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i would get the 180w if i was you. i have had these plants under this 180w for 2 weeks today. i keep it 12" above my plants and they blew up. every day they get biger and biger with this 180w. i cant wait to do a full grow with this 180w.

i did lollipop these girls. i have never looked into the twisting things ill check that out. thanks!

here is a sneek peek of some led bud porn. temps have been at 97F* all day today.. poor poor girls have been threw hell their whole life with these temps.

foot print. the closer the less foot print i get.

i never raised it, i lowerd it from 15 to 12" and it made a big diff to me. u lose more foot print but get better pentration.

see i am in the same boat as you, i can only do 6 plants. the 180w is doing 4 plants right now fine at 12" but i dont think u could do 6 plants at 12" unless you kept5 them real small. as fare as the cfl, ive heard its better and ive heard its not. ive never tried it, si i dont know for sure...

um i couldnt realy tell you if he moved it closer if it would have been better. i would rather stay out of that deal because its none of my Business if ur temps are good i think u can grow some killer bud. look at my grow. 95-100F, sativas. you shouldnt grow sativas indoors because they need...

thanks man

i forgot to say how many plants:leaf: about 4 plants 3ft-4ft or so tall. 2 supper skunk, and 2 shiva skunk. no co2

right now my plants have been in 95-100F* temps their whole life they are in the 6th week of flowering. i know i am losing yeild off of this. my question is how much yeild do u think i will lose? i know its hard to pin point and say but a ruff idea? no co2 eithier.

ya thats going to be bad ass:clap: those stock holes suck, i was planning on drilling more holes with mine when i get it. watch this plant in going to grow very fast with this hydro setup. you should try scrog or lst. get some monster buds. good luck brother.

cant wait to see that WF setup and to watch this grow using it. do u think its worth getting the WF or just making my own? thanks Bro

just wanted to share somthing i tested out with my leds so the one that are using this can try.. i was hagging my 180w 18" and was getting ok results, but 2 days ageo i moved it down to 12" and my plants and getting fatter by the day. i think these 180w should be hung around 12" IMOP.. my supper...

thaks bro:leaf:

hey did you ever get that water farm in bf? just wanted to know what u thought about it, was looking at these for a while now. pics of it would be cool id like to see the grow chamber.

shiva(right side) & super skunk(left side) 6 weeks into flower. 7 days under 180w

not tent, just mylar on some wood walls i made. my room is 8x10. soon it will be cold as hell. but i rater deal with the cold then the heat. its cheaper to heat my room then cool it.

ya i have one but i am a ass hole.. when its 105F* out at night and i am trying to sleep fuck the MJ plants i need that shit more. i used it one time and it coast too much money then it was worth to cool down the room.

what were the temps with the leds? what the diff now?

right, it all depends on alot of things. but 1g per 1watt is good rule. how much do u usaly get per plant.