1st Grow - Client / Server model, perpetual, Top44 & Citral

Interesting night of maintainance.

First, the flower tower..
I yanked the cords off Beatrice and she's looking happier without the intruding wire. Also, tied Jenna up more, since she got real big all of a sudden. And I snipped the biggest fan leaves off of Christy. That's one big bitch, with at least 10 active budsites. I'm so damned psyched about that and all 3 plants look happy as can be. I'm convinced the purple leaf is Indica temp. purpling, as the leaf looks and feels fine. That and the temperature was 68 degrees when I opened it!

The veg. box..
The Zenbud clone is looking happy already. The skinned knee is 100% healed and stiff. She has new growth. I know with 100% certainty it's a girl, so.. how about Nikki.. after the gorgeous Nikki Dial. The Passion #1 has some weird leaves. They're kind of crinkly. Hmm. Twilight is an absolute monster for its age. I'm going to have to LST it soon. Maybe top it once. That all depends on time, though. Also, my Citral clone is picking up. The stalk is stiff and there's maybe new green in the cola area. The big Citral is.. big. Fucker.

On a purely strategic note, it occurred to me that I have plenty of seeds for a while, so I should just forget about cloning. That said, I may toss the big Citral in flower as soon as Beatrice is done. Only a few more weeks! I wonder what kind of yield I can expect on a quad topped large pot. I'm betting it'll be large, if Christy is any indicator.

sound like you got it goen on over at your place ele, check my new veg box on my OD grow thread its kind ghetto but kinda sweet! tell me what you think!

Not only did I take pictures for you guys because I've been so damned happy about this grow over the past few days, but I could not resist at all and pulled a TINY nug off Beatrice. I dd a few quick 10-20 second hits in the microwave, so that little bitty was a touch dry, but still moist. MAN! I just smoked my own shit. That is seriously the best feeling in the world. Not just that, but the effect is certainly noticeable. It's a nice, comfortable feeling, the Top44. Of course, it's a only about 30 days in, so it's far from as good as it will get, but still really, really decent. It makes me want to go get some shit done, oddly.

So, I just read on some of the differences between the cannabinoids the other day and this makes me think that, at this stage of the game, the THC is there, but not the CBD's yet. I think that, with this strain, that's the way it's supposed to be.

Also, for anyone that might not have been reading DW's grows, I've fully decided that my purpling leaf is just Indica temperature purpling. The case was 71 degrees after a full day of light when I opened it this morning. It'll probably be 67 after lights go off until 10 pm. I really locked onto this theory just now, since I saw that the new internal bud growth on Beatrice is purple and COVERED with trichomes. If only I could get a shot of that with the camera. It's too small to focus on with this shitty lense, though. When I pulled the top from the one nugget, I could clearly see it, though. Purple, all covered in that wonderful syrupy white sugar.

Seriously, this is the best morning I've had in a looong time.

1-3: Beatrice
4-5: Christy
6-8: Jenna
9: Flower Tower
10: Beatrice again.
11: Veg. Box
12: Citral #2 clone pepping up. You should have seen it before!
13: Passion #1 seedling getting big.
14: MASSIVE Twilight seedling.
15-16: Nikki SUPERCROPPED!

Wicked pics mate.
It's mayhem in there isn't it?
I'm loving the nug plant. Reminds me of one or 2 I've had. They still pack a punch too

i dont have anything against it, but all the work you put into a pcgrow, you can easily harvest 10x as much by doing just a tad bit extra. is all im saying. good luck though

getwrecked.. thanks for stopping by! I agree with you. If there were no need for extreme stealth, believe me, I'd have 8' tall Jack Herers under 1000 W HPS. Unfortunately, my house is 100% jammed. So much so, that we're trying to move. By the time we move, my money's on my state being legal and me having a card. In that scenario, believe you, me, I will have a dedicated room and those 8' tall Herers, along with a shit-ton of other useful strains. Until then, this is all I have to work with. I gotta tell you, too.. I think there are things about large scale ops that would be WAY easier. Shit.. I have to water every 1-2 days and have to be scared as hell about overwatering because of no drainage and potential root rot. It's a bitch! I am in my garden twice per day because it's necessary. Gotta trim down to keep space in order, etc. Please, God, let my state be legal.

v12.. HELLLLLZ yeah, it's mayhem! Beatrice (the nugget plant) is awesome, but soooo tiny. For a first shot, I'm jazzed. The newer girls look much more promising, though. You got thoughts on my theory of temperature based purpling? I've read that Indicas will do that from cold.. even strains that aren't known for it.

