TheTruSmokr
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Great thread 0calli[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif], Bookmarked [/FONT]
1000w hps H.I.D lamp and 1 tiny closet MUWAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!
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0calli
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thnk you will be putting up some updates soon of the current grows goings ons lol
Great thread 0calli, Bookmarked
TheTruSmokr
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0calli
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the mr.nice nevilles haze growing fast and beautiful !!!
critical overdrives in the closet under 1000w
starting from lower bottom right is 2 ak-48 , the 2 nevilles haze in one pot , ak-48 , white rhino , and in the grow bags is the critical overdrives
the rhino i had to harvest 2 weeks early to save the bud due to minor mold issue
harvested and got rid of the problem black widow 6 weeks almost 7 weeks into flower with very very tiny buds
new rhino 2weeks into flower
TheTruSmokr
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Nice 0calli, thanks for the share bro 
What kinda light setup you have?
What kinda light setup you have?
0calli
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IM RUNNING A 1000W HID HPS SUPER GROW BULB IT PUSHES SOME OF THE HIGHEST LUMEN RATINGS MY BULB BUT I AM SWITCHING TOO INDUCTION OR PLASMA LIGHTING OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO AND WILL VEGG WITH THE 1000W 
lol
lol
Nice 0calli, thanks for the share bro
What kinda light setup you have?
TheTruSmokr
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IM RUNNING A 1000W HID HPS SUPER GROW BULB IT PUSHES SOME OF THE HIGHEST LUMEN RATINGS MY BULB BUT I AM SWITCHING TOO INDUCTION OR PLASMA LIGHTING OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO AND WILL VEGG WITH THE 1000W
Sweet, I bet your girls love that.
0calli
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i already vegg with it while its running and the go all freak on me lol
TheTruSmokr
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lol....Is your hood, air cooled?
0calli
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No hood !!!!!!!!
0calli
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HERE IS THE LINK TO MY WHOLE SETUP I BUILT
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/473411-poormans-super-closet-muwahahahahahaha.html
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/473411-poormans-super-closet-muwahahahahahaha.html
0calli
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two quick macros of the neville's haze buds
always liked this lil photo op of my oil
curing white rhino
TheTruSmokr
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Sweet buds, To bad I couldn't match you. WOuld love to smoke them buds.
Thedillestpickle
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...............what the heck is induction plasma lighting? 
It must be good with a name like that, sounds like something from star trek, and your replacing a 1000w HID with it? whoa! what is this thing
It must be good with a name like that, sounds like something from star trek, and your replacing a 1000w HID with it? whoa! what is this thing
0calli
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I hear ya man love sharing my prda and trying new proda
yeah liking the bags a lot ALSO USING BIO BAGS NOW AND PROB WILL BE FULLY SWITHCING OVER thnx for the thread "bump" .....................you got a link to your thread buddy love to see it !!!!
plasma or induction lighting is the use of plasma to produce what no bulb can do and that is a full spectrum across the whole board plus check these charts out and this article gives yuou a rundown comparrison
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[h=1]Here Comes the Sun[/h] Sunlight is the first order of life the energy that drives the life systems of our planet, from humans to plankton. So it follows that the heart of your indoor garden is the grow light. After all, its purpose is to provide the incident energy required by your plants to grow and bloom: to synthesize the sun. The grow light is the motor of photosynthesis in the indoor garden, driving all other plant processes.
Today, the majority of indoor gardeners in North America use 1000 Watt High Pressure Sodium (HPS) lamps to light their plants and many growers still use magnetic ballasts. It may surprise you to learn that this technology has been around in more or less its current form for over 30 years. In other disciplines, most notably computing, a great deal has changed during this time. Can you imagine buying a personal computer today that even closely resembled that which was available thirty years ago? In 1980 the latest and greatest microcomputer boasted a measly 16kB of RAM (barely enough to store a ringtone these days) and a 5-inch CRT display. If youre not abreast with the current state of computing technology, then consider this: a megabyte of storage would have set you back over $6,000 in 1980. Today, one hundred times this amount can be purchased for under a dollar. Things have moved on.
