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Hi GG, On the GPW, (Grams Per Watt) that is exactly what I thought the formula was from my prior readings about measure yield against the energy used by the lights. To date I believe the best I've done is close to .85 g a watt. But I have been trying to perfect my pruning techniques with...

Someone is not reading my later responses and considering the entirety of what has been communicated...:sad: I know I have read what I wrote, cause I wrote it... DankSwag

You are entitled to your opinion, however in my shoes it seems very one sided, that is your prerogative to judge as long as your willing to have the same measure applied to you. Try looking at this objectively as if you had no experience with those who you have deemed knowledgeable, for that is...

Understood, produced is in the eye of the beholder, such as in my comparison by sight, have yet to weigh. But unless I too am suffering some sort of vision issue as SDS hopes he is not, just what I can ascertain between the visual acuity of grows seen under same wattage used per say. DankSwag

Haven't passed it up, perhaps you need to read again where I posted, just harvested, waiting till flowers are dry to provide total weight. If you can wait till this weekend for numbers then you won't have to ask again. Oh Yeah hoping to get the lab to test it. :) DankSwag

SDS, GPW, Grams per Watts used? What do I divide my total weight into to determine how well the lights performed. Could it be the additional red 12 watt bulbs? The only CO2 would be from attending plants during pruning and watering? The water used was city water set out to evaporate of...

Then he should be able to explain my experience and results with the DormGrow lights. DankSwag

SDS, So if this panel isn't all they advertise I give you that could be. However how do you explain the results? If its efficient GPW used then why the exhortation to spend more on an apache or area51? What am I missing I understand efficiency can be rated in different ways but when it comes to...

EraserHead "Not a bad specturm and has IR" DankSwag

I agree with SDS, LED needs to be divided up. There should be stickies that go over basic technology, terms and what defines a quality LED panel. Then the sections should be General, (Novice) Advanced (serious LED heads). DankSwag

I can do that take pics and show them to you, but you need to read the ali baba site again, in there sales description it says 8 band color, no mention IR or Ultraviolet? In the technical specs just list two colors red\blue. Therefore I say they aren't the same or you shouldn't use something...

BTY.... G8LED has formulated and tested the ideal color ratio with 8 bands of the color spectrum including Infrared (IR), Ultraviolet plus 6000K white. G8LED lights come with our stellar Customer Service and 2 Year warranty serviced directly by us. We make customer service our #1 priority. Make...

Read this from top to bottom, LMAO, I am talking about efficiency in LED and you want me to subject my self to inefficiency trying to comb out the treasure among the trash. LMAO. That is why I started this thread to get to the meat of the matter, just the facts please. From what you stated you...

Nice Try... but these don't have the bands of emitters. You are comparing apples to oranges. Also there are not two power units just one, in the Dorm Grow. So what do I have to do buy the cheep ali baba one and do a side by side with the Dorm. Let's see some one with the cheap ali baba panel...

Thanks Supra, Walmart is a little bit of ride for me in traffic, I had traffic unless I am ahead of it all. Anywise stopped by local hardware and electrical stores in town, couldn't find one. I will have to get from Amazon, any make model that is more precise and reliable? :blsmoke: DankSwag

SDS, Something makes me wonder that perhaps you feel you paid too much for your LEDs for what they produce. DankSwag

Thanks MechMike, appreciate your input. By the way DormGrow claims to use 3w BridgeLux, Epistar, Optotech light emitting diodes. DankSwag

Here is a picture of the lights, and yes if they are actually just drawing what the specs say, that is a total of 246watts in a 2x2. So weight numbers will come soon, like I said I mix my own soil nothing but water and TLC was provided with these lights. It is what it is bro, the only thing I...

I started my thread sincerely, I am sincere in that I will not pay 2K for an LED light if there is an equivalently less expensive LED panel out. Equivalent in the context which I used it, means equal in every way but cost. So the text you quoted is out of context and is pretext on which you...

GG, I can't help you with what gets old for you, this is new for me figuring out what LED is the best bang for the buck. Thanks for contributing to my quest. DankSwag