12/12 Switcheroo.

PimboBitches

PimboBitches

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Hey all,

I'm currently in week 4 of my second attempted grow. I decided to try the 12/12 from seed method in order to reduce the Veg stage to the minimum possible as I'm not really overly concerned about massive yields at this stage. Current growth is lack lustre, not surpisingly but I had expected to be further along than where I am now. (~4 inches tall, 5th set of true leaves)

My current understanding is that flowering will only ever occur when the plant is mature enough to do, so would there be any real issues with switching into the traditional 18/6 20/4 cycles normally used to boost growth a little before switching back?

Cheers :)
 
Budgoro88

Budgoro88

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Flowering occurs with the light cycle wether the plant wants to flower or not it will so it's either 12/12 or 11/13 or 18/6 or 20/4 you can play with veg times but you don't want to mess with flowering lots people go from seed straight to flower
 
PimboBitches

PimboBitches

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Budgoro88 said:
Flowering occurs with the light cycle wether the plant wants to flower or not it will so it's either 12/12 or 11/13 or 18/6 or 20/4 you can play with veg times but you don't want to mess with flowering lots people go from seed straight to flower
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Thanks, just to clarify a little though so I'm understanding you. There currently isn't any indications that the plant has entered the flowering stage I.e pistils showing. So I don't think I'm switching between flowering into veg, only modifying the current daylight hours. Don't want to stress it out too much though so unsure as to whether or not to leave things as they are on 12/12 and deal with the reduced growth rate. Any thoughts?
 
HydoDan

HydoDan

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You are definitely in the experimental stages of becoming a grower. So Experiment!! Try running 14/10 then go to 16/8. Or just run 24/0. There are no definite answers to your questions. You can keep them at 12/12. Experiment, watch your plants and learn what they are telling you. You can actually re generate a flowered plant using 24/0.
 
PimboBitches

PimboBitches

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HydoDan said:
You are definitely in the experimental stages of becoming a grower. So Experiment!! Try running 14/10 then go to 16/8. Or just run 24/0. There are no definite answers to your questions. You can keep them at 12/12. Experiment, watch your plants and learn what they are telling you. You can actually re generate a flowered plant using 24/0.
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Hey. Thanks, Im enjoying the process so far but not convinced of 12/12 from seed. Glad to have tried it though. Next seedling is getting hit with 24/0 to see the difference.
 
HydoDan

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PimboBitches said:
Hey. Thanks, Im enjoying the process so far but not convinced of 12/12 from seed. Glad to have tried it though. Next seedling is getting hit with 24/0 to see the difference.
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Yeah I wasn't too impressed when I tried 12/12 from seed.. 6 plants = 6 buds=.Not much!! Three weeks of 24/0 should do the job. Good luck
 
Budgoro88

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If this is your 2nd grow learn the fundamentals you can do all of these things mentioned above wether the plant shows sex or not once entered into the 12 /12 light cycle hormones in the plant are changing there's many things you can experiment with but how can you experiment when you only have one grow under your belt be careful of info some people give learn the basics get many grows under your belt once you grasp the basics then experiment if you start experimenting now you won't know if it's working because you won't know what a basic one provides you with good luck and cheers bro
 
HydoDan

HydoDan

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Budgoro88 said:
If this is your 2nd grow learn the fundamentals you can do all of these things mentioned above wether the plant shows sex or not once entered into the 12 /12 light cycle hormones in the plant are changing there's many things you can experiment with but how can you experiment when you only have one grow under your belt be careful of info some people give learn the basics get many grows under your belt once you grasp the basics then experiment if you start experimenting now you won't know if it's working because you won't know what a basic one provides you with good luck and cheers bro
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If you don't experiment you can't learn. Every grow is different if you treat them all the same your plants will suffer!!
 
