12.10.2012 Colorado Legal Today

Harrekin

Harrekin

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fb360 said:
10k watts is not much... Thats what I would consider to be personal between a family.
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I suspect Chesus's Little-boy-wife won't let him go any bigger in his grow, that's why he hates on people with lots of wattage.

He also claims he's never engaged in commerce related to cannabis, well either that or he's a total fucking hypocrite.

Free the weed for all adults, whether they want to buy it, sell it, grow it, smoke it or trade it.

Taxes will get paid, tourists will come, everyone will have an awesome time.
 
fb360

fb360

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Harrekin said:
Free the weed for all adults, whether they want to buy it, sell it, grow it, smoke it or trade it.

Taxes will get paid, tourists will come, everyone will have an awesome time.
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hell yeah. If i was in colorado I would be twisting up 2g blunts all day long just for practice. I might occasionally puff one or two and stash the rest. If weed was legal, I would view it as a commodity worth almost no value, not that I view it much different now. I would care about how much I used and what not, for I would be legally growing it.

UncleBuck said:
i provide for myself with a third of that.

that kind of wattage would lend itself to regulation and taxation, as would any commercial enterprise, whether carrots or beer or cannabis.
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I editted out that I think it would be personal for a family. If you look, Harrakin got it before I did.

Furthermore, I meant a family that had spare for relatives and friends, etc.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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UncleBuck said:
i provide for myself with a third of that.

that kind of wattage would lend itself to regulation and taxation, as would any commercial enterprise, whether carrots or beer or cannabis.
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That sort of wattage should be totally legal and fine until the point of sale.

Should the Govt limit the amount of carrots you can grow? No, but they should tax you if you start to sell them.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Harrekin said:
That sort of wattage should be totally legal and fine until the point of sale.

Should the Govt limit the amount of carrots you can grow? No, but they should tax you if you start to sell them.
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my point exactly. agreed 100%.

i just can't imagine a 10,000 watt grow being personal. do you have any idea how many pounds per year a competent grower can produce with 10k watts?
 
fb360

fb360

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UncleBuck said:
my point exactly. agreed 100%.

i just can't imagine a 10,000 watt grow being personal. do you have any idea how many pounds per year a competent grower can produce with 10k watts?
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Did you read my post... I said family. I know many who live with their parents.

But yeah, with 10k watts you could easily get 36lbs a year. Well more than one person could fully consume. I also stated that I would pretty much throw away weed. I would hit a green bowl and cash it. I would throw away half blunt, etc etc
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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fb360 said:
I editted out that I think it would be personal for a family. If you look, Harrakin got it before I did.

Furthermore, I meant a family that had spare for relatives and friends, etc.
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when i say i provide for myself, i mean in ways beyond being able to consume whatever absurd amounts of cannabis i may wish. i mean it butters my bread and keeps a roof overhead.
 
fb360

fb360

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UncleBuck said:
when i say i provide for myself, i mean in ways beyond being able to consume whatever absurd amounts of cannabis i may wish. i mean it butters my bread and keeps a roof overhead.
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Okay. And still 10k should be acceptable, as you have already also agreed with.

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I agree that it would most likely lend itself to taxation, but not inherently as you suggest.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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fb360 said:
Okay. And still 10k should be acceptable, as you have already also agreed with.

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I agree that it would most likely lend itself to taxation, but not inherently as you suggest.
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exactly. 10k watts alone would not equal automatic taxation, but the natural result of how much you would produce with that type of wattage makes it all but inevitable.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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UncleBuck said:
exactly. 10k watts alone would not equal automatic taxation, but the natural result of how much you would produce with that type of wattage makes it all but inevitable.
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If it was legal I'd use 10,000 watts and process all of it into hash just for myself. Different strains together. Blends ARE THE FUTURE!!

:D
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Harrekin said:
If it was legal I'd use 10,000 watts and process all of it into hash just for myself. Different strains together. Blends ARE THE FUTURE!!

:D
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a mediocre grower like myself will get about 1/2 gram per watt on average.

suppose you veg with 2k and flower with 8k. that's 4000 grams per harvest, with about 5 harvests every year.

20k grams = 44 pounds per year.

suppose a family of 5 is living off that weed. that means every member of the family goes through 3/8 of an ounce per day ((8.8 x 454)/365).

that would mean 22 pounds per year for my wife and me. that is almost an ounce per day per person.

unless you're attempting to suffocate yourself in weed, 10k watts will produce more than two people can reasonably smoke, much less one person.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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UncleBuck said:
a mediocre grower like myself will get about 1/2 gram per watt on average.

suppose you veg with 2k and flower with 8k. that's 4000 grams per harvest, with about 5 harvests every year.

20k grams = 44 pounds per year.

suppose a family of 5 is living off that weed. that means every member of the family goes through 3/8 of an ounce per day ((8.8 x 454)/365).

that would mean 22 pounds per year for my wife and me. that is almost an ounce per day per person.

unless you're attempting to suffocate yourself in weed, 10k watts will produce more than two people can reasonably smoke, much less one person.
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Divide it by 10 (roughly) for a decent full melt yield.

2kg of hash would do me and mine for the year ;)
 
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ChesusRice

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Harrekin said:
Nah, Chesus is cool, just some of his viewpoints are retarded.

Legal to grow but not legal to sell is his viewpoint...yet what he fails to realise is at some stage I might want/need to go to the store and buy some, maybe try a strain before growing it, yet his viewpoint is as restrictive as prohibition to someone who cannot grow/sold all theirs/isn't bothered growing.

His viewpoint as usual suits himself and noone else, yet he claims to be a "liberal".

Weed should be for everyone (except kids)!!
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And I agree with you. but how would making it legal to possess and grow illegal to sell deny you your weed?
 
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ChesusRice

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Harrekin said:
I suspect Chesus's Little-boy-wife won't let him go any bigger in his grow, that's why he hates on people with lots of wattage.

He also claims he's never engaged in commerce related to cannabis, well either that or he's a total fucking hypocrite.

Free the weed for all adults, whether they want to buy it, sell it, grow it, smoke it or trade it.

Taxes will get paid, tourists will come, everyone will have an awesome time.
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I dont grow
 
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spandy

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Obviously basing the limits on wattage would be the wrong way to go for reasons already mentioned.

I would rather throw down a much higher watt grow and only have to grow once a year, or maybe once every couple years, so a 10-20k watt grow would be very appealing to me.

And who the fuck wants to get taxed on this stuff? Really, you want to give those douche bags more money to waste? Barter that shit, fuck their taxes.
 
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spandy

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ChesusRice said:
And I agree with you. but how would making it legal to possess and grow illegal to sell deny you your weed?
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What if you can't grow for whatever reasons and dont know anyone willing to give it to you, what do those people do? They are gonna have to buy it somewhere aren't they?
 
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