I'm just wondering if you were hoping someone was going to tell you how to extract hash into superhash!!!! lol, but anyways thanks IGTHY for the link... its funny though I was laughing the whole time thinking about how this guy who created that site has never heard of a double boiler!!! and here he is telling people to balance a pot with boiling water and a measuring cup/mug overtop of it, and balance a thermometer too?!?! AND keep the temp right at 160-165? man... it would be MUCH easier just buying a double boiler and using a thermometer... but maybe i'm just lazy