16000+ watts medigrow: og kush+ 13 x 1kw hps + 3 x t5 badboys + grotek = *HAPPY JOY*

Beansly said:

It can't be a lot though cause the triacontanol is what makes them expensive. The article I read said something like a hundred thousand euros per kilo or something [can't find citation]. ST is expensive, but not that much.

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depends how they're sourcing it though. alfalfa's dirt cheap; for the amount we're looking for for our plants, it's easily conceivable that they're doing a plant-based extraction/concentration rather than using the pure form (which is almost always more expensive than the raw materials involved; the extraction process makes it that way).

mellokitty said:

depends how they're sourcing it though. alfalfa's dirt cheap; for the amount we're looking for for our plants, it's easily conceivable that they're doing a plant-based extraction/concentration rather than using the pure form (which is almost always more expensive than the raw materials involved; the extraction process makes it that way).

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...you so smart
garsh...

Love checkin in here as well. Madd space and even more power!

Beansly said:

...you so smart
garsh...

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nnnaaah, i just happen to know that alfalfa's like, $13/20lb (even less at aggie places i bet) and that 20lb will probably last me and my 50+ gallons per feeding at least a couple years.

I just fed a eight hour veg tea nice easy kinda bump for the root zone...
32gallons h2o at 230ppm (ro water plus my well water for trace)
Ten cups worm poo
Three cups alfalfa meal
Two cups dry molasses
One cup whole wheat flour (bacteria boost carb source)
Half cup braggs liquid aminos

It is not high in ppm but I was just reading that alfalfa steeped for two days at 20:1 water to meal will torch roots but have only good affects foliar style...! Kinda Coo
So the yellow bottle final will really up your yeilds and it is touted as organic source for trico

Joedank said:

I just fed a eight hour veg tea nice easy kinda bump for the root zone...
32gallons h2o at 230ppm (ro water plus my well water for trace)
Ten cups worm poo
Three cups alfalfa meal
Two cups dry molasses
One cup whole wheat flour (bacteria boost carb source)
Half cup braggs liquid aminos

It is not high in ppm but I was just reading that alfalfa steeped for two days at 20:1 water to meal will torch roots but have only good affects foliar style...! Kinda Coo
So the yellow bottle final will really up your yeilds and it is touted as organic source for trico

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....... and that's for veg? must try that next time i have veggers.
yeah, i keep hearing good things about yellow bottle final but no thanks on the paclobutrazol.....

Boyz N Da Hood said:

Love checkin in here as well. Madd space and even more power!

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thanks for stopping in boyz.....

i like bat shit ...... i live near the coast and gulls crap on me almost daily ... bats don't seem to crap on me... so i favor the the bats droppings.... its only a personal thing

mellokitty said:

....... and that's for veg? must try that next time i have veggers.
yeah, i keep hearing good things about yellow bottle final but no thanks on the paclobutrazol.....

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Paclobuzatrol!!!??? I did not know that is in there! Well then I am not gonna use it even for a trial;(
I have many aquantences in the biz that just add add add. Anything that anyone says will up yeilds...
My first experience with this was "gravity" then snow storm . Both proven c-20 and Paclobuzatrol containing products. The bottle only says kelp extract... This is like "superbud" all over again. (witch was repacked as bud dragon)
These products are aginst the law in cali due to cancer risks associated with ingestion .
I am talking chemsuit stuff that my brothers in arms spray on plants and in soil not knowing buildup issues or how pgr's on your skin build up in your liver... Hormones and such are dangerous very...

Looking good dude nice grow! best of luck.

Joedank said:

Paclobuzatrol!!!??? I did not know that is in there! Well then I am not gonna use it even for a trial;(
I have many aquantences in the biz that just add add add. Anything that anyone says will up yeilds...
My first experience with this was "gravity" then snow storm . Both proven c-20 and Paclobuzatrol containing products. The bottle only says kelp extract... This is like "superbud" all over again. (witch was repacked as bud dragon)
These products are aginst the law in cali due to cancer risks associated with ingestion .
I am talking chemsuit stuff that my brothers in arms spray on plants and in soil not knowing buildup issues or how pgr's on your skin build up in your liver... Hormones and such are dangerous very...

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i read an article about how that's why it's being pulled from cali shelves but damned if i can find it now........

My big issue is homies using pgr's and such every year as they build up in soils and runoffs...

Hey miss mello...look what I did! Hash oil capsules (Bad Kitty Smiles Kicks ASSSSSS). I got 27 using 6 gms of dry ice kief and 2 (ok, maybe 3) tsp coconut oil. *note to self, sift the kief first for larger particles. I took one the first night before I froze it per the recipe. I didn't sleep all night, but the sleep I got was solid. I took 2 last night after they were complete and got the same kind of sleep. I got I think about 5 solid hours each night which is pretty effin goooood. I think these would knock a normal person on their ass. I have a seriously high tolerance. But I'm highhhhhhh right now. lol I have taken two of the capsules, eaten a container of my caramel corn, then ate a couple of my peanut butter chocolate cookies crumbled up in some red velvet cake ice cream. I think I may even take another capsule when I take my melatonin and temazepam. On second thought, I wont...starting to get woozy.

Oh wow! I just realized I hijacked your thread. Sorry.

i really have to get around to trying those sometime........

video update..........

[video=youtube;XHoe73wiYf0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHoe73wiYf0[/video]

Joedank said:

I just fed a eight hour veg tea nice easy kinda bump for the root zone...
32gallons h2o at 230ppm (ro water plus my well water for trace)
Ten cups worm poo
Three cups alfalfa meal
Two cups dry molasses
One cup whole wheat flour (bacteria boost carb source)
Half cup braggs liquid aminos

It is not high in ppm but I was just reading that alfalfa steeped for two days at 20:1 water to meal will torch roots but have only good affects foliar style...! Kinda Coo
So the yellow bottle final will really up your yeilds and it is touted as organic source for trico

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another question about this...... do you just put it all loose in there and feed it to them solids and everything or.....?

troutie said:

i like bat shit ...... i live near the coast and gulls crap on me almost daily ... bats don't seem to crap on me... so i favor the the bats droppings.... its only a personal thing

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you should save that shit.... it's (in the words of guy fieri) MONEY.
have you seen the "caves" episode of Planet Earth, where there's the 10meter pile of batshit? i can think of soooooo many people whose first thought would've been "lookit all that fresh fertilizer......*homerdrooling*"

Love the video update kitty
Time to smoke....lol

Love the video miss mello. Is that Nina Simone?

fumble said:

Love the video miss mello. Is that Nina Simone?

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her name is iyeoka okoawo -- isn't her voice just amazing? <3 <3 <3
(funny tho: when you watch her stuff on youtube there's almost always a nina simone video in the sidebar 'recommends')