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For just a little bit more, you can get this piece from Timber Grow Lights: http://timbergrowlights.com/250-watt-cree-cxb3590-square-framework/ That runs FAR more efficient than ANYTHING Platinum LED sells. I have owned a P450 and now run COB lighting (DIY). There is no comparison. My SE...

So I picked up 5 beans. Of the 5, only 3 sprouted (I should have known something was wrong) and 1 died after sprout. Here we are motoring along (clones cut, and thrown away now) going into week 4. Checking on the plants and I notice some bananas on the lower buds! Both of the HGK seem to...

It does, but at the same time, LPW can give you a quick idea. That low of LPW there is no way it will provide enough PAR/W let alone a proper beam for growing.

50-60 lumen per watt from a bulb designed to throw a beam. No thanks

Are your plants healthy? Growing at a good rate (if its a previous strain, did growth slow?)? I personally wouldnt change things unless you have issues.

I am sure everyone has different opinions. I am sure everyone is running different strains at different humidity levels as well as CO2/nutrient levels. That said, figure out what works in your environment. I have found in a drier climate (no humidifiers), cooler temperatures prevail by far...

Yeah, but it wont do 54.24v @ 2.987A. Those are absolute max ranges for both current and voltage. Run it at 54.24v and the current draw will drop. Run it at 2.987A and the voltage will drop.

By all means, throw a multimeter on it and show us. 185h-c1400b is what I am running. Just because you lower the TCase does not mean it provides more power. It has a max power rating (with an acceptable tolerance). If you hit 80c+, you begin to lose efficiency and drop output (and...

Oh, wall draw... Because that is the same as actual power to the cobs. Please show me where someone is delivering those numbers to the actual cob. I am running lower than 50c and my 185s arent putting out those numbers. Maybe at the wall yes, not actual delivered to the cob.

Well aware of that thread and how to figure what driver can run what. My question is, why the transparency on your sales page? On the HLG120-48A page, you say you can drive more than 150w of lighting. Read the page for yourself. Even at "max current", the HLG120 cannot provide those numbers...

Just looking at your site. Curious. From the HLG120H-48A page you have this: rated current: 2.5A Max current: 2.95A can power the following combination of COBs: Citizen: 2 1212@ 54.5W each (109W max), 3@34.9W ea (105W max) , 4@ 25.6W ea (102W max), etc. 2 1818@ 78.5W each (157W max) or 3@...

Under driving does not always = incredible efficiency. Good marketing though. Im sure some clueless people will purchase based on your blanket statement.

You dont need grow pics/results from just Timber lights. Timber utilizes the same tech other companies (and more often than not DIY'ers) do. Their efficiency and components are the same as many documented grows. Check out some of those.

I dont think anyone in here bashed their light. Someone said there are a lot better options for your money which I dont think any of us can deny.

I think the weed finally killed off all your brain cells.

You are just ignorant. Period the end. You already gave us some numbers and at the numbers you are giving your lights are pieces of shit. The efficiency of your panels is atrocious for LED (on part with SE HPS) so where is the benefit of running LED? The biggest benefit to utilizing LED is...

Based on your extremely vague and pathetic response, I am going to assume that your lights about 35% efficient. I am goign with the 35% number as I believe 100% that is realistic (maybe even optimistic). So here you have your P450. 255w of "bloom power"...

This guy cannot even answer some marketing questions about his light. LEGITIMATE questions that SHOULD be listed on his website. Funny. Anyone who purchases a light from here on out should have their head examined. Lights are so shady (pun intended) that the owner wont even disclose (if he...

@Tjohnsoniv1200 Oh good. You are here to answer questions. What diodes do you run (brand/model of each color)? What drivers do you utilize? Is your light UL Listed? What is the efficiency level of your light? How much PPFD does each of your lights put out? By all means, make me a believer and...

Your light is about the same efficiency (at best) as a typical SE Hortilux bulb. You are less efficient than a DE HPS. A 315 CMH will out produce your shitty PLED. Believe me, I owned a P450, they are complete shit. They CANNOT keep up with COBs at all, let alone DE HPS. But continue to...