1 pound/month Project, need your help and tips

SunnyHours

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Hi Guys I'm doing some research on how to obtain at least a pound/month. I have some friends that kept saying how unbelievable the OG Kush I was growing and they were begging me to sell them some. One of those friends, who used to grow and sell, asked me to do business with him for a grow op, which was quite understandable, he's very good with the business side of things, however his growing skills are far from being ideal. I told him no at that time since I only grow for myself.
Long story short, I'm getting kicked out of my home so I need an apartment.

So now, I was thinking of getting a slightly bigger apartment with an extra room and setting up a 2x4 or 4x4 tent with my 400w.
Now, I did get about 4oz from 3 plants. And I would be "selling" my harvest to the friends I know are sick at a very reasonable price (pretty much my costs).
I have multiple diseases (autoimmune diseases) so I usually hang out with people who can understand me

What would you recommend for me, to get started?
It would be my first larger grow operation, so if you have any tips, secret or advices that could help me I would greatly appreciate!:hug:
I already have a 400w light and ballast, a 2x2 tent for the moms and clones, an A/C unit. a carbon filter (200cfm) a 4" 240CFM extractor.

I know I'll need a big ass carbon filter and a good ozone generator for my grow room and a powerful 6" extractor.

So I'm looking for tips on equipment and also some general tips to make handling so many plants easier.
Thanks a bunch fellow tokers :) :eyesmoke::mrgreen:
 

iiKode

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One thing is you may want to try hydroponics, linked up system, so you only have to fill up a rez to water ur plants instead of hand watering, alo hydro will give you that bit exra yield wise, but be carefull it may be too easy to mess everything up. you may also need to get a bigger flowering room, something lie x3 600w, or 2, im not too sure on that one, then do a perp grow, where u basically chop a couple plants, and the same day you have full vegged plants coming out of the veg room to replace the plants you are chopping, hhmm my grammar is crap, and i cant explain thigns realy good, im sure someone else with real experience in harvesting large amounts can help you on here.
 

H R Puff N Stuff

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4x6 tent 1000w hps 6 large plants 4oz per plant perpetual grow, space out two plant one week apart from each other (you dont want to trim 6 large plants at once) so two plants per week or so take 4-6 clones before sending to flower depending on success rate you will be ready when the first set is ready to harvest put in two more fresh ones and so forth oh and alot of patience and labeling and.....
 

lamopa

Active Member
Go hydro if you want bigger yields and faster harvest. Also with a 400w light I wouldn't go any bigger than a 3' x 3' area to maintain that 50w per sq. ft. ratio. In a set-up like that I would run 8 plants on a DWC hydro system, plus two smaller DWCs - one for clones in a large rubbermaid tub, and one for your mom (under CFLs or white/blue LED panels). Running this system by taking clones you should be able to harvest about an ounce or so per plant every 3 months which is about 2 pounds per year (8 plants x 1 oz x 4 times a year).
 

SunnyHours

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I'd love to experiment with hydro, but I don't have the funds for an hydroponics system at the moment. I mean I need another 400w or a 600w, a 500CFM extractor, a 500CFM carbon filter, a cooltube or a new air cooled hood, the tent and some CFLs for the moms.
I'll also need a new PH tester and some new nutes...ohh boy LOL
 

lamopa

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I'd love to experiment with hydro, but I don't have the funds for an hydroponics system at the moment. I mean I need another 400w or a 600w, a 500CFM extractor, a 500CFM carbon filter, a cooltube or a new air cooled hood, the tent and some CFLs for the moms.
I'll also need a new PH tester and some new nutes...ohh boy LOL
You can build a 10-gallon, 8-pot DWC system for under $100, buying 90% of the stuff at WalMart (the exception being the net pots, inserts, and hydro nutrients). A DWC cloner you can build for maybe $30. The mom you can leave in soil, she'll be OK.

Either way it does get expensive when you first start out, but most of the stuff you'll re-use, so after that first initial investment it will pay off in the long run. Good luck however, I hope you produce some nice buds for you and your friends!!
 

Dogenzengi

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I use 3.5 gallon black buckets I cut a groove on the lip to allow a line to a Large air-stone, the cover has to snap on so make you notch accordingly.
The cover has 4 --3" holes I use water heater wrap with sticky back and cut to fit cover to reduce heat transfer to water and to reflect light back up from below.
individual DWC buckets running on one large air pump.
16 sights in under a 3' sq area. Using 4 buckets.
tools,
3" hole saw
Drill or screw gun
Razor Knife or PVC saw

I use an air stone large enough so it won't float 2" round by 4" tall.
If you need specific instruction on how to get correct size holes for the 3.5" net pot feel free to PM me.
peace,
DZ
p.s.
I am a relative Noobie so take everything I say with a grain of salt:bigjoint:
 
My suggestion would be go coco or dwc get a 1k or 2x600 a 4x4 or 5x5 tent. Use your 400 to veg plants and keep your mother growing strong for clones when needed.
Gh 3 part or an monkey juice is pretty affordable and grows some nice buds.

You could sea of green or fill half the tent 1 month then the rest the next month.
 

