150w HPS power consumption

PJ Diaz

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Just some no-name magnetic I got at a local hydroponics shop, I only measured my 250W, not my 400W...but they both appear to be the same no-name brand, I expect similar results.

My kill-a-watt actually tells me the PF but i did not note that value, I just saw the ballast started consuming a low wattage from power on, and worked its way up to "fully lit" @ 249W or so...
Whatever your specifics are, it's an anomaly. Perhaps you should use an actual amp meter combined with a voltage meter and do the calculations yourself. That's how real electricians do it.
 

budbro18

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5 is the perfect amount for me. As it's only a personal grow and to share(for free) with friends.
I'll also supplement the HPS with a few 6500k CFL's no doubt, as HPS is mainly red spectrum, correct?
thatll be perfect 2-4 of em around the base and lower buds of the plants would really help. do you plan to do any training or just 12/12 from seed

also what strain???
 

nonamedman420

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im sorry, but lights are rated at bulb wattage... the ballast does indeed pull watts also... instead of assuming, buy a kill-a-watt from radio shack for $15 and see for yourself. my 70 watt pulls 80, and my 600 pulls 640 watts on 600w, 480 watts on 450w, and 360 watts on 300w setting
 

hsfkush

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thatll be perfect 2-4 of em around the base and lower buds of the plants would really help. do you plan to do any training or just 12/12 from seed

also what strain???
It'll just be 12/12 from seed like I have been doing. I'm not sure which strain I'll be doing first as I plan to make a fairly big order of seeds to last me for a long time(I don't do/know cloning).

I've got a list of about 30 different strains in mind, although I'll only be ordering about 4 different strains. I will definitely be buying Green Poison(Sweet Seeds), Strawberry D-Lite(Sagamartha) and Northern Lights(Nirvana). I'm really considering getting Blue Dream(HSO) as a 4th option.

But if you'd like to see this list I have, then here it is...(It's long and copy/pasted from a text doc)

Cherry
Cherry OG
Sour Cherry
Sour Cherry Kush
CherryFuel
Red Cherry Berry


Strawberry
Fire Alien Strawberry
Strawberry D-Lite
Strawberry Blue
Strawberry Cough

Lemon
Amnesia Lemon
Lemon Skunk
Lemon Diesel
Lemonator
Lemon Bud
Lemon OG
Sour Lemon OG
Super Lemon Haze

Raspberry
Raspberry Mandarin
Raspberry Cough

Grape
Golden Grapefruit
Mendo Grape Kush
Grapefruit
Jamaican Grape
Sour Grape Kush
Orange Grapefruit
Grape Krush
Grapefruit Krush
Grapefruit Diesel
Super Iced Grapefruit
Grapegod
Blue Grape Dream
Red Grapefruit
Sweet Deep Grapefruit

Orange
Agent Orange
Orange
California Orange Skunk
Orange Tangerine
Orange Light
California Orange
California Orange Bud
The Royal Orange

Pineapple
Pineapple Express
Pineapple Punch
Pineapple Funk
Pineapple Skunk
Pineapple Chunk

Chocolate
Chocolate Kush
Chocolate Skunk
Chocolope
Chocolate Chunk
Chocolope Kush

Yes, they are categorised by "flavour" :D Lol, I have an OCD about keeping everything categorised :P
 

budbro18

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It'll just be 12/12 from seed like I have been doing. I'm not sure which strain I'll be doing first as I plan to make a fairly big order of seeds to last me for a long time(I don't do/know cloning).

I've got a list of about 30 different strains in mind, although I'll only be ordering about 4 different strains. I will definitely be buying Green Poison(Sweet Seeds), Strawberry D-Lite(Sagamartha) and Northern Lights(Nirvana). I'm really considering getting Blue Dream(HSO) as a 4th option.

