12 days left, bananas appearing ?

petedav said:

no my clones are fem white berry from paradise seeds i got the mother in seperate rooms i also got white widow mother aswell thats what i was saying my little cuttins arent so little and need 2 get them in the flowering room but that white label white skunk is taking up all my room ha.

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petedav,

Forgive me if I ramble but I'm a little baked.

Why do you need to get them in the flowering room so quickly? Couldn't you keep them vegging with the mother plants for a little longer?

If you're worried about their eventual final height you could always try FIMing or LSTing them. There's several good tutorials on the forums about those techniques. I plan on experimenting with them on a couple of plants on my next grow.

Another technique I'll definetly be trying on several plants on my next run will be to follow "Uncle Ben's" method for "pinching for 4 main colas". If you're not aware of his posts on these forums I recommend you search out and read what he has to stay about growing. In fact I'd have to say he's my current growing guru.

I've been stumbling along for several years now with an old copy of Ed Rosenthal's Closet Cultivator. While I've gotten to the point where I can raise what I think is some pretty high quality and tasty smoke my yields have been no where near what they could be. In fact my New Years resolution is to get at least twice the yield with half as many plants in a grow.

One thing I think I've been doing wrong is rushing the veg stage a little to much. Of course my goal has kind of been to grow a crop as fast as possible. And I've got it down to about 110 days from seed in the dirt to harvest. But, I've only been getting an average of just under a 1/2 oz. per plant yield of cured bud. And all things considered at this point I think I'd rather put in a little more time on each grow (say around 140 to 150 days) and get a lot heavier yield. And from what I've been reading and seeing in these forums I don't think that's an unrealistic goal.

Since it seems I ought to wrap this up with some kind of advice I'll just tell you to try and not over fret about what you're doing. Sometimes you just have to let play out what you've got going and see where it ends up. And then make some tweaks to the methodology on the next attempt at it.

Ye god's man, but I'm toasted. hahaha!

Jack

IAm5toned said:

and another thing to consider is if you cloned them from the same mother your having hermi probs with, the clones will have the same traits...

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youare5toned,

Cool trick you got with that little virtual bug crawling on your post. I thought it was one of my actual fungus nats and tried to squish it. And that just showed me that I really need to clean my monitor screen.

Man I've got a serious infestation of those critters. When my current grow finally gets harvested, dried and jarred up I'm gonna have to do a serious whole house fumigating before starting any thing else. Fuck oh dear man, I'm probably gonna have to use a combination of DDT, Zyklon B and Agent Orange to get rid of them.

But back to the banana thing. Is this really a true "hermi" problem? Won't pretty much any strain tend to throw out these bananas late in flowering if left to mature long enough?

While my experience with growing different strains is pretty limited I usually seem to get these things showing up late in flowering. And the better the plant the more they seem to tend to show up.

When I started out and was just growing from random bag seed I had a hell of a time with plants that started out indicating female and then mid way thru flowering would sprout clusters of typical male flowers down lower on the bottom half of the plant. I tried to pick them off but they were so numerous and put out so much pollen before I could get them all off (and the fan blew it around) that I ended up with a crop just full of half developed immature seeds. And that to me is way worse than having a few mature seeds. I got a few of those also but just threw them out because I figured they carried that hermie gene.

Those bananas that show up late in flowering have never caused me to get a mature seed on a plant. At worst I've only gotten just a very few immature seeds here and there now and then. But nothing I ever considered as degrading to the overall quality.

As best I can recall, in the past I've always harvested a plant with in two weeks of the bananas showing up. But from some of my reading here (especially fdd's tutorial on harvesting) I'm thinking I may have tended to harvest a little earlier than I should have.

50% of my plants are showing a couple of bananas right now. But I've got one that's just got an exceptionally high number of them (40 or more). And the strange thing is that it's probably one of the plants that's the least closest to harvest. I'm guessing that it might need at least another 2 to 3 weeks to get to the point where fdd would think it's ready to harvest. I tweezed a bunch of them off it earlier today but I think I'm gonna just quite worrying about it, leave it alone and see what happens. I'm think I'm even gonna try to let it go past it's prime as much as possible just by way of an experiment.