Also.. after my last update, I took 2 more clones from the big Citral and windowsilled them. "Big Citral" is now the smallest plant in there. I just hope these guys took. The method was to pop the fresh cuts directly in water for about 20 minutes, then 5 second swishing dunk in the hormone, into the dirt, then water.

Still feeling fabulous from my first taste of Top44, by the way.

You were right, dude. I feel a lot more comfortable with the box I've built now! Almost done testing temps, I'll hopefully have an answer by late afternoon. WOO WOO.

dude beatrice is truely purple looks great keep it up!

Hey ER
I live in UK and we know about cool temps
I never saw a plant do that as a result of the cold, but I still wouldn't discount natural changes as a result of genetics.
The way the colour is the same through the whole leaf is something I've never seen before.
You have been a bit spoilt with good genetics by the sound of things and it would make sense that the connoiseur growers who supply your stash tin had tried purple strains, so I guess it could be a simple genetic thing. Hope so.
The fact that you have changed the food schedule to cal/mag and flushed without any difference, combined with the fact that none of the other plants are showing similar symptoms, would suggest that it is only affecting one plant and is therefore genetic in nature. Check out some of the purple grows to see how they develop.
I will.

I think you were a bit soft on the poster who told you that you were wasting your time. Reminded me mostly of a spam mail. You know, like 'increase your manhood 10%' or 'Improve your ejaculation by 300%', only this one is 'INCREASE YOUR GROW BY 10 TIMES!'
Imagine:
Do you suffer from a small grow?
Embarassed to show your grow to your girlfriend?
Do your friends laugh at you because you have a tiny grow?
Well don't worry buddy. Help is at hand.
I can make your grow 10 times bigger. And thicker too!
Hermies?
You'll think they are banana trees

Beatrice is crazy!!!!

Shiftsta: thanks, man! I'm pretty proud of her. It's amazing to me that she's still got some 3 weeks! Since she's not putting on height at all, I'm imagining the girth should pick up.

DW: I think so too, man. Your PPB convinced me.

v12: LOL. That dude's OK.. and he's rockin a strain I want, so I'm tuned in on his grow, too! You can't expect people to believe in this method until they see it. I think the straight fact is that it's tedious. BUT.. it's what I have. And I also think you can't change someone's mind if you put them on the defensive. That's my ideology on everything I argue, really. The way I explain it to people face to face is that anyone at all can plant some seeds, turn on 1000W HPS and have a shit-ton of bud. Not everyone has the skill and patience to grow the weight we do with bonsai plants. Really, that's what we're doin'. We try to maximize yield with every step, and that's fuckin' awesome, if you ask me. Also.. the Top44 was not bagseed. That's Top44 from Nirvana! And purple!! I checked remaining bud where I pinched yesterday and it's still purple in there.. with a bunch of new growth.. about half the new overnight growth is also purpling. Serious.. I cannot wait to see if thing thing goes ALL purple. I'll be sending a pic to High Times with a caption of "WHY THE HELL DID NIRVANA KILL THIS STRAIN OFF, AGAIN?"

Gemini: glad I could be of assistance, buddy! Now show me some kickass hydro nugget!

just to let you know my NLs early leaves where all purple on the under side as well as a bit of the stem, but i also live in uk (cool temps). glad to hear the top44 is an alright smoke.

keep it up ER

Not a lot to report. Just looked in on the babies a bit ago. Beatrice will have to get re-veg'd. I was starting to think about scrapping the entire cloning idea unless I had something I really loved and wanted to keep around, but, if I have a straight up genetically purple Top44, I'd be a jackass to let that die off. The purple is creeping its way up the plant, now, too. It's all in the buds and up the big fan leaves, now. I've googled the hell out of "purple top44", but found nada. The plant looks really healthy and beautiful. Maybe it's just the cold basement floor. I'm sure the roots are in the mid sixties, at the bottom.

