to the top.

Both sides do it, but we only complain when it's the side we are against. No administrations policies have led to a greater disparity, all in the name of fairness. Kinda sucks when you think about it.
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Private corporations are to blame.
 
beenthere said:
Many of your points are true but forcing all Americans to purchase something they may not want is tyranny in it's infancy.

Why can't there be laws to aid and relieve the uninsured who find themselves bankrupt from medical catastrophes?
Why can't we make it a law that lets insurance companies compete across state lines?

Don't get me wrong, there are some good ideas in the ACA, many of us just don't like a law lets the government shove it down our throats.
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Before you know it Medicaid will expand to the point that it covers everyone.
 
beenthere said:
Many of your points are true but forcing all Americans to purchase something they may not want is tyranny in it's infancy.

Why can't there be laws to aid and relieve the uninsured who find themselves bankrupt from medical catastrophes?
Why can't we make it a law that lets insurance companies compete across state lines?

Don't get me wrong, there are some good ideas in the ACA, many of us just don't like a law lets the government shove it down our throats.
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Do you drive a car ????
 
londonfog said:
Your link of proof is a poll from 2010??? No one even knew cost of AHCA then
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What other possible proof of people's opinion can I give besides a poll asking people's opinion?

You suck at this game, you promised you'd give reasons why O'care was so awesome, I see none so far.
 
Balzac89 said:
uhhh not so much mad as just annoyed at the onslaught of endless obamacare threads.

I just think there are bigger things to worry about.

Obviously you don't understand what I means. What humiliation no one cared enough to delete it for two days. I'm not the only mod here.
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If you are so annoyed by the posts, simple, ignore them.
And if you personally think there are bigger things to worry about, get to worrying about them and let me decided what I deem bigger!

BTW, is it against forum rules to spam threads with countless unrelated posts of pictures?
 
Balzac89 said:
Private corporations are to blame.
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Private corporations have used the central planners and the central planners have used private corporations. It's the nature of the beast. People who seek power will eventually achieve power. The idea is to limit central planning. Or you could go with the theory that MORE central planning is needed to protect us from the harm of central planning. Seems to work from the left-eye view.
 
ginwilly said:
What other possible proof of people's opinion can I give besides a poll asking people's opinion?

You suck at this game, you promised you'd give reasons why O'care was so awesome, I see none so far.
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ANY poll can be tilted by the questions asked. I did explain one reason why AHCA would benefit tax payers and drive cost down in the ER..you choose to ignore it. It's still your turn

Recap

You- I don't want to be forced to pay for something
Me- You are already being forced to pay for something. At least make that cost lower for you and family.
 
beenthere said:
We have a lot in common, green.
Most lefties on this board assume all conservatives are white republicans.
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That's because most Lefties are "intention oriented" rather than "result/fact oriented". It's funny how most Lefties I communicate with on a daily basis have COMPLETELY abandoned the subject of Obamacare and have quickly taken up the Hillary/Elizabeth Warren 2016 "war chant". Like they also aren't part of the problem. Oh yeah, great idea, let's go from one liar to that liars lying ex-SOS. Too Funny...........
 
londonfog said:
ANY poll can be tilted by the questions asked. I did explain one reason why AHCA would benefit tax payers and drive cost down in the ER..you choose to ignore it. It's still your turn

Recap

You- I don't want to be forced to pay for something
Me- You are already being forced to pay for something. At least make that cost lower for you and family.
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No you didn't London. You made a statement that the ER abuse will be magically stopped but failed to explain how or why. 6k deductible, you can't get around that. You gave one example of an OPINION that you have that has no basis in reality.

Questions asked, are you satisfied with your present health insurance/care for the first, do you support O'care for the second. You asked for links, I provided them and can keep giving more that say the same if you have that need.

FFS man, even your recaps are misguided untruths. While it's true I don't want to be forced to pay for something, I'm not even coming close to arguing from that angle. I'm arguing from the angle that you have no idea what O'care actually is or does. For proof I submit "well now people won't abuse the ER because of O'care". The right has their "the economy will collapse because of O'care" opinion too but that doesn't make it true.
 
londonfog said:
Do you choose to pay car insurance? even if you have never been in an accident your whole life.
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Can I buy a plan that only covers liability or do I have to buy roadside service and rental coverage too? Do I have to pay for auto insurance if I choose to ride public transportation?
 
beenthere said:
If you are so annoyed by the posts, simple, ignore them.
And if you personally think there are bigger things to worry about, get to worrying about them and let me decided what I deem bigger!

BTW, is it against forum rules to spam threads with countless unrelated posts of pictures?
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It's not considered spam if he isn't linking it to another site or promoting a product
 
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