So what drove this huge amount of innovation? Essentially, nothing more than a heady mix of human ingenuity and rampant consumerism. That is, we all went crazy about computers and demanded more and more. In just a few decades they went from being arcane university research projects to being suffused into almost every part of our mainstream culture. Will the recent and dramatic rise in the popularity of indoor gardening serve as a similar catalyst for technological development in the field of indoor horticultural lighting? We certainly hope so.
[h=2]New Paradigms of Lighting for Plants[/h] If computers are measured in terms of processor speed and memory capacity, what is the equivalent set of metrics for the performance of a grow light? Okay, okay, obviously a grow light should make things grow. And the plants we want to grow have all evolved over millions of years to best exploit the solar energy generated by the Sun. So we dont need a Ph.D. in Photobiology to assert that the Sun is the only benchmark we need when it comes to producing artificial light for plants.
Thats a point worth restating. Were talking about light for plants here, not for humans. Its very important that we de-personify both our plants and, for that matter, our grow lights. Lumens measure general light intensity for the human eye, not the photo-systems in the leaf. What we perceive as a single color is actually a combination of many different wavelengths of light.
How plants relate to light is more like hearing would be for humans: by frequency. Sunlight contains a full spectrum of different frequencies. PAR light, nanometers, and other older references for light cant be used as a reference for frequency; nanometers and frequencies are inversely related (backwards) to each other. Frequency means its more about the energy that plants really need, and nanometers is more about whats best for people to understand.
The "Plant Sensitivity Curve" shows photosynthetic response to light at various wavelengths. (X axis = WAVELENGTH (nm); Y axis = "SENSITIVITY") Photo credit: Chameleon Grow Systems.
One of the primary reasons that HPS light was adopted by indoor gardeners is a NASA study produced over 20 years ago that basically stated: Plants are efficient at using red light. You have probably seen the spectral distribution charts on some HPS lamp packaging showing the peaks in spectral output. However, plants are efficient at using red light because, of all the colors in the spectrum that shine on the Earth from the Sun, red light has the least amount of energy. Photobiologists refer to this in terms of electron volts per photon. You can excite the cells of a solar panel with a violet light that has 3.1 electron volts per photon. But shining red light that has only 1.7 volts per photon on a solar panel is not sufficient to excite the cells. So, just because plants are efficient in using the low amounts of energy in the red parts of sunlight, it doesnt necessarily mean that the best lighting for plants is high in the red parts of the spectrum. We dont need to bombard our plants with red light. Plants require all the colors of the light spectrum as they utilize these different parts in different ways.
Another reason HPS light is used by indoor gardeners is to imitate the commercial greenhouse growers who use HPS for daylight supplementation. However, its important to note that, in greenhouses, HPS is used in addition to the blue light of natural daylight. Its clearly a different ballgame to grow indoors using only artificial light, and we should treat it as such.
[h=2]Who Turned Up The Heat?[/h] So whats an indoor gardener to do? We want to give our gardens lots of light especially if we are growing light-loving varieties such as tomatoes and capsicums. HPS lamps output a lot of light, but in limited parts of the spectrum. They also produce a LOT of heat in the infrared part of the spectrum. And, as we all know, unless youre growing indoors in Alaska, excessive heat is the nemesis of the indoor gardener. Surely there has to be a better way to grow indoors? Think of all those kilowatts of energy used to power grow lights, and all the kilowatts of energy used to power air conditioners, chillers and fans to remove the heat they generate! What technology exists to give our plants all the light they need indoors without creating other problems that require energy-intensive solutions? Do we need to improve current technology or go back to the drawing board? Do we need new lamps? New ballasts? New reflectors? New light movers? These are all very important questions.
Before we embark on our preview of alternative grow light technologies, please bear in mind that some of these technologies are further away from being stocked in your local grow store than others. Research and development is happening all the time, and this work is not confined to universities real growers (albeit super enthusiastic hobbyists) are involved too. Right now, some of these technologies, for a variety of reasons, are less accessible than others. But things will change, if we drive that change. Remember, it was possible to buy a 1GB hard drive in 1980 it was just the size of a refrigerator, weighed 550 pounds and cost $40,000! Today a hard drive 500 times that size will comfortably slip into your pocket if theres room! (It will only set you back $70.)
