does speed drying fuck up your buds?

[NewGrowth]

Very harsh smoke from fast dried buds and they often get over dry. If you are hard up then just speed dry a small portion of your buds to smoke while the others slow dry. The chlorophyll needs time to break down. Patience is the best thing you can add to a grow especially at the end.

 

[panhead]

why not....

No special reason other than ive never been real impressed with High Times,back in the day before there was internet i read the mag,we all did because it was the only source for info & gear,after the internet the info in high times lost its value to me.

Pluss there is better info to be had right here on RIU

 

[pppfemguy]

No special reason other than ive never been real impressed with High Times,back in the day before there was internet i read the mag,we all did because it was the only source for info & gear,after the internet the info in high times lost its value to me.

Pluss there is better info to be had right here on RIU

yea RIU is the shit ive learned so much from the site and from people like email468....loadblunts....al fuct......i could go on and on very good grade A site i hope it never closes

 

[smoove]

Im not trying to argue any point but what you just posted is pretty much a blanket statement without giving us the other methods of drying, & or equipment you used in order to come to this conclusion.

How funny, I actually typed all this info out in my original post and decided to delete it b4 I posted. Shoulda stuck with my guns.

Here is my most recent harvest and how it was dried and cured: (still curing)

Drying: takes place in the same cab the plant is grown in. The cab has active ventilation with the fan setting on low.

Temp: 71-76
Humidity: 40-45%

- One 4" fan is placed in the middle of the cab aiming upward, no direct airflow onto the haning buds - running 24 hours
- One cool mist humidifier (0% humidity where I live) running full tilt 24 hours because of the active ventilation.

Day 1: Plant is chopped and hung whole and untrimmed upside down for 48 hours in total darkness.

Day 3: Plant gets first trim - All fan leaves and and large bud leaves are trimmed then plant in hung back up in the cab for up to 6-8 days. At the end of this period the stems are very hard but don't quite snap, the edges of the bud are dry and slightly brittle but the center of the bud is soft and sticky.

Day 8-10: Plant gets final trim - I meticulously trim all the leaves I can stand to trim in a single sitting (4-5 hours) and the buds go into air-tight glass mason jars for curing.

Curing: I burp the Jars like every third day (more to check the smell than to release any excess moisture) for a couple weeks then I don't mess them and just let them do their thing. I store the jars in a dark cupboard.

I harvested a few tops 2 days before I harvested the whole plant. Those tops were trimmed and hung in a dark room closet on some hangers and were bone dry in just under 4 days; Like I mentioned, I live in a very arid, hyper-dry climate. This bud was sampled on day 4,5,6 of the dry then eventually jarred with the rest. Even after being in the same jar as the rest of the bud for a couple weeks now... it still doesn't have quite the same aroma or smoke as smooth.

This could very easily be attributed to the conditions of my particular climate, or to the specific strain I'm growing, I'm not really sure. Either way, I'm sold on slow controlled drying followed by atleast a 4 week cure, and I believe it does in fact bring out nuances otherwise unnoticeable. But of course... to each his own.

 

[edro]

If you just gotta have it...but slow and easy is by far the better way..

edro

 

[Rsixxer]

+ rep Smoove, great post!

 

[Lord Dangly Bits]

I am with smoove. One difference is I do not pack my jars so tight.. but to each his own.

Spped drying is for beginners.

 

[pppfemguy]

does anyone know if them vaporizers work?

 

[panhead]

I am with smoove. One difference is I do not pack my jars so tight.. but to each his own.

Spped drying is for beginners.

It appears as if most here are simply repeating what they've read & accepted as fact, not tried in person,i also find it odd that you'd challenge the bud dryer method & refuse to show us the bud dryer that failed you & left you with such "skanky buds".

A properly made bud dryer is hardly for beginners,there is a world of difference between using hair dryers & microwave ovens,or even putting your weed in a paper bag then letting it sit over the grow light, there is no comparison between those methods & a well thought out bud dryer.

