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So comparing the both what would u guys advice https://shop.pro-emit.de/diy-do-it-yourself/diy-m-kits/1/diy-m-kit-100w?number=PE10001.1 http://www.todogrowled.com/gb/led-grow-lights/9-led-grow-light-tgl-star-100.html Its better to have 2x50 or 1x100?

I have a 3x3x5.2, is the Vero29c as good as the Cree cxb3590?Or the difference is minimum?

Who's Robin?

:mrgreen: yeah i can imagine, the thing is that i live in Europe and to buy in timber will stay very expensive to send here(delivery, customs,taxes) so i need to stick with what i can get here..to bad i m not in USandA.

Looks nice but 1 light like this it covers till 80x80?Giving 160g for optimal production, it looks too good to be true..

The 315w LEC is amazing but the thing is i have temperature issues and with that one it will be even worst..nd in terms of COBs what u propose?

It looks great but is way over my budget, i cant stretch that much..but tks either ways

I m not so far, and it looks great that one..how much i can cover with those 200w?

So far the possibilities i have r these: http://www.agrotek.fr/store/en/order/42-430w-le-spot-pack-9376687019118.html http://ledsunshine.ch/store/ledsunshine-sunbeam-600-250w http://ledsunshine.ch/store/cob-full-spectrum/cob-chloroba-400-220w...

I got the idea, u were helpfull..so wich one u use?

Ahahah i feel u, i m still not lazy today:weed: But towards the delivery i contact them and it stays 90$ without duties, customs and taxes so it stays too expensive.. But in a nutshell what the difference between COB light and QB, but if u r too lazy, no worries:mrgreen:

True!Thats why is so hard to chose something, and there s so much misleading info that actually i was thinking that MarsH where really good.. I m already speaking with the timber website to see the price for delivery and important fees, but this QB of 250w u think is enough for 3ftX3ftX5.2ft...

Right, i will try... If not others options in terms of other lights?

Actually i dont wanna a diy, i dont have tools, knowledge or time for it..but i admire who does it. The thing is that i live in Europe it would be hard and expensive to ship something from the US..

around 5.2.ft

After giving it much thought i decided to upgrade my lighting for Led, at first i was just thinking to complement my cfl setup with one of those "shitty" mars panels, but after some research i know is not the way to go. So under 500$ whats the best my money can get for a 3ftX3ft growbox. Is the...

Is the super Helios pro 4 800w worth the money??

I hear u, but probably i want to replace my 200w cfl for the led..i m pretty happy with the 6 cfl dyi but i see a big difference in the light reflecting on the leaves and for 200w it should be better. The grow is doing fine, the ones under the 200w with a bit delay, thatswhy i wanted to make...

ahahah..didnt help me much!