But if you'd like to see this list I have, then here it is...(It's long and copy/pasted from a text doc)

Cherry
Cherry OG
Sour Cherry
Sour Cherry Kush
CherryFuel
Red Cherry Berry


Strawberry
Fire Alien Strawberry
Strawberry D-Lite
Strawberry Blue
Strawberry Cough

Lemon
Amnesia Lemon
Lemon Skunk
Lemon Diesel
Lemonator
Lemon Bud
Lemon OG
Sour Lemon OG
Super Lemon Haze

Raspberry
Raspberry Mandarin
Raspberry Cough

Grape
Golden Grapefruit
Mendo Grape Kush
Grapefruit
Jamaican Grape
Sour Grape Kush
Orange Grapefruit
Grape Krush
Grapefruit Krush
Grapefruit Diesel
Super Iced Grapefruit
Grapegod
Blue Grape Dream
Red Grapefruit
Sweet Deep Grapefruit

Orange
Agent Orange
Orange
California Orange Skunk
Orange Tangerine
Orange Light
California Orange
California Orange Bud
The Royal Orange

Pineapple
Pineapple Express
Pineapple Punch
Pineapple Funk
Pineapple Skunk
Pineapple Chunk

Chocolate
Chocolate Kush
Chocolate Skunk
Chocolope
Chocolate Chunk
Chocolope Kush

Yes, they are categorised by "flavour" :D Lol, I have an OCD about keeping everything categorised :P

haha those sound like some good strains. Ive always loved blue dream but never wanted to get anything less than a clone so i havent fucked with it personally.

So out of these strains heres what i think:




  • Strawberry
    Strawberry Cough

    Lemon
    Lemon Skunk
    Super Lemon Haze

    Grape
    Mendo Grape Kush
    Sour Grape Kush
    Grapegod

    Orange
    Agent Orange

    Pineapple
    Pineapple Chunk​




As for all of these ive personally grown Lemon Skunk by Green House as a freebie and it did well. Also Reserva Privadas Pineapple Chunk did pretty well. Dense solid sticky buds.

But out of all of those my favorite has been the GRAPE GOD!!! by Next Generation. I have a grow journal of it in my signature and it is a wonderful strain. Decent producer, super strong and resin filled, amazing taste, and wonderful density. It grew nice and christmas tree like. with short indica leaves but theyre skinny like sativas.

Check out the journal before you decide.

What site do you plan to order off of??
 

hsfkush

Well-Known Member
haha those sound like some good strains. Ive always loved blue dream but never wanted to get anything less than a clone so i havent fucked with it personally.

So out of these strains heres what i think:




  • Strawberry
    Strawberry Cough

    Lemon
    Lemon Skunk
    Super Lemon Haze

    Grape
    Mendo Grape Kush
    Sour Grape Kush
    Grapegod

    Orange
    Agent Orange

    Pineapple
    Pineapple Chunk​


As for all of these ive personally grown Lemon Skunk by Green House as a freebie and it did well. Also Reserva Privadas Pineapple Chunk did pretty well. Dense solid sticky buds.

But out of all of those my favorite has been the GRAPE GOD!!! by Next Generation. I have a grow journal of it in my signature and it is a wonderful strain. Decent producer, super strong and resin filled, amazing taste, and wonderful density. It grew nice and christmas tree like. with short indica leaves but theyre skinny like sativas.

Check out the journal before you decide.

What site do you plan to order off of??
I order from SeaofSeeds these days, used to be attitude but you get more for your money with seaofseeds. I've pretty much eliminated all of the Pineapple from my list as I've given up on it. I just can't seem to enjoy the smokes I've had with any Pineapple strain.

I'll be sticking with feminized seeds for now, as I want a guarantee on at least 1 female. And I feel that my inexperience could cause problems with regular seeds. Perhaps next year I will venture onto the regular seed market.

And your Grape God certainly did look worthy of the Gods. Kudos to that.
 

budbro18

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I order from SeaofSeeds these days, used to be attitude but you get more for your money with seaofseeds. I've pretty much eliminated all of the Pineapple from my list as I've given up on it. I just can't seem to enjoy the smokes I've had with any Pineapple strain.