If you want to let your buds dry & cure for a month thats cool too but dont try to make others look foolish ,over a drying method many here obviously have no experience using,repeating info as fact without backing up your stance with personal experience is bad information & not in the least helpfull.

So if you want to claim "bullshit" then lets get them pics up of your bud dryer & try to find out why it failed you so badly.

 

[pppfemguy]

It appears as if most here are simply repeating what they've read & accepted as fact, not tried in person,i also fing it odd that you'd challenge the bud dryer method & refuse to show us the bud dryer that failed you & left you with such "skanky buds".

A properly made bud dyrer is hardly for beginners,there is a world of difference between using hair dryers & microwave ovens compared to a bud dryer.

If you want to let your buds dry & cure for a month thats cool too but dont try to make others look foolish ,over a drying method many here obviously have no experience using,repeating info as fact without backing up your stance with personal experience is bad information & not in the least helpfull.

So if you want to claim bullshit then lets get them pics up of your bud dryer & try to find out why it failed you so badly.

you tell em dude........and hey i remember u saying something about a diy bud dryer in the grow faq sorry dude i had a hard time finding it

 

[blinkykush]

Damn A Month Added To The Process After Reading This Thread,brutal. I Never Knew It Took 3-4 Weeks If Done Right. I Thought A Week, But Then Again If Your Gonna Put In All The Time And Effort To Get To A Harvesy Whats A Few More Weeks To Get The Best End Result Really.

 

[pppfemguy]

Damn A Month Added To The Process After Reading This Thread,brutal. I Never Knew It Took 3-4 Weeks If Done Right. I Thought A Week, But Then Again If Your Gonna Put In All The Time And Effort To Get To A Harvesy Whats A Few More Weeks To Get The Best End Result Really.

true........juss some people dont have patience good thing for me i have lots of them lol

 

[panhead]

you tell em dude........and hey i remember u saying something about a diy bud dryer in the grow faq sorry dude i had a hard time finding it

I can show you mine if you'd like but in all fairness it was not my idea,i stole the idea from member Al B Fuct who was a mod over at Overgrow & is thankfully here now helping us,his design is a bit complicated for most as it was for me so i modified it with his approval & did a tutorial about it,its under BUD DRYER,Al's design is listed in the Grow Faq on this site in the DIY section in this link.

GROWFAQ

If this design of Al's is too complicated let me know,ive since been taken to school by Al where he rightly pointed out several design flaws with my dryer,ive modified my dryer to correct the problems with it so at this point it does not resemble what i posted in my tutorial,i need to take new pics & rewrite the building instructions of my dryer before i reccomend my version of the dryer,which i will be doing as time allows.

 

[dankiestdank]

Here's the link to that drier... seems to be great from what the thread has taught me ... Bud dryer - manicured to smoke in 3 days

 

[pppfemguy]

thanks panhead im gonna def. need a dryer similar to that one cuz the whole mason jars drying and curing way seems like going way outta ur way to get ur bud dry

 

[doctorD]

I have the dryer from bc northern lights and it works great. I can have 6-10oz dry in about a week. I trim the bud at harvest but keep most of the stem intact. the added moisture from them stem slows the dry some so thats good. I also unplug the dryer for a day after the stems start to snap, then turn it on for one more day. after that I trim the buds from the stem and put it in jars. Ill open them every day till they are the same for a few days then I put it away till I get around to that jar. I have enough so that it can sit for at least 3wks till i start on the first jar and everyone around just loves the bud I grow and is always bugging me to find out who I get it from lol. shhhhh.

 

[smoove]

thanks panhead im gonna def. need a dryer similar to that one cuz the whole mason jars drying and curing way seems like going way outta ur way to get ur bud dry

Curing... is not drying. The point of curing is not to get your buds dry, it's to further breakdown cellular material, resulting is a smoother smoke and more unique bouquet. It's more of a connaisseur practice where your goal is to extract the finer nuances from your herb. Not everyone has the time or patience to practice curing, and others don't really care or have given up because they never achieved any favorable results from their attempts at curing. I was almost one of those people cuz the first time I cured a harvest it did nothing for the smell or smoke. In fact it smelled like pine needles and hay when I was done. I thought for sure it could just be a bogus practice, promoted by a few popular growers and blindly regurgitated as gospel by the growing community.

