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If you were to use under/inter-canopy lighting instead of trying to get everything in there from the top, growing such tall plants will be much easier.

DIYleduk or check out Invisible Sun

Nice pictures. I'm happy that the temperatures are down here so I can use 315 again. The most beautiful artificial light in the world, efficiency be damned. I wish I could hang 10 watt CMH lamps in my house.

Always love your pictures of one of the most inspiring setups in the world. Elite growing

Why are you adding red to the 4000K if you find it gives the best results (assuming that adding red light will decrease the color temperature)? Just curious. if you have some more comments on the differences we all would be interested I think.

GJ Hybridway2 for seeing through, nice grow. One grow is just an anecdote, but HLG wins by an absolute landslide in PR and respectability area. Interesting thread. Of course people don't want lights from individuals who act so scummy. That aside, in this thread you find a lot of pent-up anger...

Hate to be like this but why even ask? You cannot do the calculations yourself? If you have the money you get the new shit, if you don't have the money get the old shit... it's so simple... If the new thing does 200lpw and the old thing does 175lpw, how much better does that make it? Is the...

Heatsinks for those strips are not available everywhere in the world at a good price.. the bridgelux are

This world is not my home... I'm going up yonder where there is no electricity. After I touch this board with my hands.

Do you have a link for these @piratebug? I still can't find them.

Plenty of light sellers should take note .. actually they shouldn't, let them eat dust. Very nice presentation here, great looking setup. Nice tilt feature. and a good price. :clap:

Time to start coming up with ways to release CO2 from these fixtures. It's the next logical step to increase performance. Why not utilize something which is hanging over the top of the plants 24/7 anyway.

I feel retarded. Obviously this is all the information I should need to find them, but I can't find them. Got a link? I like the look of those things. Terrific post btw... really helpful to those who would not know how to piece something together for 3x3

SJ = Sells Junk. The list of useless failing equipment they sell recently is extensive, now this can be added to it. If you read the reviews of their monkey fan, an otherwise interesting product, you will weep. It might be cheaper to just accept bud rot and mildew than to buy their failing fans.

vertical hanging filter and room for a standing/oscillating fan below it Lol.

Yep...... :wall: 560mm strips in the middle, 3 or 4x cxm-22 gen4 on each side angled inward 30 degrees Or, 560mm x2, 120mm (or more, realistically) overlap, so you can enjoy hotspot like in the old days: 8-) Or how about a crazy strip vortex with a cob in the middle, the Lamp of the rising...

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GJ, good on you OP for making an effort to do a test for all to see. I personally think a lux, or, ideally, quantum meter will suffice due to the similarity of the lights, but it will still be interesting to see the results. We can assume that it will be clones you are growing?

Your comebacks and insults are reaching the standards of indian scammers. Actually they already had when you decided to insult somebody's kids. give up Joe, the gig is almost up. I am enjoying the final convulsions. You and Scameron are lucky that the compromised ICrag is deleting info about...

Lol you sound like the villain of a scifi trilogy who is slowly losing his grip on reality due to the mental gymnastics required for his shilling. Us peasants can't even fathom this light's power!