12-1 lighting schedule, has anyone actually tried this?

skunkushybrid01

skunkushybrid01

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some more from the .pdf

The Gas Lantern Routine is applicable in seedling phases
of plant growth. As stated before, nowhere in nature
does the springtime ever provide an 18-hour photosynthesis
length; rather, the growing spring light may in fact
be 12 hours or less. Lighting for seedlings and cuttings
needs to be bright, but compact fluorescent or T5 lighting
may be used while in the seedling phase. Rooted
mature cuttings can immediately light with HID lighting.
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Just because in nature some plants may see less than 12 hours of good light per day does not mean that this is the best thing for them. Indeed it does not go completely dark as no amount of shade (unless beneath a heavy canopy) can ever block out the sun completely enough to call it dark.
 
snew

snew

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"they've already reported the negatives int his thread..."
Could you please point me to the people who have experienced these negative issues.

"... so i believe the hour break in the middle of a 12/12 schedule is not enough to prevent flowering."
Who has experienced this? Have you? Where is your evidence? Me and the others here have plants they have growing. All positive.

" if you'd checked my previous answers you would see that i have answered this indirectly already"
Could answer to these directly. WHO HAS HAD THESE PROBLEMS? WHO?

You are the only one not offering evidence. Everyone one else offers the experience, articles and numerous threads from different sites out these. What you BELIEVE is not important here. Show one actual negative result. I keep asking. Show me one!
All I hear is I think, I believe.
 
wheezer

wheezer

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You can fight and argue all day if that's what you want to do, and obviously it is wht you enjoy, saying the same thing over and over and over and over.....if it's sooo pointless to you, why are you argueing with people? If it has NO point to it at all, why are you wasting your time looking for a scientific answer? I have a grow going under this schedule now, it's got 4 different strains, and they are doing fine. 30% more growth...I doubt that, but the plants are very healthy and happy and it's saving electric for sure. Isn't that the whole "POINT" to begin with?
I'll go ahead and have fun with my grows and leave the argueing to you!
 
snew

snew

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Very good Wheezer. I agree, my plants are healthy and I'm saving electricity. I do not see 30% more grow but I've never said or really expected that. But then I don't expect anything to do that.
 
Dr Gruber

Dr Gruber

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skunkushybrid01 said:
they've already reported the negatives int his thread... a stunting to growth, obviously the plant isn't growing as well as it would with more light. the plants are taking longer to grow. also, the flowering thing. force flowering plants from seed will still take 4 weeks and longer in some cases for them to start flowering. so i believe the hour break in the middle of a 12/12 schedule is not enough to prevent flowering.

calm down and answer intelligently... just because i disagree with you on this doesn't mean you need to start crying. act like an adult and have a proper discussion. the 3rd time you ask something does not mean you deserve an answer. if you'd checked my previous answers you would see that i have answered this indirectly already.
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Well, mine did not go into flower before i wanted them too, so i guess in at least my case, you are wrong.

Just so you know...the problem people are having with you is your tone. You dont need to insult people to get your point across.
 
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tellno1

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progenitor04 said:
i dont feel like reading thru all of this but has anyone tried the flowering method cuttin down hours n such and has had good results ?
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lol don't blame you at all for not reading thru the thread .. a lot of BS from one person lol ... as for your question about cutting down hours in flower .. i haven't done it myself because i have a perpetual grow , but know a few people that do, they cut 1/2 hr of light every week till finish (ie week 1 - 12 hr, week 2 -11.5 hr, etc) they seem to like it, it does in my opinion cause the flowers to create more resin, maybe even finish quicker, but again its just my opinion. i do think they finish a week or so earlier, but again there are a lot of other things to take into consideration .. no one grows the same way . i personally use a 10/14 to flower, works for me .. hope you find the info your lookin for ..

happy grown
 
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tellno1

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wheezer said:
You can fight and argue all day if that's what you want to do, and obviously it is wht you enjoy, saying the same thing over and over and over and over.....if it's sooo pointless to you, why are you argueing with people? If it has NO point to it at all, why are you wasting your time looking for a scientific answer? I have a grow going under this schedule now, it's got 4 different strains, and they are doing fine. 30% more growth...I doubt that, but the plants are very healthy and happy and it's saving electric for sure. Isn't that the whole "POINT" to begin with?
I'll go ahead and have fun with my grows and leave the argueing to you!
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lol i agree with you wheezer ... thats the main thing .. have fun with growing .. there will always be a few negative and unreceptive people that will argue their way is the best and no other ways are possible, but if your happy with the way you grow and the plants are healthy who gives a poop what the negitive people say

happy growin
 
LILBSDAD

LILBSDAD

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progenitor04 said:
i dont feel like reading thru all of this but has anyone tried the flowering method cuttin down hours n such and has had good results ?
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I am currently in week 5 of this and will update tomorrow. I can say everything is looking good so far, I updated last week if you can go back that far. Sorry this troll has hijacked this thread because he had to shut his operation down and is mad at the world and riu.
 
skunkushybrid01

skunkushybrid01

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snew said:
As I said my plants are smaller and bushier using the 12 on, 5.5 off, 1 on, 5.5 off. Bushier than 24-0 or 18-6. Thats what the article said to expect and thats what I've got.
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if something is bushier then this signifies better growth. this is not possible with less light.

