Is there any saving them?

regray0

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i started my first grow ever and these are my 5-week old seedlings that aren't doing good at all. they're kept under (5) 26w cfl bulbs 24/7 right now. i did a pH test and my tap water/miracle grow combo registered at 8.0 so i switched to distilled water with a pH of 6. i'm not sure if there's anything else i can do short of starting over. also i live in a small town in which the only supply sources are Walmart, Kmart, Lowe's and Home Depot. any feed back i s greatly appreciated.
 

chuck estevez

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just a few things,

better soil
don't use distilled water
those are to young for big doses of nutrients.
everything needs dark time, give them 4 hrs of darkness
drain holes in cups
 

greenlikemoney

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You can find enough ingredients at those places to make a decent soil ( compost, perlite, garden soil, blood meal, bone meal ), you can get better lights at those places ( check Walmart online, they will ship direct to your local store ) and you need bigger pots and less nutrients. Those plants aren't dead by a long shot, you still have time to save the girls !!!!!!
 

JohnDee

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Reg,
Is the MG soil the nute-added soil or the MG organic? Clearly they are showing stunted growth and tip nrcrosis so I think it's fair to say...the soil has too many nutes for a seedling. An extremely common nube mistake. I say trasplant up to larger pots and a different soil mix with no added nutes.

I have mixed feelings about washing bad soil off roots. Seems like it can damage roots so I don't recommend it.
JD
 

ProdigalSun

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I tried to wash the roots off a plant once, it worked, but shocked it really bad. I've killed them doing that more often than not. Learning curve......
 

regray0

New Member
i'm using vigoro organic potting soil now, i transplanted into bigger pots, wet the soil with RO water, purchased a timer and set the time to 20 hours on 4 hours off. hopefully they improve. thanks to all who gave input...it's appreciated
 

JohnDee

Well-Known Member
Hi Reg,
They should recover. Get them on a good wet/dry cycle, enough light and some circulation and they should do great. Even with the burned and dropping leaves...looks like good genetics. Indica leaning. Hope they do well from now on...
JD
 

chuck estevez

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what don't you like about distilled water?
nutrients are broken down into ions, positive and negative charges. I can't remember off the top of my head, But I believe distilled has a neg.ion charge.it works against what your trying to do. And you have to add cal/mag to it to prevent a cal/mag def.
 

Mr John

Active Member
What Chuck says about the calmag. You need to add it distilled/RO water as it gets filtered out. Never heard about the neg ion thing, will do do reading up and learn myself about it.
 

Karma0413

Member
distilled also isn't good to drink , so it probably isn't good for plants either,http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm
Not a very good link for proving your point. I read the article and I am also in the medical field. I actually did not know about this. But, it makes sense from a physics standpoint.

so aside from the lack of cal/mg... Which is probably in the soil anyways. What exactly is the problem with distilled?

Ps- I'm only encouraging a healthy debate

medically speaking it's a risk vs benefit issue right? Wouldn't the risk of typical tap water be worse? Also, a high mineral content isn't necessary great for plants right especially when we can utilize that extra space for mineral/element delivery.

would you mind elaborating on the detrimental effect of distilled water please as that article did not give any.
 

chuck estevez

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Not a very good link for proving your point. I read the article and I am also in the medical field. I actually did not know about this. But, it makes sense from a physics standpoint.

so aside from the lack of cal/mg... Which is probably in the soil anyways. What exactly is the problem with distilled?

Ps- I'm only encouraging a healthy debate

medically speaking it's a risk vs benefit issue right? Wouldn't the risk of typical tap water be worse? Also, a high mineral content isn't necessary great for plants right especially when we can utilize that extra space for mineral/element delivery.

would you mind elaborating on the detrimental effect of distilled water please as that article did not give any.
I am no expert on water by any means. But I have seen Numerous posts of people with cal/mag def. from using distilled water. I also know how nutrients are broken down into ions. Ions are positive and negative charged atoms. Adding something that may mess/change that is not something I do. But, you go ahead and use it. i only recommended he Not use it to prevent further problems.
 

Merlin34

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The problem with distilled water is that it has nothing. No minerals at all. So you have to ensure you add everything. If you feed a house plant straight distilled water it will eventually die. Same for a ganja plant...
 
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