The next harvest I decided to give it another shot... I thought maybe I could tweak the process to suit my climate, and this time around it was better. This time the herb had a nice smell, typical dank. Smoked smoother than the buds I quick dried as samples when I harvested. Now I had results and a process I could fine tune, which I was able to do with my most recent harvest.

Three weeks into the cure of my current harvest and there is a very noticeable difference with this bud. Where the smell at harvest was like dank kind bud with hints of citrus, it's now sweet and skunky with tones of dark chocolate and earthy spice. The quick dried smoke (3 day dry) at harvest tasted like kind bud but a little bitter from the skunky flavor and kind of pinched my lungs at the peak of a big bong rip. Now after curing... the best description I can give is... it's just smooth. It goes in very light but is still robust with an earthy flavor, the smoke doesn't pinch my lungs now but feels more like it's expanding and putting pressure on my lungs. Then the exhale is soft and sweet tasting. I can't really determine any real change in the high though, the stone seems about the same to me... but overall it's just much more pleasant to smoke. I have a couple close friends who are interested in starting their own home-grows and I invited them over throughout the grow to basically teach them everything I could about every stage of growing. They had already sampled some nugs a few days after the harvest and were in love with the stuff, then over this last weekend they sampled the herb that has been curing... needless to say they were shocked with how different it smoked and for some reason very excited over it.

I personally have nothing against quick drying, and I'll probably do it with a portion of every harvest. (gotta smoke something while the rest is curing) I understand there are limitations for some commercial growers that don't allow for this kind of curing process. But in my humble opinion, I believe this is one of the best methods for a home grower (connaisseur) to try and perfect if they're looking to enhance the overall quality and complexity of their smoke.

My 2cents.

 

[Lord Dangly Bits]

I agree totally with Smoove. To me quick drying buds is like tradeing a bottle of very fine wine for mad dog 20/20 gut rot. There is no way you are going to quick dry buds in 3 days and get the same taste you do when correctly cured. Any of you can post other people threads and tell me about who said what. But i will never in a million years believe any of you who say that quick drying can be done with the same or even close results. And once again, I will say it,, anyone who gets buds quick died the same quality as if correctly cured must have started with SHIT BUDS.

When you are teaching an apprentice to learn a new skill, you NEVER teach him the short cuts!!!! You always teach him the correct way to do his Job, then once he has mastered that you teach him a few of the short cuts. If I had an Apprentice who I was teaching to grow buds, I would NEVER teach him or tell him how to quick dry buds.
Quick dried buds=

I have to admit though, I do quick dry about a gram of buds from some crops just to give it a try.

So for all you new growers out there. You want great, sticky, tastey buds. Then learn to cure them correctly. If you want your buds quick and can not wait, and do not mind that harsh taste and green Chlorifiel taste, then by all means Stick those buds inside a speed drier.

This is just my opinion. If you do not go along with my opinion, then I have another opnion about you..... hahahahahaha Just kidding.

 

[panhead]

Lordbits,how can you condem something you have not tried as being bad ,i will never in a million years understand the reasoning behind such close mindedness,to top it off you are flat out insulting other members weed that you have no personal knowledge over,especially a member who has more knowledge & has been more helpfull to the membership here than any other 10 of us members,all over a method you have not tried.

So far all im seeing is repeated rehetoric & continuing insults & a severe lack of information concerning the method you so adamately condem as being inferior & producing shit buds.

This is not the way you teach people,evidence needs to be presented if your going to condem something as being bad,just because "you believe" something does not make it truth or relevant to the topic.

 

[pppfemguy]

uhh ohh dudes