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I forget its called Hydroton more is the US. In the UK the common name is Clay Pebbles, hydroton is used just much less often. Has caused some comical confusion in the past actually. A pal actually thought I was talking about the bad guy from transformers once.

@ChonBoi I hope you dont mind me being blunt, but I think your time would be much better spent restarting this grow. It sounds to me that you were given some bad advice from the start. With hydroponic growing you need to treat the entire grow from the very start like you would a new born baby...

1 thing I always keep in mind about any Hydroponic system... As Above, so Below... You are having problems with your roots. Either a lack or oxygen and they are drowning, or as already advised there is something wrong with the EC & PH balance. I am quite new to RDWC / DWC but far from new to...

I would welcome any advice on how get the same buds for less wattage. Room is 3.4 x 2.4. Currently veg under 630w of CMH for 7-9 weeks, then bloom for the average 9-10 weeks using the 630w of CMH and the Two 1000w de Dimlux units. I don't believe 4 x 4QB units will cover that area very well...

I did get a few prices on bulk heat sinks and cob holders as I couldn't get them in those amounts in the UK anyway, and the price wasn't too bad. Still much higher than what I ended up with, but cheaper than the cost of doing an all QB groom. For QB it was about £2500 I think, my current setup...

Ouch mate. I thought a bud or two was a downer. Piss poor that. I know its common outdoors, mother nature and all that. But Jesus wept. No products aimed at reducing this for outdoor growers yet?

I don't want to be at arms with another member, so what I am about to say I say with all due respect. However.. I don't see how I am your chosen target in making your point, personally I think it would have been much wiser to direct to someone whom you speak with regular here, if your goal is...

For the 4th time. Stick to it this time for all our sakes.

Exactly what I said, and to some extent it was agreed. As I say mate, the boy cant resist. I just reply to thread, then next thing I know I have some nasty little remark. I'll do me best though.

I'm supposed to be on the ignore list, really was the only reason I even replied to the thread. Boy cant resist chewing on my leg. Should just ignore it I suppose.

You just keep mouthing the same shit Lukio. You know it all, I know nothing. Its getting really boring now. Your just clearly desperate to piss me off. Its actually comical. I know you've convinced yourself your the GOD of LED and all knowing. And best of luck with that. But the closest your...

lukio go and haunt someone else boy cos I aint going anywhere and nobody's clapping to your bull shit.

Mate tbh, I would love a COB build. Its just the size of my groom. Calculate the amount of COB's I would need for the 3.4m x 2.4m area, I did do it once and its quite a few. 50 something I do believe. I had a great design based around GrowMau5's 12 COB design on one of his vids, only I had...

You didn't try jack all. You just wanted as many people to follow you down the QB path as possible regardless if the info you were giving them wasn't a definite fact. Just so you could cover your own ass if you were wrong about the QB's being the right choice. You just wanted me as fall back...

Really should consider a test grow. I can always understand scepticism, but they really are great light units for growing Cannabis. I dont believe everything is measurable with growing canna, there is a little magic to it. And the CMH has that spark. Just my opinion though.

Absolute twaddle. As false as you in every sense. The draw to output of a QB over an entire grow compared to the draw to output of an entire grow with my HID setup is less with the HID FACT. Because of my grow area things are not as simple as just picking up a print out from an LED light site...

Believe me I have tried. Big fan of LED, own them myself. Sadly I just get hounded every time I come to a thread regarding them. Fully agree on the application being the real decider though. Summertime in the loft with my setup, not a chance in hell. But LED would breeze through it no sweat...

But I am using less electricity Lukio. And the QB setup you suggested several times to me for my grow space was more wattage than I am using with HID. Not to mention the fact I only used my CMH to veg for the first 7 weeks. So in reality I use even less energy annually. A very large part of why...

I use HID, I can hit a GPW and more (not that it matters) I have the same spectrum output as LED if you brush aside all the hair splitting. The only difference between LED and the HID setup I chose?... £2000. Plus I only need to plug in 4 units instead of 10. I am amateur photographer at best...

HID, LED, it matters very little. As I have said before Lukio, your a young boy with a little tent, parents money and a nice camera. You hardly contribute to Cannabis growing topics at RIU, if at all, because you actually know very little about Cannabis growing. And try not to hide behind...