MEN: If You Work A 40-Hour Work Week..

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ChesusRice

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one of my previous jobs was contracting canadian mechanics to repair cheap chinese dirtbikes that our company sold at canadian tire.

there are plenty of mechanics who will work for $40 an hour.
Harley mechanics at dealerships charge 95 an hour. That is why I do all repairs and maintenance myself.
 

ginwilly

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Harley mechanics at dealerships charge 95 an hour. That is why I do all repairs and maintenance myself.
I do the maintenance on my road king mostly myself but I have an 85 goldwing that other than plugs and oil changes I can't stand working on. The Honda dealership is about the only place around here that will even touch it and it's 90 an hour.

It's not the mechanic charging that but I get what you mean. I was floored by the cost of tires. They cost as much for a 10k tires as my dodge ram tires. Motorcycle repair is crazy expensive.
 

ginwilly

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Oh, and to answer Schuy's question...

I would expect to pay for all of that even if I wasn't working. I love me some free stuff but don't expect it.
 

nitro harley

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Harley mechanics at dealerships charge 95 an hour. That is why I do all repairs and maintenance myself.
I have never been to a dealership except to get parts..Back in 1992 I went to a harley trade school for a year and learned about all the new stuff at the time..I just work on my own bikes and help a friend every now and then..I have done a lot of drag racing and sometimes I would rebuild a motor in just a few hours and be ready for the next round of racing..

I am building a new race bike right now, another old school pan/shovel 105 ci that will run on methanol with a little 20% splash of nitro..My goal is to get it to run under 9 seconds...
WE will find out this summer how it runs...
 

Wilksey

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I think anyone who works 40 hours a week should be able to expect those things,
You do realize that there are a lot of job opportunities available that wouldn't exist if employers were forced to provide all that other shit along with an hourly wage, right?

An opportunity to earn is always better than a lack of opportunity to earn.
 

Wavels

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Entry level employment has traditionally been the first rung on the opportunity ladder to achievement and life style sustainment as one climbs to fulfill their goals in life.

It appears that many of you want to either remove the rungs on the ladder of life, or simply install escalators for neophytes.
 

see4

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I am curious to know where we disagree.
1) It is dishonest to conflate healthcare with insurance.
This is true.

2) No. If you work 40 hours a week at a job that doesn't pay enough to get those four basics at local market prices, one is under a simple compulsion to do one or both of two things:
a) move
b) earn privilege to a higher-paying position.
Yes, I do think working 40+ hours a week, should entitle a person to be paid enough to live without having to worry about if the electricity may get cut off one month worry if his/her family will have enough to eat that week. I think people who work hard, work long hours, deserve a fair means of living comfortably.

But here is the kicker. Comfortable is subjective. So I suppose we should create a baseline from which we can agree. I say comfortable for the average person is being able to eat breakfast, lunch and dinner every day without worrying about their next meal, and it means not worrying about having a mobile phone, at least basic cable and internet, electricity, hot water, heat/ac, and a form of transportation, all with the ability to save a few dollars at the end of each pay period.

Now, does this mean I think a Wal-Mart employee in Greenwich, CT should earn $150,000+ a year? No, not at all. This goes back to your point, people deserve a fair wage, but if you live in an area where the average wage is executive salary, a Wal-Mart employee really has no business being there.


I reject the idea that working 40 hours automatically entitles one to a comfortable lifestyle. Especially in a labor-saturated marketplace, there isn't enough to go around. It's musical chairs, and the plums should go to those who show the combination of ability and ambition to secure them. A welfare-centric culture subverts this by sweeping the real goad of personal financial failure under the rug. My opinion.
I agree that right now there "isn't enough to go around". But I argue, there could be. There is no reason why we can't employee the country. We have the means, the raw materials and a global presence that far exceeds any other country with the exception of China.

I think your argument that this is all to blame on a welfare-centric culture is disingenuous and faulty in premise. I do not equate welfare with personal financial success or failure. I equate it to providing a means of living when no other opportunities are provided. Yes, I get that there are those who take advantage of the system, but that is true with any system. Financial success is an idea that happens while and after one has become "comfortable".

brb.. have a meeting.
 

see4

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9-10 hour days, if I'm lucky. usually 11, sometimes 12.

i miss my days at IBM. oh well, life as a business owner...
 

Thriceeee

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Goodmorning!
Definitely not angry in any way! Gonna take a LOT more than that guys haha. There's a reason why I picked this forum over the others! :razz:
Buck I know how to change a thermostat. I've fabricated custom swirl pots and thermo housings for a few race engines. I actually don't charge much at all for my freelance work.. you pay for the parts/special tools and I charge a quarter what a shop here charges.
I also get the parts @ shop price so like half or less of usual cost.
Keeps me busy on my off-time and I get just as much side $ as my shop pays me, sometimes more. Shops here will charge from 95-125 an hour depending on types of vehicles of course.
They barely get by with $95/hr on off season though... Many shut down trying to be competitive when they suddenly cant pay their workers wages.

Back on this! What was the full point of this thread exactly?
What were you trying to pull from our outcome of answers?
How spoiled we may be as workers? hehe
 

BrewsNBuds

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Probably.

Liberals expect everything on this list, for 40 hours of "activity" which may or may not be work. Think tank, community action office, faculty lounge talking about how perfect Obama is type-of-work. That's hard work 40 hours a week and they [deserve, demand, expect] that someone else should provide for these things.

Progressives are so compassionate, they'll give you the shirt right off that other guy's back.
 

see4

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No, I do not deserve them, I provide them. Do you not understand the difference?
I see what we are debating here.

I work, therefore I receive food, shelter and clothing.
I work and deserve to receive food, shelter and clothing.
I receive food, shelter and clothing because I work.

We may be arguing semantics?
 
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