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I've been trying to find just one reason not to pull the trigger on the four Optic Vero 200W units, but nothing dealbreaking comes up to change my mind. Looks like these will be my starter LEDs :bigjoint: Anyone who wishes to dissuade me from this decision (and yes I have considered DIY but...

The CXB200 is a BEAST! Thanks for sharing Jimmy! That looks like a bitch to ship - but it also looks like no expense has been spared though. Drooling over lights. What a weirdo I am. :bigjoint:

Yeah, that paypal financing option is really helping me spend more on the Optic lights than what I initially planned on. I'm the kind of guy who hates spending a lot even when I have the cash - but turn it into an installment deal with zero interest and watch the money slip through my fingers...

Yeah, coverage is definitely an issue with the Optic lights from what I've read and heard. I'm having trouble figuring out which lights from their product line that'll cover a 4x4' nicely. I could: Get a 400W and deal with the shortage in coverage using DIY COBs (which will come at a much later...

Wow, I looked over at Cooliance's Coolstrate line and I must say, those are really good choices for cooling. That's actually good to hear - they're going for real-world results first before selling it to consumers. I hope I'll have a chance to purchase those fantastic looking lights!

Ok let me take that all back - opticgrowlights.com is actually live. Now if only Jimmy's light's site goes up... :bigjoint:

Does the old 4000K Vero 360W share the same dimensions as the new Vero 400W? I have to ask Optic directly about that. I haven't found anything that states nor compares any of the three lights actual sizes. Optic lighting recommends the Vero 400W for a 48"x44" space - does that sound realistic...

I guess you could say we're thinking along the same lines here. Was this your first indoor light also? It seems like my retail light will also become frankenstein-ed (or at least be helped by a few of my own) further down the road to promote better plant growth. And denser buds definitely.

Nice, I'm gathering a lot of real-world tips and experiences here. I'm a bit of a pragmatist myself so this is good. Very good. AS MUCH as I'd love to get my money's worth and build a DIY light, I'm being drawn towards consumerism and just wanna worry about growing. I would love to engulf...

Just found out Optic Lighting is shipping to my country (at least according to their eBay page) through the eBay Global Shipping Program. Stoked. Let's see if the costs surmount the impending DIY sweat. :bigjoint:

As a follow-up question: What is the general consensus for the amount of light needed for veg in terms of # of cobs/area? I've come up with a possible 4x2 or 3x3 3000K CXB3590 configuration for an initial mixed-veg/flower 4'x4' tent, but with the future plans of creating a dedicated veg tent in...

Lol @Humanrob - this is EXACTLY what I was afraid of. I mean, I can be anal with measurements and stuff but sometimes the skills just aren't as well-honed as a veteran's. I was considering putting the ideas on paper and going to a machine shop for them to execute, but that would certainly cost...

Thanks for the infos guys. I'll shoot Jerry an email first thing Monday. Since I don't have any drills or tapping tools, I was thinking of using Arctic Silver Thermal Adhesive to install the cobs on the heatsinks. It's got a temp range of -40C to >150C. I'm not sure how hot these cobs get but...

I have the same concerns with heat and electricity costs. I have a few local sources of CMH from OSRAM (up to 250W) and Philips (their popular 315W) but they'll literally bake the plants. Power rates border on extortion. 16x3590? That's a lot for your space! Your plants will surely love it...

Great stuff Will, I appreciate the help. $40 is manageable compared to the shipping and duties I was facing with a complete light - hearing this is also a morale booster. I was thinking of making a 9-cob light in a square layout to fit a 4x4 tent. I really wanted to make it all out of aluminum...

If you also read the video's comments one guy says something actually intelligent: you get what you pay for. Most Chinese companies produce good stuff when funded properly. What others don't know is how bad the LIES are with the lower end grow light market. I'm glad I read up before I got burnt...

Thanks for the input. I was hoping for some instant gratification and just focus on growing with the right equipment, but since that's not possible my botanical adventures will have to wait. I've actually been lurking around RIU for quite some time, and most of the popular threads have been...

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Okay I do realize this may have been brought up before, but (for now) this isn't about how to make a DIY light, but just to check if I *CAN* actually go ahead and build one. You know, before I go out and waste my money just to create a 400W fire hazard. I can build PCs and learn new tech pretty...

Very interesting. He also made a follow-up that goes more in-depth with junk Chinese LEDs, great for those unfamiliar with why they emit A LOT of heat and have poor efficiency: