12000 watt gavita DE pro line e series slim line grow

beneficialife11

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2klude said:
Nice setup... following along and looking forward to updates.

I notice the plants at the back of the room in your walkway. How are they developing in comparison to the plants directly under the lights? They look a little smaller but not sure if everything in that room is the same age.

I also run a semi sealed room but only run the exhaust when the lights are out. I have my exhaust hooked up to a humidity sensor so it only comes on when lights go out and there a spike in humidity. It works great paired with a burner as it will remove any "off gasing" from the burner, quickly lowers the humidity spike so my dehumidifier doesn't have to work to hard, and clears out the excess co2. I vent mainly to deal with the humidity at lights out... i'm not 100% its needed but its a fail safe if the burner does decide to start fail and put off some nasty uncombusted NG.

In your setup the only thing I would change is ditch the wall banger and get another 36k mini-split and your all set to seal that room up. Get a burner, not bottled and run your current exhaust hooked up to a humidity sensor. Your gonna love not having to swap bottles and its gonna be cheaper. If you can tap into a NG line for the burner even better.
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Thanks for the advice!!! I got another 1000 square foot ag building I want to insulate and put 15-20 lights in so I may invest in that first insulating and what not before putting another split in this room. Its amazing how cool the room is. My split because of the cold ass oregon mountain air coming in dosnt even need to click on. Right now im @ 70F with lights @ 105% lights go out at 6 am, I set an alarm and go in and manually turn off my intake just run exhuast and turn split to heat mode. I'm so used to doing everything manual by hand with deps I need to remember I can automate things! I'm really happy with this set up my first run ever and first indoor. The plants are some of the healthiest im with them everyday. They stretched like 2 inches over night and the buds are really forming. The height will be perfect . Its gonna be close I can tell where they are at and how far in that the tops will end up around 30inches below I'm gonna wave to definitely weave the tops. I think I have decided to keep it simple and just not run c02. I believe I can still have above average results due to my plant knowledge and expirence. I love strains like this that just almost quadruple on flip very OG like. I don't see why I need c02 at the moment, if I install it I won't be able to run my lights at 1150watts and ill have heat issues due to having to run no intake as my intake really cools the room I'm suprised. My goal is 2.5-3 a light with c02 i know it sounds cocky but I have hit record numbers in dep with my methods over a zip per square foot. With indoor I know I can almost double that. The top dress I did is really strong and killer it was introduced week 1 of veg so plenty of time to break down and leech into super soil. My buddy runs a hydro set up and trash talks my methods. I'm loyal to the soil. Build good soil good soil food web and organic IPM. You cannot beat it.
 
beneficialife11

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2klude said:
Nice setup... following along and looking forward to updates.

I notice the plants at the back of the room in your walkway. How are they developing in comparison to the plants directly under the lights? They look a little smaller but not sure if everything in that room is the same age.

I also run a semi sealed room but only run the exhaust when the lights are out. I have my exhaust hooked up to a humidity sensor so it only comes on when lights go out and there a spike in humidity. It works great paired with a burner as it will remove any "off gasing" from the burner, quickly lowers the humidity spike so my dehumidifier doesn't have to work to hard, and clears out the excess co2. I vent mainly to deal with the humidity at lights out... i'm not 100% its needed but its a fail safe if the burner does decide to start fail and put off some nasty uncombusted NG.

In your setup the only thing I would change is ditch the wall banger and get another 36k mini-split and your all set to seal that room up. Get a burner, not bottled and run your current exhaust hooked up to a humidity sensor. Your gonna love not having to swap bottles and its gonna be cheaper. If you can tap into a NG line for the burner even better.
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Also those plants are random seed starts alot of tga gear. Cherry lemonade, raspberry jelly, strawberry daiquiri, huckleberry cookies,
 
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newbplantgrower420 said:
Im in w4 and want to try out bumping to 1150w for maximum fire power. do you adjust your EC/ppm when going up that high or keep it where youre at while on 1kw?
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I dont really feed a salt based regimen. I essentially am a pure super soil guy with top dressing. I do use some liquid salt based ferts but its just to give them that extra push. Essentially I'll feed real lightly less is more in my book with running super living soil where you have a hot mix where the substrate already has the base nutrients in it from raw organic imputs. The plant never has to do without its base nutrients requirements. At that point its more about building up the microbial life. The common misconception is people think the more nutrients the better the harder you push them.with your ppms the better maybe this is true with hydro idk. But the more microbial life and the better the soil food web the more nutrients can be uptake at the rhizosphere. My view is that plants evolved evolutionary to grow in soil without salt based ferts. I do use PK boosters and additives and some salts very lightly as the moderate use does not damage the soil and theres never any excess build up in the soil shredding my microbial life. Think about this the plant has its basic nutrient requirements just like people or animals we need a certain amount of amino acids nutrients and vitamins to be healthy too little we develop sickness too much and it throws our systems out of whack. People think the more nutrients the better its not that way. So for me my best results have been with organic super soil and top dresses with light feeds 600ppm max and.
 