LILBSDAD said:
Your lame comments are the only thing that are pointless in this thread. Give a reason for it being pointless or stay out of my thread.
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here is where i was asked for my reasons as to why i believe the method is pointless. then afterwards you cry and whinge when i tell you.

snew said:
Very good Wheezer. I agree, my plants are healthy and I'm saving electricity. I do not see 30% more grow but I've never said or really expected that. But then I don't expect anything to do that.
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You are not saving electricity as the plant will simply take longer to veg'... if indeed veg can be maintained under that light schedule.
 
skunkushybrid01

skunkushybrid01

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LILBSDAD said:
I am currently in week 5 of this and will update tomorrow. I can say everything is looking good so far, I updated last week if you can go back that far. Sorry this troll has hijacked this thread because he had to shut his operation down and is mad at the world and riu.
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in week 5 of what? this schedule is only for veg', it's no good showing pix of flowering plants.
 
azman

azman

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skunkushybrid01 said:
You are not saving electricity as the plant will simply take longer to veg'... if indeed veg can be maintained under that light schedule.
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have to agree to disagree there, as stated earlier on by me, i usually veg to a certain height and that takes around 5 weeks to achieve,
i achieved that height in 4 weeks,
plus i managed to sustain a veg state of growth for them 4 weeks with no flowers too.
my plants flowered when i wanted them to ie the light schedule change.
as for this is only for a veg lighting, you are infact again wrong or didnt even bother to read the article before deciding its not possible.
there is a flowering lighting schedule there too.
i have nothing but POSITIVE experience using this schedule, and thats with evidence that i have from me, not read.
go troll else where your causing bad vibes round here.
 
Dr Gruber

Dr Gruber

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Here is a plant thats been under the 12-1 schedule for just over 30 days. It went from about 12 inches tall to about 39 tall and 39 wide. looks to still be in Veg...didnt stretch and is looking pretty bushy.


same plant 4 days before the 12-1 schedule....
 
azman

azman

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yes but as skunk says its clearly not possible you are defying the laws lol.
btw looks real nice.
 
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Hazuki

Member
Hi, greetings from a fellow grower from Germany! I want to say that I'm really excited to try out this new lighting cycle myself. I will do it on my next run with 400W MH/HPS. I have 9 Chronic cuttings already rooted. Since a few days they are under 12/5.5/1/5.5. I will continue like that when I put them under the 400W MH lamp in ~1.5 weeks. Flowering will also be done like described (11/13, 10.5/13.5, 10/14, etc).

Now I got a little question: How are the plants reacting during the stretch period? Is the stretch the same as always or does something change? If the plants stretch less or for a shorter time, it would be wise to let them a bit longer in the vegetative phase than normal, wouldn't you say?
 
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tellno1

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Hazuki said:
Hi, greetings from a fellow grower from Germany! I want to say that I'm really excited to try out this new lighting cycle myself. I will do it on my next run with 400W MH/HPS. I have 9 Chronic cuttings already rooted. Since a few days they are under 12/5.5/1/5.5. I will continue like that when I put them under the 400W MH lamp in ~1.5 weeks. Flowering will also be done like described (11/13, 10.5/13.5, 10/14, etc).

Now I got a little question: How are the plants reacting during the stretch period? Is the stretch the same as always or does something change? If the plants strech less or for a shorter time, it would be wise to let them a bit longer in the vegetative phase than normal, wouldn't you say?
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i found the stretch wasnt as bad with 10/14 , maybe 1/2 of what they did on 12/12 .. and from others i've seen using the schedual like yours shows less stretch also .. hope this helps

happy growin
 
LILBSDAD

LILBSDAD

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Stretch depends on the strain. My sativas streched a lot as they usually do, but the indicas remained short and stout. Just do as you would normally do and they should be fine.
 
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Hazuki

Member
Ok thanks. Now that I thought about it I think it wouldn't make sense to let them longer in veg anyway. The money we save with 12-1 would go to waste with a longer veg phase.
Btw how much are you guys paying for one kw/h? Here in Germany it's fucking expensive! We must pay at least 21 euro cents for each kw/h! :-(
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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too lazy to read the whole thread..maybe I'm just fucking lazy but I'm not going to implement so screw ball veg lighting cycle. For what its worth... RESEARCH, yes real research has shown a significant decline in THC production with less than 10 hours of light.

For whatever its worth, my flower schedule mimics canna wizards

13 on- 11 off
12 on - 12 off
11 on- 13 off

harvest,trim, bleach room, get a massage, throw a bunch of cash at strippers, and then start the whole process over again.
 
ChronicClouds

ChronicClouds

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skunkushybrid01 said:
i'm not saying it wil not make you rplants grow... i just don't see the point. there are no scientific explanations in this thread whatsoever. nor any links to such a thing... even when asked to provide these links i get shown something where somebody else is simply saying it works cos they've done it.

I fail to see how giving a plant less light will make that plant grow better. as i've stated before... everything the plant does with the lights down it also does while they are on.
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What is so hard to understand that it is working for them??? It doesn't matter if you don't understand it or fail to see the point! FOR FUCKS SAKE!! Move on!
And how is there no scientific proof when these people are running the experiment? That's science and that's proof. You don't need a phd or lab coat to run an experiment. It's great you fail to see i personally don't give a shit and am tired of reading your crybaby crap. If you need more 'scientific proof' google it!
 
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