Big Trees
Well-Known Member
What do you think of this?
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/12/marijuana_strains_are_fake_study.php
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/12/marijuana_strains_are_fake_study.php
All Strains Are Fake
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tip top toker
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I'd say he has never extensively smoked weed.
Just as a made up example!e(they may have done studies, I don't know) but alcohol is supposedly alcohol, yet why does one form, e.g cider, effect someone in such a different manner to say vodka?
Ice done some blind tests so to speak, it was always rather evident which was an indica.
Just as a made up example!e(they may have done studies, I don't know) but alcohol is supposedly alcohol, yet why does one form, e.g cider, effect someone in such a different manner to say vodka?
Ice done some blind tests so to speak, it was always rather evident which was an indica.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
right here you know the dude hasn't a clue as to wtf he's talking about..
... he even disputes the commonly held notion that the two polar types of weed, indica and sativa, produce opposing effects -- specifically that indica is more of a depressant and sativa is more of an upper.
but i think what the dr is mainly talking about is that dispensaries will slap any name on any strain at any time if it's the flavor of the month in order to generate better sales, which i totally agree with..
... he even disputes the commonly held notion that the two polar types of weed, indica and sativa, produce opposing effects -- specifically that indica is more of a depressant and sativa is more of an upper.
but i think what the dr is mainly talking about is that dispensaries will slap any name on any strain at any time if it's the flavor of the month in order to generate better sales, which i totally agree with..
MFB
Active Member
Keep us updated on this one.
Different weed has different highs and effects. Anyone that has smoked more than a joint in their life knows this. So I think this guy is talking out his ass on that one.
But he is right about one thing. People passing weed off as though it was another strain.
Different weed has different highs and effects. Anyone that has smoked more than a joint in their life knows this. So I think this guy is talking out his ass on that one.
But he is right about one thing. People passing weed off as though it was another strain.
tip top toker
Well-Known Member
Which is a well know and accepted notion. Little different to ask I g a dude at a shop what their beat star in for X is and them recommending their cheapest offering. Because that's how business works.... Ask a fishmonger what to use for a stew and they'll tell you monkfish, they will rarely talk about the lesser fillets also perfectly suitable for a stew.
Professor Snook
Member
He makes an interesting point but it seems that he is confusing the 'name game' with real differences that can be measured in the laboratory and felt in the head and body. There is no doubt that many dispensaries are sketchy operations whose sole motive is maximum profit off of naive customers; they'll label nasty, poisonous flowers as some fashionable flavor of the week.
However, that does not mean that there are negligible differences between strains. There is a report coming out and possibly a book of some kind also.
However, that does not mean that there are negligible differences between strains. There is a report coming out and possibly a book of some kind also.
DrOctopus
Member
There are indicas and sativas but all these different names are getting silly. It is a huge marketing ploy if they were smart they would name the strain after their brand instead of some way out stoner shit. I get sick of all these kids talking about oh I got dro and they don't understand dro meaning hydro is a method of growth and aww this is the kush first off not even knowing the strain its irritating Especially when they try to school me on growing I get sick of giving the tutorial to them when they don't even understand half the vocab coming out of my mouth then they run and act educated to their cronies and fuck up all the knowledge I dropped on them
AlGore
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Interesting... They actually touch on similar points I think in 2nd half of this panel from the Seattle Cup:
http://youtu.be/vHckezsF7wI
http://youtu.be/4cAhZXZRQ1Y
http://youtu.be/vHckezsF7wI
http://youtu.be/4cAhZXZRQ1Y
AllDayToker
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If you think all the different kinds and names of wine are necessary. It's just the black market that gives us these ridiculous names. Wines that make a mark are noticed, just like weed, but we never know if it's the real deal or the first one ever, because we don't track like wine companies HAVE to and have for years. There are not a lot of people that document that detailed with cannabis. We can say it all started from sativa and indica like we can with wine and red or white grapes...
True strains have histories and each has it's own taste and smell, besides the different kind of high.
True strains have histories and each has it's own taste and smell, besides the different kind of high.
Big Trees
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I just don't approve of the vague statement that there is no difference between strains. You can make a venn diagram of any two strains and you will see similarities, but there going to be many differences as well. But it doesn't help that majority of smokers don't have the least bit of a clue about what they're really smoking. Knowledge is power and i'll have to see the full report when it comes out to make a valid analysis.
This is the beginning of science taking over. Unless you have a Ph.D. in Chemistry, or closely related field, you do not have a vote. So anyone with an ACTUAL ticket to this conversation care to weigh in because I know we have some out there.
But one is not me.
But one is not me.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Damn, I didn't think the day would ever arrive that I disagreed with c2g, but in this instance I have to say I do..
So, in your logic, are you saying that unless I have a theology degree, I can't get into a debate about religion?
No I'm saying when the botany books are written not one article by you will be in there unless you have a Ph.D. in botany. We are being side-lined.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Oh, OK.. mistook what.you had originally said.. I now retract my statement about disagreeing with you..
Should have known better.. xoxoxo..
You are such a sweetie ;D You don't have to worry about disagreeing with me. I am certain there are many fine points we'd split a hair over and you know what? I'm not bothered in the least I still like you even when you and I may not agreeOh, OK.. mistook what.you had originally said.. I now retract my statement about disagreeing with you..
Should have known better.. xoxoxo..
Life is to short not to be happy.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Oh God.
I don't think chemistry has all that much to offer to the discussion. Not until the research gates are opened and we can properly assign effects profiles to cannabinoid-ratio profiles. And then the chemists are gonna have to play nice with the clinicians, who are the necessary human/geek interface buffer types.
I had two lool moments reading the article.
One was "turpenes". ~elitist giggle~
The other was inspecting "Jack Herer", perhaps the queen mother of hybrid strains. A little of everything is in there, and the chance that pretty much every profile from hard Haze to hard Afghani can come from a pollen-chucked sample of Jack Herer is nonzero. Also, whose Jack Herer? C99 was a "stabilized" strain offered by Bros. Grimm back around the turn of the millennium and was both admirably consistent and admirably asskicking in both categories: growing and smoking traits. Now C99 has been bred into a constellation of breeds that make me think of dog breeds, different trait sets being offered by different sources.
I'd trust this guy's analysis better if he compared landraces at the two ends of the varietal spectrum. Remember boy&girls: having an advanced chemistry degree does not certify that the practitioner either is honestly representing the profession ... or competently representing knowledge outside that profession.
Mind you ... some do. But often the sheer ego-swelling side effects of getting that Ph.D. lead to unwarranted opinions about related but not contained fields of sciences. Or complete wingnut opinions about sociopoliticoanthropologic issues. ~blush~ Or so I have been told ...
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Ask for a real scientist, and poof one appears.. I was waiting for cannbineer or mreduck to show their fangs and or feathers..