I'll be sticking with feminized seeds for now, as I want a guarantee on at least 1 female. And I feel that my inexperience could cause problems with regular seeds. Perhaps next year I will venture onto the regular seed market.

And your Grape God certainly did look worthy of the Gods. Kudos to that.


I fucks with single seed centre.

As for feminized and regulars ive so far messed with alot of fems but a few regulars. Definitely get more sturdy plants but if your budgets tight then fems are for you.

The grape god was a single fem seed that we got as a "hope this turns out good" strain and it surprised us all.

What kind of set up do you have??
 

hsfkush

Well-Known Member
I fucks with single seed centre.

As for feminized and regulars ive so far messed with alot of fems but a few regulars. Definitely get more sturdy plants but if your budgets tight then fems are for you.

The grape god was a single fem seed that we got as a "hope this turns out good" strain and it surprised us all.

What kind of set up do you have??
At the moment it's a CFL set up, with one 200w 2700k and two 30w 2700k. Luckily for me, my closet that I'm growing in is quite narrow so I'm able to hang the lights off the wall and they're all nicely positioned for the plants. I have 4 plants, 2 are seedlings(C99 and Lemon Kush), 1 in flower(C99) and 1 which is still waiting for maturity(Lemon Kush).

It's a real ghetto set up, but it's doing it's job well as it's only for personal growing. I do want to get better results though, which is why I'm planning on spending around £600 on a new set up. Which includes a 250w HPS system, new medium(canna coco), new fans, new pots(5litre due to space problems with 8litre pots), new batch of nutrients, a couple of 6500k low wattage CFL's as a compliment to the HPS, new seeds the whole shebang. I'm quite excited for it!

I did have an idea where I wanted to compare the taste of different strains which had similar gentics. I wanted to do a Diesel flavour grow, so Strawberry Diesel, Lemon Diesel, Raspberry Diesel etc etc. But I couldn't find many Diesel's which were named after fruits :( hence the categories of flavours haha.

We certainly have gone off topic on this one aye? Lol.
 

brimck325

Well-Known Member
if you have the money, i would suggest getting a dimmable ballast. 400-250-175or 150...reason being, i doubt your going to downsize...peace
 

Canna Connoiseur

Active Member
Ballasts def draw energy. I am installing high efficiancy fluorescent lights at a building I am working at now. The ballast draws energy. As I had to send all info to the state for grants and stuff.
 

NnthStTrls

Well-Known Member
Just a heads up on the whole cfl versus hid thing which is relevant since you are only growing a few plants. If you click the link in my signature you will see that the last grow I did was done using only cfl lighting. This was done for 2 reasons.

First would be the heat. I find it easier to deal with the heat put off from a few cfl's versus the heat put off from an hid equivalent to my total cfl wattage.

Second and more important is the fact that I have to pay for the electricity I use. Because of that I want to know that the light I am providing my plants is in a spectrum that my plants will use. By using the proper spectrum cfls I'm able to ensure that my electricity is being used in the most efficient manner possible. Hid lighting is incredibly wasteful in this aspect with a lot of the light being put out in a spectrum that isn't really helping your plant growth.

If you're growing in a walk in closet then by all means get yourself a big hid because it's just going to be easer to deal with but for someone who is growing just a few plants for personal use, cfls are perfectly adequate.

Back to my last grow. Using only cfl's I ended up with 5.73 ounces of dried cured bud off 2 plants even after snipping a few buds here and there to smoke or give to friends. I think that once you have a certain amount of light in your grow space, the real secret to pulling decent yields all comes down to technique. Big pots, good soil, no under or over watering, topping, and lst. Even more key is giving them a proper veg time of at least 1 month.