Jack

looks overwatered

bchboy147 said:

looks overwatered

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well to every 1 thats helped me in this thread thanks,your all top guys and i cut her last night she still full of nutes whats the best way 2 dry it lol

Doesn't self pollinated females make feminized seeds??

petedav said:

well to every 1 thats helped me in this thread thanks,your all top guys and i cut her last night she still full of nutes whats the best way 2 dry it lol

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At least you didn't have to be patient for 12 more days. Hope you aren't dissapointed with the final product

brasmith said:

At least you didn't have to be patient for 12 more days. Hope you aren't dissapointed with the final product

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i hope so
i will let you all know when she dry lol.
a couple pics for use all +rep

if you look at mine (transexual or mutant) post it may help

seasmoke said:

Doesn't self pollinated females make feminized seeds??

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yeah you are right seasmoke, hermi's always makes 100% feminized seeds. thats why i dont kill them(you could use the seeds in the futere). but it's always ur own choise if u let it grow or chop her BALLS OFF!!! lol

peace brovas

petedav said:

i hope so
i will let you all know when she dry lol.
a couple pics for use all +rep

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petedav,

Congratulations man. That's way better looking stuff than I got on my first couple of attempts. It's kind of hard to tell for sure from your pictures but it kind of looks like it could have benefitted from going another week or two. But what the hell I'm sure you're gonna enjoy it after you get it dried and cured. I'm guessing that one you're holding laying up your forearm is gonna yield about 10 to 12 grams of cured bud.

After I pick and trim (to look real similar to what you just did) I weigh it. I know from past record keeping that it will cure out to a final weight of around 20 to 22% of that.

I harvested 16.5 oz. of fresh bud yesterday and am expecting it to yield around 3.3 oz after it's dried and I get it off the last of that big main stem.

I've got more plants to harvest but they'll be getting picked over the next week or so as they get there. I might even have a couple that go as long as another 3 weeks. I'll just have to wait, watch them and see.

I fast dried a small bud in the microwave for testing purposes and while the taste was pretty green I got a nice pleasing energetic buzz off of it.

After getting done with my gardening and harvesting/trimming duties I headed up to my local bar for happy hour. The person I sat down next to took one sniff and asked me if I'd gotten sprayed by a skunk. Oh man, I guess I just reeked of weed but I'd been in the thick of the stink and handled so much fresh bud while trimming for so long (and was high too) that I'd ceased to notice it.

By way of an excuse I put it off on my dog telling the person that he'd recently tangled with one and I was wearing the same clothes I had on while washing him. Poor little guy, it's not the first time I've had to lay one of my fuck ups off on him.

Lesson learned... Don't wear your gardening clothes out in public. From now on I've got one pair of sweats that are gonna be my dedicated gardening/ weed handling uniform that won't get worn out side the house.

Besides it's not a good idea to wear your out side clothes and shoes into your indoor garden around your plants. That's a good way to introduce something (mold and fungus spores, aphides, spider mites, etc) you don't want in there. Better safe than sorry where those things are concerned.

I guess the perfect solution would be to do all your gardening naked and shower before and after. I know that sounds a little extreme but think about it. It might also work as a good excuse to get the wife or girl friend naked.

Jack

realbud said:

yeah you are right seasmoke, hermi's always makes 100% feminized seeds. thats why i dont kill them(you could use the seeds in the futere). but it's always ur own choise if u let it grow or chop her BALLS OFF!!! lol

peace brovas

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the seeds may be feminized but they have a much greater chance of carrying the hermi trait and are apt to go hermie themselves much more easialy than they would if you feminized them with other methods

Isn't there two main kind of herm? The one thats genetic and herms during early flower, and the other, that senses the end and then puts out the bananas....The first one will continue to have geneticly inbred herm trats, while the other will have mainly fem seeds. Is that correct?

mkay420 said:

the seeds may be feminized but they have a much greater chance of carrying the hermi trait and are apt to go hermie themselves much more easialy than they would if you feminized them with other methods

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how would it matter what way they were made hermi? stress is stress, whether it be forced hermi with acids to reverse sex or thru environmental stress(light leak and so forth) please explain....I'm not trying to start shit, but curious how it makes a difference.