Now put yourself in the shoes of an IT enthusiast in the 80s. Are we at an equivalent point on the technology/accessibility curve for indoor garden lighting? If so, these are indeed exciting times! Okay, thats quite enough preamble! Lets take a look at the contenders
But first [h=2]Light A Crash Course[/h]
The human eye is most sensitive to a yellowish green color. But what seems 'bright' to us is not what plants respond best to. Photo credit: Chameleon Grow Systems.
In one sense, light can be thought of as electromagnetic radiation, like radio waves, microwaves waves, X rays and gamma radiation. What we refer to as visible light is simply the radiation that we can sense with our eyes. The average human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 380 to 750 nanometers. We perceive light as colors, with our maximum sensitivity at around 555 nm, in the green region of the optical spectrum. Light with a wavelength of 380-450 nm is perceived as violet. As the wavelengths become shorter it becomes ultraviolet (UV). At the other end of the visible light scale, wavelengths of 620-750 nm are perceived as red. As the wavelengths become longer (infrared) we perceive this electromagnetic radiation as heat, rather than light.
Light can also be conceived as a stream of light particles, called photons. One method to calculate the intensity of an artificial plant light source is to count the number of photons that hit a leaf per second. The unit for this calculation is micromoles per second (μmol/sec). Some growers reference the Photosynthetic Photon Flux (PPF) just the photons that are between 400 and 700 nm. This is clearly a more relevant way of measuring light intensity for plants than, say, lumens, but it should still only be treated as an indicator. When all has been said and done, were trying to establish the quantity of usable light that hits the leaves of our plants.
[h=3]Spectral Distribution[/h] The distribution of energy in the lamp on the frequency spectrum is called the Spectral Distribution. The Sun has a full, continuous spectrum and thats what were aiming for too with our grow lights. The ideal grow light efficiently transforms electricity into the maximum amount of usable light energy (for the plants), with as little heat (infrared) as possible. Other factors to consider are lamp life and depreciation, and, of course, cost!
[h=3]Inverse Square Law[/h] Remember, if you double the distance between a leaf and your artificial light source, the amount of energy that hits the leaf is divided by FOUR. Stated another way, when you double the distance from the light source you lose 75% of the light energy from the light source. So when we talk about how much usable light a grow light puts out, we need to consider environmental factors too namely heat! Experienced indoor growers shoot for a temperature of around 80-82°F around the canopy of their plants in a CO2 enriched environment, slightly less for atmospheric CO2 levels. Its important that we evaluate the potential of any grow light in the real world, and not just the isolated data of manufacturers technical specification charts.
[h=2]Sulfur Plasma[/h]
Plasma International's Sulfur Plasma grow light. Photo credit: Clive Wing & Boris Lutterbach and Aad Baar.
Plasma International, a British/German company, has developed a grow light based on sulfur plasma technology. The lamp and magnetron unit is an electrode-less lamp that includes an evacuated quartz bulb partly backfilled with argon and with a little sulfur, plus a source of microwave power, a magnetron, for exciting a ball of plasma within the bulb. The lamps themselves are manufactured in Germany and can be powered by any 400W to 1400W Plasma Lighting System. The lamp produces almost no ultraviolet light and just a little infrared. It delivers a full and continuous spectrum (which means there are no troughs or missing/lacking color content). Full spectrum lighting is regarded as crucial for healthy plant development because its what plants have evolved for millions of years to exploit.
Wageningen University in the Netherlands has been using Plasma Internationals Sulfur Plasma lamp to research simulating daylight in an indoor environment. Researchers had to shine the incredibly powerful light indirectly at cucumber cuttings through mirrors and filters. The tests, conducted in a climate-controlled room, showed that young cucumber plants grew much better then under HPS. Researchers believe this is due to the color of the light and its ability to influence the shape of the plant. At the right light color, the young plant captures light energy far more easily.
The cucumber plants grew more than 60% faster than those grown under HPS, and more than 120% better than those grown under compact fluorescents! There was also a marked increase in branching and larger leaves. The first results (released September 2009) also showed that the specially-created artificial sunlight spectrum made the young cucumber plants 64% heavier than those grown under HPS (SON-T) light, at equal light strength.