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This up coming Saturday will be 3 weeks. Yea these are still stretching like crazy. They are going to end up perfectly right around 30 inches below lights. Its gonna be absolutely perfect first indoor ever first run of first indoor and also first time running the GMO. Thankfully I had data and a good intuition and knew exactly when to flip.
 
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Okay folks here are some updates tomorrow is 3 weeks since flip. They are still stretching like crazy flowers are forming now little early formations that are starting to take shape. Still no c02, temps are still in the same range. A little cooler honestly max 70F-71F with night times around 64-68F. Yesterday was the 12th and last night I watered in soul bloom, microblast, true blooms, more liquid bone meal, sugars, mykos, and a dash of beastie blooms. PPMS were 570 going in. I have another foot i can spare of height before it gets dicey so let's all hope they don't stretch more then another foot. 3rd layer of trellis going on 2night and we will weave tops in needed. 20201112_190813.jpg20201112_202728.jpg
 

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Love small personal grows, lol, wow man you have some set up there, wouldn't fancy hand watering though.
I would imagine being insulated with 'kingspan/cellotex' type stuff. your room would be dripping water from the ceiling with that many plants on the go.
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Heyo thanks for the reply bud! Last night pruned even harder to get air flow and movement and access for spraying under canopy. Hitting them with a bunch of met 52 and armory and serenade for mold prevention. I soaked all 180 gallon pots with 300 gallons of feed. Then I throw my dehums on and I have no problem with spikes. Maybe it'll hit 70% for 2 hours then goes back down to 55-60 and at that time I increase my temps to around 74F during the higher spike after watering. I got floor blowers for moving air under canopy. On the ground. So I understand my biggest battle will be keeping RH is check and enough air flow. My intake and outtake rush fresh air through the room at all times. Cept I turn my intake off at night just run outake and dehums. My room is sealed and there is no condensation or moisture coming threw or dripping on my plants.20201121_203036.jpg
megamouthuk said:
Love small personal grows, lol, wow man you have some set up there, wouldn't fancy hand watering though.
I would imagine being insulated with 'kingspan/cellotex' type stuff. your room would be dripping water from the ceiling with that many plants on the go.
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The Boerboel is beautiful... I've got a male brindle Bullmastiff, 140#, 18 months old and still filling out.
 
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Killing it man. Where does your intake pull from? Directly outside? I'm finishing up my second room and gonna air cool for the winter, it's really cold here most of winter, still trying to decide if wanna pull from utility room in the building or directly from outside. Worried about condensation on the ducting and saw you said you didn't have any problems with it.

I've got 2 x12 inch fans one to bring air in and one to take air out. So far I'm thinking of just using the utility room as a lung room and pulling from there with the intake fan so it's not like -10 degree air being blown in.
 
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Killing it man. Where does your intake pull from? Directly outside? I'm finishing up my second room and gonna air cool for the winter, it's really cold here most of winter, still trying to decide if wanna pull from utility room in the building or directly from outside. Worried about condensation on the ducting and saw you said you didn't have any problems with it.

I've got 2 x12 inch fans one to bring air in and one to take air out. So far I'm thinking of just using the utility room as a lung room and pulling from there with the intake fan so it's not like -10 degree air being blown in.
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So my building is a garage it has a normal bay door then in front a framed wall with osb and insulation so the vortex pulls in air from between then wall and the garage door so not directly from outside but still cold air. I get a tiny bit of condensation but only on really cool night where its in the 20s. Usually are lows arent that cold southern oregon mountains we get a winter but its very mild compared to colorado or regions that see single digit lows. Just 3 weeks ago it was in the 70s! With lights on and intake raging and dehum going my RH is around low 60s. During lights off intake turns off and mini split warms room to 65ish to 68ish max with an RH in the 50s at lights off with exhuast running and intake turned off. Before I pruned and plants were all natural there was a bit of pm starting very lightly to a trained eye you wouldn't be able to tell but since I pruned and added a better dehum and got floor blowers it won't be an issue and has stopped.
 
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Apalchen said:
Killing it man. Where does your intake pull from? Directly outside? I'm finishing up my second room and gonna air cool for the winter, it's really cold here most of winter, still trying to decide if wanna pull from utility room in the building or directly from outside. Worried about condensation on the ducting and saw you said you didn't have any problems with it.

I've got 2 x12 inch fans one to bring air in and one to take air out. So far I'm thinking of just using the utility room as a lung room and pulling from there with the intake fan so it's not like -10 degree air being blown in.
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