This grow I'm trying some new stuff totally for the hell of it. I've always topped, lst'ed, and vegged for at least 1 month. It's just been the natural thing for me since I started. This time I'm trying the 12/12 from seed style and I won't be topping at all. I'll lst a little if I feel the need but I'm running 6 plants instead of 2. If they all turn out female then I'll be anxious to compare my overall yield versus what I usually get. Anyways you can click my link and take a look at what I did there as far as lighting goes. Good luck with yours. Peace.
 

budbro18

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At the moment it's a CFL set up, with one 200w 2700k and two 30w 2700k. Luckily for me, my closet that I'm growing in is quite narrow so I'm able to hang the lights off the wall and they're all nicely positioned for the plants. I have 4 plants, 2 are seedlings(C99 and Lemon Kush), 1 in flower(C99) and 1 which is still waiting for maturity(Lemon Kush).

It's a real ghetto set up, but it's doing it's job well as it's only for personal growing. I do want to get better results though, which is why I'm planning on spending around £600 on a new set up. Which includes a 250w HPS system, new medium(canna coco), new fans, new pots(5litre due to space problems with 8litre pots), new batch of nutrients, a couple of 6500k low wattage CFL's as a compliment to the HPS, new seeds the whole shebang. I'm quite excited for it!

I did have an idea where I wanted to compare the taste of different strains which had similar gentics. I wanted to do a Diesel flavour grow, so Strawberry Diesel, Lemon Diesel, Raspberry Diesel etc etc. But I couldn't find many Diesel's which were named after fruits :( hence the categories of flavours haha.

We certainly have gone off topic on this one aye? Lol.

Yeah but thats what these threads are for haha

I feel the ghetto set up its a nice easy way to start up quick. Ive done several a cabinet grow with cfls.

Youll be excited when you upgrade to the 250 watt. If youre into the ghetto way you can get a ballast kit for cheap and wire it yourself and spend the extra money on a cooltube and a carbon filter or more fans.

Either way your new set up sounds like itll be nice.

I recommend air pots when you get new pots because they help reduce root circling and make it easier to transplant.

Check em out: Air pots

You can find em on ebay from a few different people usually
 

budbro18

Well-Known Member
Just a heads up on the whole cfl versus hid thing which is relevant since you are only growing a few plants. If you click the link in my signature you will see that the last grow I did was done using only cfl lighting. This was done for 2 reasons.

First would be the heat. I find it easier to deal with the heat put off from a few cfl's versus the heat put off from an hid equivalent to my total cfl wattage.

Second and more important is the fact that I have to pay for the electricity I use. Because of that I want to know that the light I am providing my plants is in a spectrum that my plants will use. By using the proper spectrum cfls I'm able to ensure that my electricity is being used in the most efficient manner possible. Hid lighting is incredibly wasteful in this aspect with a lot of the light being put out in a spectrum that isn't really helping your plant growth.

If you're growing in a walk in closet then by all means get yourself a big hid because it's just going to be easer to deal with but for someone who is growing just a few plants for personal use, cfls are perfectly adequate.

Back to my last grow. Using only cfl's I ended up with 5.73 ounces of dried cured bud off 2 plants even after snipping a few buds here and there to smoke or give to friends. I think that once you have a certain amount of light in your grow space, the real secret to pulling decent yields all comes down to technique. Big pots, good soil, no under or over watering, topping, and lst. Even more key is giving them a proper veg time of at least 1 month.

This grow I'm trying some new stuff totally for the hell of it. I've always topped, lst'ed, and vegged for at least 1 month. It's just been the natural thing for me since I started. This time I'm trying the 12/12 from seed style and I won't be topping at all. I'll lst a little if I feel the need but I'm running 6 plants instead of 2. If they all turn out female then I'll be anxious to compare my overall yield versus what I usually get. Anyways you can click my link and take a look at what I did there as far as lighting goes. Good luck with yours. Peace.


Your grow was certainly nice with cfls but you could get more from a 250 watt with a cool tube. Especially with your scrogs set up.

Cfls are a good light source but once you get over 150-250 watts they lose their luster. imo

Theyre amazing for supplemental lighting too for the lower buds and shit.

Have you ever tried growin with any hid?
 
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