Plasma Internationals lamp draws 1300W from the mains and delivers 1000W to the bulb. It is dimmable down to between 10-40% depending on which bulb is being used. The moving parts inside the lamp are guaranteed for 100,000 hours of use this movement, the manufacturers claim, gives greater control over the plasmoid. They also claim that they can quite easily alter the mix of the bulb and adjust the spectral output to specific applications. To date, Plasma International has developed one lamp for vegetative growth and another for flowering. The lamps produce less than half the infrared heat per watt compared to HPS or Metal Halide.
The lamp comes as two boxes. Each box is 9 x 6.6 x 6.6 in size. One box contains the plasma-i-tron and the other is the power supply. The lamp can easily cover the same area as a 1000W HPS but, because of the reduced heat, it could be positioned closer to plants.
More information: www.plasma-i.com
Time to market: 1-2 years.
sweet buds, to bad i couldn't match you. Would love to smoke them buds.
yeah liking the bags a lot ALSO USING BIO BAGS NOW AND PROB WILL BE FULLY SWITHCING OVER thnx for the thread "bump" .....................you got a link to your thread buddy love to see it !!!!
...............what the heck is induction plasma lighting?
It must be good with a name like that, sounds like something from star trek, and your replacing a 1000w hid with it? Whoa! What is this thing
plasma or induction lighting is the use of plasma to produce what no bulb can do and that is a full spectrum across the whole board plus check these charts out and this article gives yuou a rundown comparrison
View attachment 2022215[h=1]Here Comes the Sun[/h] Sunlight is the first order of life the energy that drives the life systems of our planet, from humans to plankton. So it follows that the heart of your indoor garden is the grow light. After all, its purpose is to provide the incident energy required by your plants to grow and bloom: to synthesize the sun. The grow light is the motor of photosynthesis in the indoor garden, driving all other plant processes.
Today, the majority of indoor gardeners in North America use 1000 Watt High Pressure Sodium (HPS) lamps to light their plants and many growers still use magnetic ballasts. It may surprise you to learn that this technology has been around in more or less its current form for over 30 years. In other disciplines, most notably computing, a great deal has changed during this time. Can you imagine buying a personal computer today that even closely resembled that which was available thirty years ago? In 1980 the latest and greatest microcomputer boasted a measly 16kB of RAM (barely enough to store a ringtone these days) and a 5-inch CRT display. If youre not abreast with the current state of computing technology, then consider this: a megabyte of storage would have set you back over $6,000 in 1980. Today, one hundred times this amount can be purchased for under a dollar. Things have moved on.
So what drove this huge amount of innovation? Essentially, nothing more than a heady mix of human ingenuity and rampant consumerism. That is, we all went crazy about computers and demanded more and more. In just a few decades they went from being arcane university research projects to being suffused into almost every part of our mainstream culture. Will the recent and dramatic rise in the popularity of indoor gardening serve as a similar catalyst for technological development in the field of indoor horticultural lighting? We certainly hope so.
[h=2]New Paradigms of Lighting for Plants[/h] If computers are measured in terms of processor speed and memory capacity, what is the equivalent set of metrics for the performance of a grow light? Okay, okay, obviously a grow light should make things grow. And the plants we want to grow have all evolved over millions of years to best exploit the solar energy generated by the Sun. So we dont need a Ph.D. in Photobiology to assert that the Sun is the only benchmark we need when it comes to producing artificial light for plants.
Thats a point worth restating. Were talking about light for plants here, not for humans. Its very important that we de-personify both our plants and, for that matter, our grow lights. Lumens measure general light intensity for the human eye, not the photo-systems in the leaf. What we perceive as a single color is actually a combination of many different wavelengths of light.
How plants relate to light is more like hearing would be for humans: by frequency. Sunlight contains a full spectrum of different frequencies. PAR light, nanometers, and other older references for light cant be used as a reference for frequency; nanometers and frequencies are inversely related (backwards) to each other. Frequency means its more about the energy that plants really need, and nanometers is more about whats best for people to understand.