Also, did some pruning.. the Citral is very leafy. And, I tied down my big citral's hulking trunk to expose a tiny, tiny growth site near the bottom of it. The last two clones I took from it actually look pretty good so far, too. I wonder if they'll take. I'm giving one to my buddy that gave me Nikki, the Zenbud clone, if so. Gotta return the favor, right? The other will be used to determine sex and then grown somewhere. Maybe guerilla. I don't know yet. I might go pop a bunch of stuff and scout some locations soon. There's just slim time for it.

geneticaly purple eh ele? send me a clone of that! dont let it die off my friend.

Is it genetically purple or is it more of a temp thing?

That's the question, I think..

Also, the first purple leaf is acting up. I fed more P just pushing it. Not a good thing. Either that or it's just getting ready for harvest. Exciting!! And the other 2 flower girls are getting really tall.. or circulating around the lip.. however you want to look at it.

Waaay past pass out time. I hate having to work late shit..

Flower Tower:
Beatrice: 73 days, 12/12 52 days, flowering 35 days
Jenna: 12/12 from seed, 50 days, flowering 18 days
Christy: 12/12 from seed, 50 days, flowering 11 days.

Veg. Box:
Citral #1: 18/6 or 24/0, 73 days
Twilight #1: 18/6, 16 days
Passion #1 #1: 18/6, 15 days
Nikki: Zenbud rooted clone, 11 days

OK.. these shots blow, for the most part. Beatrice is still hot, but needs bulk. I think her problem isn't temperature. I'm a choad. I went back to more thoroughly read the plant problems sticky and there's a note under P deficiency about Purpling. It's common. She wants more P, so I'll give it to her, I guess. That's tough, too, because The citral, I think has too much P. It looks like too much P causing another nute to be locked out. So it got a flush ans smells just awful. Vegetal. To top that off, my Passion #1 is growing persistant mushrooms because it doesn't drink fast at all. It seems N deficient, too. Evil ass plant!

So.. the plants doing good are the "big Citral", The Zenbud clone, the Twilight (AWESOME) and the Bagseed, which has taken off like a true rocket.

So the bagseed.. pics 4 & 5.. not a single leaf trimmed.. Indica, ya think? *giggle* I got my work cut out for me.

Some nice frost there ER
I'm with you on the bagseed being indica, she looks good too.
Shame about the passion, but from a smoke perspective she will be worth the effort. With too much water in the pot there is a risk of drowning the roots, so try to put her somewhere where the soil will dry out a little faster. On top of a fan psu works fine. Hopefully she will perk up.

I was being sarcastic about the Indica comment. Skinny ass leaves, very few leaves, in general, but 10-11 bud sites already - that's a high calyx to leaf ratio. I think this thing has clear Sativa genes, but looking at the post versus real life, you can't really see the difference. I appoligize for my non-obvious sarcasm, there. Looking at it side-by-side with any other plant I have, it's bright glowing green, while the Indicas are a LOT darker green, too. Damn, I can't wait to smoke that thing!

I just hope for Christy to come back to life. She smelled a little less awful this morning, so I'm thinking that whatever was toxic is in far less ammount, now. I'll flush her again this evening. Damn picky ass plants.

In other boring news, I've been trying to prepare for medical growing. There's something to be said about this caregiver thing, since you can sell your leftovers to the dispensaries for similar buck. I'm not sure about you guys, but I've never met someone who could consume 12 full plants by themselves in 2-3 months. I know I certainly can't. So.. I'm trying to think strain and yield maximization on a larger scale. I will need to go 1000W MH and HPS with major LED on both and co2 all around. For myself, 12 plants in veg. (up to a foot) and 12 plants in bloom. Strains.. Blueberry, Hindu Kush and White Rhino to start, I think.

Sorry fella. Don't know what I was looking at last night. I'd had 3 diferent pheno's of Jack and some cider
I love the different colours of my plants.

Sounds like you will be able to grow all your dream strains soon. Really glad for you. I wouldn't know where to start!