10x12 grow room need ideas please

kizphilly

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i have a perfect spot for a grow room but the problem is i dont know where to go from here the room is 10x12(in the basment with a window) and i want to set up a hydropontics system up but i need some ideals on what im gonna need to build this room im basicly stuck with an empty room and a bunch of ideas all the input i can get will be great
thanks
kiz
 

LoveIt

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you could grow a ridiculous amount of weed in a space that size... what is the height of the room?
 

potlike

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What are your budget constraints?
What are you hoping to achieve yield wise or time?
~8 foot ceilings?

Answer some of those questions and we can tell you what is possible under those circumstances.


-pot
 

kizphilly

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i have anywhre from 200-400 dollars to start off with i dont know how mcuh all the stuff im gonna need cost i wanna start out with 5-10 plants becouse this is my first grow i dont wanna over do it and yes 8ft should be about right and i aint in no rush so time doesnt matter as long as i get some good plants and vv thats the only room i have so im gonna have to work with it
 

johnnyjive

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dude you need mylar or tin foil or paint your walls white the set up a air flow system or just use fans or a fan keep the humidity right if possible i grow outside but i've read up mad stuff a 400 or 600 or 1000 watt hps light will do u most good im sur you might need two of each smaller one but one thousand should suit you fine more experienced people should be able too tell u oh
 

Bayou_Billy

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Wait and save up more money. Do it right the first time so you don't have to re-purchase better supplies later. You could do a lot of cool things with that space. This is an expensive hobby. Unless you want to put of a bunch of CFL's, focus on your light then venting.
 

potlike

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for 5-10 plants hrmm

how about something very simple for 4 plants ?

If so go 4'x'1 and get cardboard from grocery store and paint that with a flat white paint. Buy 4 5 gallon buckets and put one plant per bucket. I would make each bucket an aeroponic system and grow all 4 plants under a 250w HPS light that comes with all the lighting you would need for flowering. Next I would get a few fans for intake and exhaust of air and one oscillating fan to promote healthy stem strength. Make sure your exhaust exceeds your intake. Buy a t5 ho 54watt 48 inch fixture with two lamps-use this for vegetative at around 10,000 lumens/4 you should be fine for 2500 lumens psf at vegging. Next buy fox farm trio nutrients for about $40-$60. Follow feeding guide on their website.

Add some diy co2 and diy carbon filters pickup atleast a ph meter and you should have a nice PIMP HIGH YIELDING setup for around $400-$500. Search here for diy aero buckets and you can figure that out how to run it all with one reservoir and pump. There are many ways you can do this I'm just letting you know a highly effective good setup for your cost.

Oh yeah make sure you rate the load of what your system will add to your circuit breaker you don't want to start any fires by overloading the amperage. Depending where you are located: in states your grow room will be located on a 15-20 amp breaker and in 240v countries you will see 30-40amps. DO NOT OVERLOAD THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS- but if that setup is the only shit on the given circuit you will be MORE than fine.

-pot
 

olds442

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i would do more then four plants and you will need more light then 250 hps i grow four plants and i have two 1000w hps one 1000w hps cover three meters i would do a sog in a room that size and i would not even buy the t5 fuck the t5 child play there only good for clones get a MH for veg or you can grow with just a hps oh yah remember about the odor control you said you only have 300 to 400$ to start with i would save up i spent 800 for my lights and ballast and panda plastic and food . but this is all my apinon potlikes set up good to but i dont think there enought light
 

potlike

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for a first grow to get confidence up and on his budget I just say he eases into it.

4 plants at 250w is plenty in 4square feet do the math
28,000 lumens/4 square feet = 7000 lumens per square foot which is at the optimal range. Anyr thing over 5000 lumens psf is respectable.

the t5's handle vegetation just fine if you keep them close they will work wonders for you. 2500 lumens per square foot is fine in vegetative especially better usable light than mh or hps lamps.