One of the primary reasons that HPS light was adopted by indoor gardeners is a NASA study produced over 20 years ago that basically stated: Plants are efficient at using red light. You have probably seen the spectral distribution charts on some HPS lamp packaging showing the peaks in spectral output. However, plants are efficient at using red light because, of all the colors in the spectrum that shine on the Earth from the Sun, red light has the least amount of energy. Photobiologists refer to this in terms of electron volts per photon. You can excite the cells of a solar panel with a violet light that has 3.1 electron volts per photon. But shining red light that has only 1.7 volts per photon on a solar panel is not sufficient to excite the cells. So, just because plants are efficient in using the low amounts of energy in the red parts of sunlight, it doesnt necessarily mean that the best lighting for plants is high in the red parts of the spectrum. We dont need to bombard our plants with red light. Plants require all the colors of the light spectrum as they utilize these different parts in different ways.
Another reason HPS light is used by indoor gardeners is to imitate the commercial greenhouse growers who use HPS for daylight supplementation. However, its important to note that, in greenhouses, HPS is used in addition to the blue light of natural daylight. Its clearly a different ballgame to grow indoors using only artificial light, and we should treat it as such.
[h=2]Who Turned Up The Heat?[/h] So whats an indoor gardener to do? We want to give our gardens lots of light especially if we are growing light-loving varieties such as tomatoes and capsicums. HPS lamps output a lot of light, but in limited parts of the spectrum. They also produce a LOT of heat in the infrared part of the spectrum. And, as we all know, unless youre growing indoors in Alaska, excessive heat is the nemesis of the indoor gardener. Surely there has to be a better way to grow indoors? Think of all those kilowatts of energy used to power grow lights, and all the kilowatts of energy used to power air conditioners, chillers and fans to remove the heat they generate! What technology exists to give our plants all the light they need indoors without creating other problems that require energy-intensive solutions? Do we need to improve current technology or go back to the drawing board? Do we need new lamps? New ballasts? New reflectors? New light movers? These are all very important questions.
Before we embark on our preview of alternative grow light technologies, please bear in mind that some of these technologies are further away from being stocked in your local grow store than others. Research and development is happening all the time, and this work is not confined to universities real growers (albeit super enthusiastic hobbyists) are involved too. Right now, some of these technologies, for a variety of reasons, are less accessible than others. But things will change, if we drive that change. Remember, it was possible to buy a 1GB hard drive in 1980 it was just the size of a refrigerator, weighed 550 pounds and cost $40,000! Today a hard drive 500 times that size will comfortably slip into your pocket if theres room! (It will only set you back $70.)
Now put yourself in the shoes of an IT enthusiast in the 80s. Are we at an equivalent point on the technology/accessibility curve for indoor garden lighting? If so, these are indeed exciting times! Okay, thats quite enough preamble! Lets take a look at the contenders
But first [h=2]Light A Crash Course[/h]
In one sense, light can be thought of as electromagnetic radiation, like radio waves, microwaves waves, X rays and gamma radiation. What we refer to as visible light is simply the radiation that we can sense with our eyes. The average human eye will respond to wavelengths from about 380 to 750 nanometers. We perceive light as colors, with our maximum sensitivity at around 555 nm, in the green region of the optical spectrum. Light with a wavelength of 380-450 nm is perceived as violet. As the wavelengths become shorter it becomes ultraviolet (UV). At the other end of the visible light scale, wavelengths of 620-750 nm are perceived as red. As the wavelengths become longer (infrared) we perceive this electromagnetic radiation as heat, rather than light.
Light can also be conceived as a stream of light particles, called photons. One method to calculate the intensity of an artificial plant light source is to count the number of photons that hit a leaf per second. The unit for this calculation is micromoles per second (μmol/sec). Some growers reference the Photosynthetic Photon Flux (PPF) just the photons that are between 400 and 700 nm. This is clearly a more relevant way of measuring light intensity for plants than, say, lumens, but it should still only be treated as an indicator. When all has been said and done, were trying to establish the quantity of usable light that hits the leaves of our plants.
[h=3]Spectral Distribution[/h] The distribution of energy in the lamp on the frequency spectrum is called the Spectral Distribution. The Sun has a full, continuous spectrum and thats what were aiming for too with our grow lights. The ideal grow light efficiently transforms electricity into the maximum amount of usable light energy (for the plants), with as little heat (infrared) as possible. Other factors to consider are lamp life and depreciation, and, of course, cost!