SunnyHours

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I actually thought about it and 1 pound would be the end goal.
After the first couple of months I would have saved enough to invest in a hydro setup.
For now just setting up a grow room that large will require a major investment already.
The investment will be pretty big considering that odor control has to be perfect.
So Ozone generator, huge carbon filter and Ona to top it off.
Also let's not forget the deadlock(s) hehe
 

d3dm4n

Member
wait ... no one ever told me you can pull an lb a month off a 400w bulb. On second thought no way you can do that. A good goal would be like a gram per watt per cycle, cycle being 3 months you would need 448* 3 watts cause you want a lb per month. So get 2 600w and you should be good assuming you can keep the temp down in a small apartment building (get a 12000btu stand alone in room a/c tower). Also everyone will pry hate me ( I don't use them) but chemical nutes produce more quantity than organic nutes, just dont taste as good ... at all.
 

Dannoo93

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Im gonna try to get a pound a month running a perpetual.with two.tents every montg ill pull 3 plants that vegged for about 2 months then flowered for 70days in 5 gal buckets should be able to pull 6 oz plants I.hope since my 3 gals pull 4oz
 

SunnyHours

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I actually like wyteberrywidow's suggestion...5x5 and 600w or 1000w and I was planning on switching to GH anyways

Or going completely organic...
 

SunnyHours

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Ordered a LOT of seeds...1 pack of og raskal White fire and white urkle, a pack of RP og Kush and 1 pack of Sensi Seeds Skunk#1!
Cant wait to receive all that! Gonna feel like Christmas :)
 

spex420

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its already been addressed but hydro is the way to go the initial startup cost might be substantial but it'll pay for itself within the first harvest in cost,time, and manpower

i suggest building 4 or 5 small flood tables that way you don't have to tend to all the dwc setups just a couple tables or sets of 55g totes with 8-10 plants each forget that stick with the flood tables

you won't have to worry about dirt pots or any of that crap forget the 10 600w hps they're having you buy cross that bridge when you get there you might want to get a digi convertable 600w and for your first crop just use the 600 and the 400 use the profits from that to fund your second crop


things to consider-

~fem seeds save the time it takes to confirming females and just get fem
~make sure you'll have enough clones to start a crop all things considered (mothers big enough enough mothers) its better to have too many clones then not enough
~heat/smell *airfow* skunk #1 SMELLS my buddy was growing 1 small skunk #1 in his room in a rubbermaid tote when we were kids stunk the whole corner of the house up a bunch of fully matured full size skunk #1 girls will smell down the block in a apartment complex that can turn into a very big problem

~time- don't spread yourself too short you can alwys start this venture next crop use what you have while you veg your fem mothers start a couple girls is soil (5-10) under your 400w U scrog them harvest 1-2 oz per plant thats 5-20 oz even if its 5 thats 200-350 an o thats 1000-1700+ even more if you break it down
 

SunnyHours

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there is one small (reads as BIG) thing I forgot...that is moving and mothers, which doesn't seem to work well together.
Fuck I guess I have to fall back to plan B

Which is: Perpetual!
SCROG that 2x2
Make a Propagator for the top shelf of my wardrobe (approx 24x48x48").
Get a 1-2 big CFL's for the propagator (any recommendation on Wattage? not very well versed in CFL growing).

This is gonna work pretty well, thanks Spex420! I had thought about it...actually my original plan was 2x4 and the 3x2x4 propag...
Sadly, no 2x4's (of EXACTLY that size) could be found locally, and there's no way I'm paying 80$ for delivery!
 

SunnyHours

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2 DNA Rocklock in the works...1 might actually be a Barney's Vanilla Kush, but they never gave me anything so I highly doubt it even popped.
1 of them is really stunted lack of N I think (red/purple stems). That one will be a HEAVY feeder I think. It's a little taller than half a foot and it wants some nutes already, WOW!
I'm also germing the TH Seeds freebies I received from the 'tude, I received 1 order out of 2, and received a CBSA notice of seizure as well, no worries they are reshipping :)
Currently in a glass of water 1 Akorn AKA Snowbud, 1 Underdawg and 1 S.a.g.e n' Sour.
Quite excited for the Sage n' Sour though.

And Spex420, the Skunk#1 is for outdoor purposes...as soon as I receive them I'll plant them because july is quite late already...they were so cheap I thought I could experiment with them :P
 

althor

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Ok, while people are advising you to go hydro, yes it will increase your yield.
BUT, there is a reason people are going crazy over your weed and PART of that reason is because it is NOT grown in hydro.
Soil is going to give you more pungent smells and tastes, all weed grown in hydro has that slight hydro smell and aftertaste.
Of course there will be 1000x hydro growers refuting this, but the proof is in the pudding. You see them beating down your door for your soil grown buds.
 

Sheesh420

Member
You will need far more than HPS 400 for a pound a month. I'm going for a pound a month right now with HPS 2x1000 and will probably come in at around 12-20 OZ depending on which strains I put into perpetual grow.

With a high yielding strain, figure 3-4 plants under each HPS max to be able to accomplish this. The only people I know who get over this amount use a Co2 system coupled with HPS or they do it outside.
 
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