PimboBitches

PimboBitches

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Budgoro88 said:
If this is your 2nd grow learn the fundamentals you can do all of these things mentioned above wether the plant shows sex or not once entered into the 12 /12 light cycle hormones in the plant are changing there's many things you can experiment with but how can you experiment when you only have one grow under your belt be careful of info some people give learn the basics get many grows under your belt once you grasp the basics then experiment if you start experimenting now you won't know if it's working because you won't know what a basic one provides you with good luck and cheers bro
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Cheers man, my first grow had to be destroyed 2 weeks into flowering for security reasons. But I was quite happy with how a cautious approach, keeping to regular light schedules and nutrient mix produced a decently built plant. This is meant to be GWS and my first grow was WR so hoping there remains a degree of similarity. Growing one plant at a time means trying to keep things different I think.
 
oscaroscar

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If it's in flower light schedule now it'll be producing hormones that tell the plant to grow buds. If you swap it to veg light schedule you'll confuse it. It'll grow a load of single bladed leaves and no branches until it reverts back to veg then you'll have to start flowering again.
I would just leave it at 12/12 for this go. You should only experiment when you know exactly what will happen if you don't experiment. Otherwise the results will be meaningless without that baseline.
A cutting taken even five days into flower will have weird growth so the plant is changing before anything is visible.
 
Budgoro88

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HydoDan said:
If you don't experiment you can't learn. Every grow is different if you treat them all the same your plants will suffer!!
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If you don't learn to grow first what is he going to experiment there's nothing to compare results to
 
Budgoro88

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PimboBitches said:
Cheers man, my first grow had to be destroyed 2 weeks into flowering for security reasons. But I was quite happy with how a cautious approach, keeping to regular light schedules and nutrient mix produced a decently built plant. This is meant to be GWS and my first grow was WR so hoping there remains a degree of similarity. Growing one plant at a time means trying to keep things different I think.
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Sorry bout the first grow shit happens I been there before hardest thing ever isn't it get some grows under your belt grasp the idea and your strategy of growing that works for your conditions then experiment to make it better I grew for couple years before I started experimenting I'll never steer you wrong cheers
 
HydoDan

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oscaroscar said:
You grow them all the same and get it right there are no problems
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Grow 6 strains in the same room.. if you grow them all the same,. some will thrive while others don't. Experimentation is the Motherhood of all knowledge!!!!!! Or just go online and get a general consensus on how to grow a weed!!! Debate over!!!
 
T

THE KONASSURE

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PimboBitches said:
Hey all,

I'm currently in week 4 of my second attempted grow. I decided to try the 12/12 from seed method in order to reduce the Veg stage to the minimum possible as I'm not really overly concerned about massive yields at this stage. Current growth is lack lustre, not surpisingly but I had expected to be further along than where I am now. (~4 inches tall, 5th set of true leaves)

My current understanding is that flowering will only ever occur when the plant is mature enough to do, so would there be any real issues with switching into the traditional 18/6 20/4 cycles normally used to boost growth a little before switching back?

Cheers :)
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If you go 18/6 or 20/4 or 24

then when you switch to 12/12 or 10/14 or 8/16 the plant will normally sex and flower faster than if you start the seed at 12/12 and leave it at 12/12 till its done

you just do 18/6 or whatever for 2 weeks, and swap it to 10/14 that`s the fastest way to flower

12/12 from seed depends on gentics some indicas and autos may flower in a 2 weeks (maybe) and sativa`s can take ages

plus if a plant sexes up under 18+ hours of blue heavy light then when you drop it under 12 and give it red light its going to flower hard, part of veg is to select and weed out the shitty ones
 
oscaroscar

oscaroscar

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HydoDan said:
Grow 6 strains in the same room.. if you grow them all the same,. some will thrive while others don't. Experimentation is the Motherhood of all knowledge!!!!!! Or just go online and get a general consensus on how to grow a weed!!! Debate over!!!
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Who said anything about different strains?
The same plant the same way. There's no point growing a sativa the same as an indica.
You need a baseline with the same plant then you can experiment with the same plant. I mean clones not seeds.
If you get it right and repeat what you did then you'll get the same results.
ALL experiments need a baseline or the results are pointless.
 
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PimboBitches

PimboBitches

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Thanks to everyone for responding. I switched onto 20/4 cycle and topped the fucker, after a slow day we're making good progress again. Thinking to veg out for a limited period and then make the switch again. On a tight timeline unfortunately.
 
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