[h=3]Inverse Square Law[/h] Remember, if you double the distance between a leaf and your artificial light source, the amount of energy that hits the leaf is divided by FOUR. Stated another way, when you double the distance from the light source you lose 75% of the light energy from the light source. So when we talk about how much usable light a grow light puts out, we need to consider environmental factors too namely heat! Experienced indoor growers shoot for a temperature of around 80-82°F around the canopy of their plants in a CO2 enriched environment, slightly less for atmospheric CO2 levels. Its important that we evaluate the potential of any grow light in the real world, and not just the isolated data of manufacturers technical specification charts.
[h=2]Sulfur Plasma[/h]
Plasma International, a British/German company, has developed a grow light based on sulfur plasma technology. The lamp and magnetron unit is an electrode-less lamp that includes an evacuated quartz bulb partly backfilled with argon and with a little sulfur, plus a source of microwave power, a magnetron, for exciting a ball of plasma within the bulb. The lamps themselves are manufactured in Germany and can be powered by any 400W to 1400W Plasma Lighting System. The lamp produces almost no ultraviolet light and just a little infrared. It delivers a full and continuous spectrum (which means there are no troughs or missing/lacking color content). Full spectrum lighting is regarded as crucial for healthy plant development because its what plants have evolved for millions of years to exploit.
Wageningen University in the Netherlands has been using Plasma Internationals Sulfur Plasma lamp to research simulating daylight in an indoor environment. Researchers had to shine the incredibly powerful light indirectly at cucumber cuttings through mirrors and filters. The tests, conducted in a climate-controlled room, showed that young cucumber plants grew much better then under HPS. Researchers believe this is due to the color of the light and its ability to influence the shape of the plant. At the right light color, the young plant captures light energy far more easily.
The cucumber plants grew more than 60% faster than those grown under HPS, and more than 120% better than those grown under compact fluorescents! There was also a marked increase in branching and larger leaves. The first results (released September 2009) also showed that the specially-created artificial sunlight spectrum made the young cucumber plants 64% heavier than those grown under HPS (SON-T) light, at equal light strength.
Plasma Internationals lamp draws 1300W from the mains and delivers 1000W to the bulb. It is dimmable down to between 10-40% depending on which bulb is being used. The moving parts inside the lamp are guaranteed for 100,000 hours of use this movement, the manufacturers claim, gives greater control over the plasmoid. They also claim that they can quite easily alter the mix of the bulb and adjust the spectral output to specific applications. To date, Plasma International has developed one lamp for vegetative growth and another for flowering. The lamps produce less than half the infrared heat per watt compared to HPS or Metal Halide.
The lamp comes as two boxes. Each box is 9 x 6.6 x 6.6 in size. One box contains the plasma-i-tron and the other is the power supply. The lamp can easily cover the same area as a 1000W HPS but, because of the reduced heat, it could be positioned closer to plants.
More information: www.plasma-i.com
Time to market: 1-2 years.
0calli
Well-Known Member
a 400-420w induction lighting system will run about 650-800 $ , but it uses 60% less power almost no real heat and the 400w preforms just as good if not better than my 1000w hps h.i.d. Super grow bulb also the bulbs last i believe i read over 100,000 hrs and are not super expensive to replace like hps or mh bulb ........................ The only down side i see to induction lighting is finding a reputable dealer for the systems
SFguy
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I was reading about this system in rosebud a few months ago.. looked promising, im glad you are going to be the "how do i say it" guinea pig??? lmao
what are bio bags?? biodegradeable? im all ffor saving the environment bro, wheres a link for them??
as for my grow thread, its in my signature under MY GROW only thread i ever started... i just read =)
what are bio bags?? biodegradeable? im all ffor saving the environment bro, wheres a link for them??
as for my grow thread, its in my signature under MY GROW only thread i ever started... i just read =)
TheTruSmokr
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Love all the info on that plasma. I'll keep that in mind if I get the money.
0calli
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its just a reusable pot , any size , and 100% bbreathable durable material it give what bags and pots not even air pots 100% oxygen to the roots no blocking of air
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