With white widow as the strain he could expect around a pound with that setup with proper nutrients and atmospheric conditions. And if he didn't get that atleast it lets him test the water before starting big.

There is alot to learn let him soak it up gradually.


-pot
 

VictorVIcious

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kiz sorry man, I was just kidding. For $200 to $400, ou know you will not be using all of that room. I'll put in a serious 2cents worth. For that kind of money I believe you could make a "Barrel Of Green". Major Toke posted it in this forum and one of the inventors, Dr. Pot is a member of this forum. He was using a 250 watt bulb at that time and getting a really decent harvest for the investment. I think it will give you a real good idea of the kind of control you will need as you move in to the room. Because its an enclosed system you would be able to work on the physical plant for the rest of the room. To run that size, 10' by 12', you will end up with at least a few thousand invested. I would also recommend you look up RollitUps post on how to build a grow room. He shows a simple set up, a more complex set up and an ultimate set up. Some of us are still working on simple. I know I am. VV
 

olds442

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yah i guess your right i was looking at it from the buy it once idea instead of buying a 250w hps setup and then upgrading it to a 600w or a 1000 hps

but i dont agree with you on the t5 being better light then MH HPS becuace if that where true then why wouldent every body grow with them
 

kizphilly

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i belive im gonna start off small maybe 4 or 5 plants now that ive been thinking about it and then once i learn more im gonna invest more money and go from there i appricate all the input i will take some pica and post them once i get a chance to clean up the room
thanks
kiz
 

potlike

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Go 4 x 1 in your setup then you can use those t5 lights as your vegging, the alternative would be to get a ballast that supports conversion bulbs and purchase both a hps light and a mh 250 watter. The reason I did not suggest this at first was because although it can be highly effective it puts out alot of heat and when you are just cracking those seeds open your babies are going to be really sensitive, so you don't wanna fry them. Also, with the t5 high output that allows you a second area of growing so when you become more experienced and put more money into your system it will allow for more fluent crops/harvests. If you want I could design you a complete system for that $$ if you think you are a handy enough guy to pull it off


-pot
 

kizphilly

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im not gonna be building it my bro is and he can build anything so if u wanna do that i would appricate it
 

potlike

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Ok, on the first picture this is what I would think be optimal dimensions

2 boards of 4x3

2 boards of 1x3

and 2 boards of 4x1

This will be an aeroponic system- should yield great and you will learn plenty.

Reason for this is by going with 4 plants with 1 square foot per plant it makes for easy math to make optimal growing conditions. At 3 feet high it makes it nice level to be able to play with your plants since you have the room and will promote HUGE root growth in an overall healthier plant. Now to water proof this in the inside line it with 4-6mil painter's tarp/plastic that you can buy at walmart or your local hardware store. 4 mil will be fine however 6 mil will be better at resisting tears. I would line these boards with this tarp before you ever start nailing them together.

The second picture shows the concept of an aeroponic system however I would buy a storage tote and use that for your water reservoir independent of the 4x1 growing area. You can double this construction and use one for flowering and one for vegging so you can keep a fairly consistent crop going.

Buy a cheap tds meter so you can measure ppm of your nutes/water and a cheap ph meter as well.

As far as lighting goes go with a 250 hps light for flowering that should provide you with 4x1 square feet = 4 feet 28,000 lumens/4sf = 7000 lumens per square feet and is considered HIGHLY respectable if not optimal by even some commercial growers.

You reported you wanted to stay at around an initial cost of $200-$400. I am an econ major so that means low fixed cost to me. In that case you can purchase a couple shoplites that support 2 bulbs of t8 daylight 6500k bulbs each and that would put you around 3000 lumens per square foot for vegging which is more than enough. Foxfarm nutrients are about $50 for the trio package and just use an oscillating fan to move air. For venting you can buy a stanley blower fan from walmart for $40 and it will be more than you would ever need

Regardless awesome setup at a budget price.


-pot
 

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