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  1. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    Sorry bout your sis as this is actually a crime against humanity, to deprives us of our birth-right which is to have full access and will of our natural resources. How the hell can u regulate something u didn't create as this is playing god. I use it to keep my blood pressure low and deal with...
  2. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    You're on the right track, sir. Nothing like the sun as this is why A51 wnt all 3700k warm whites which is closer to sunlight, which is around 5800k. The 3700k peaks more in the orange, red bands. Nothing like those outdoor trees. It's nice to know that we can do this more openly these days...
  3. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    Yes, you are right. I'm not doubting the 3k will help with the stretching, because it also has blue/green just not as much as the 6k cool-whites. I'm currently running all 3700k and it does a very good job vegging with bout 25% stretch over my 6k spec. I'm just recommending the 6k to improve...
  4. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    I didn't see any disclaimer on their site recommending these cute little toy lights are only suited for Chia pets and small plants. So what happens if a customer wants to grow these 4-5ft indoor trees? I don't think they're gonna discourage the potential customer to buy another brand since...
  5. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    Good, I think you should be happy with it as long as u have enough wattage according to your grow area. I'm not anti brand-name as long as the value-added justifies it's brand-name price.
  6. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    Well, bud, you shouldn't have come at me like that and then accuse me of the one not knowing what I'm talking bout, sir. Like I said, monkey's been around and dropped a few bananas for some of those snake oil that tasted like crap so I'm just here trying to help the new people hopefully avoid...
  7. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    How many of these Do you think we need for a 4' x 4' or 5' x 5' space. Sorry I missed this. I recommend 4 of these for up to a 5x5. Little on the aggressive side but it will definitely to the job properly especially how u like sativas, sir.
  8. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    The 3000k warm-whites you're using actually peaks in the yellow/red similar to the HPS which will have more stretch then the 6000k cool-whites which peaks in the blue/green better for vegging. The 6000k CW is similar to the MH spec. which is better for vegging because it promotes short...
  9. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    I forgot to attach this par spec. for the mentioned 45 x3w. As u can see at 24", there's only 82umoles left. Don't know bout u but 82 is approx. 1/6 of the recommended 500-600unmoles needed for healthy bud production. Like I said, I see no special design of this panel that will allow it...
  10. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    Jesus, I've been playing with these things for the same amount of time doing the same canna-specific R&D, and he's still with the reds I see. If anyone who has read my posts, I always SPECIFICALLY state only actual drawn wattage, sir. I was once a sucker on that also. If I wanted to do a...
  11. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    I forgot. By all means omit Hans from the list because at $350 for 65w and no fans is a recipe for disappointment. That power will grow your pet Chia pretty well but will fail bad with our girls. You can have at least 440w with the previously mentioned set-up.
  12. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    A very careful yes. Yes some of the ebay seller are legit products such as these panels but you're better off with alibaba/alibaba express since it will have most of the factories listed there. There's some pretty shady seller on ebay. Regarding the Chinese led's, almost all leds are made in...
  13. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    It might be coincidental but still a good idea for A51 to gradually shifted from using a red spec. starting out, progressing to a more white dominated spec., and finally going 100% warm white for this year's current model. As I said, Apache nailed it therefore; has never had to change the...
  14. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    Thanks. You make it all worthwhile and enjoyable, sir.
  15. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    Thanks, hope it helps. I applaud your decision regarding A51, though I feel there's more cost-effective alternatives. But hey, nothing wrong with contributing to the cash flow of our much needed economy.
  16. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    Hope it'll help everyone get a little honest insight instead of the bs sales pitch and biased recommendation from the worst possible source... Your salesman and his snake oils. Smart choice as it will save u a lotta time, resources, and burn scars from touching those damn minisuns. It's also...
  17. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    Another important factor one must consider is each type of growing discipline and number of panel(s) will be used for the grow. The reason for this is a high density, relatively small-sized SOG/Scrog type will be better serve with a more broad angle lens vs. say a indoor tree type, which would...
  18. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    The same can't be said if the spec. was on but not enough intensity to generate enough intensity will usually result in low qualtity and yield. Had to screw that last sentence up. lol. I meant the same can't be said if the spec. was on but not enough power was avail. to generate the...
  19. monkeychief

    Lighting questions.. Considering LED over hps/mh combo

    I stand humbly corrected. Sorry was in a hurry so I just started to type down some thoughts and left without even reading it. Just tried and couldn't even understand it myself. I join these threads to entertain myself and share experiences and thought in hopes of helping people new to...
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