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But the point was to save some on the grow. I bought LED to experiment. You didnt even try. You can save some on your lighting by buying led`s to grow your seedlings up to 6-8 inches, then switch to "proper" lighting. I am not recommending LED`s ,they are fairly useless for a full grow.

why some people think that 250-400 watts are something to worry about. a fuckin computer is 450-600 watts minimum and i don't think anybody shut down his computer because of the fuckin' electric bill. Just a thought :grin: A PC doesnt use all of its power all of the time. While at rest it...

The price of the led is still to high to be considered. We are after all, (at least I speak for myself) just trying to grow ourselves a bit of weed rather than look for a reliable dealer at a reasonable price. Of course we might just as well write to santa. I grew a few plants. Or should I...

Yes they both need ballast. Ballast is the transformer that allows the lamp to work at high voltages and provides the direct current and preffered wattage. Try ebay.