1st Indoor - 400w Kushberry, Trainwreck +more

So today marks day 21 of 12/12, and I just took a couple pics for yahs.
They are all doing quite well, except we've had a low ph issue, however it was caught on time and they are already starting to recover. Unfortunately this week is when they put on the most weight so hopefully we didn't fuck our yield, i think they are fine. I use an oakton ph1 meter, it was 3 months old. All of a sudden started reading my 7.0 buffer solution as 9.0 so I took it into the store, and they tried fresh buffer solution, resetting it etc all to no avail. The ironic part is their model pen that they had was doing the same thing, but even worse it was reading buffer as 9.9. After a few "what in the fuck?'s", they ended up replacing the pen with a new one that was working. All said and done a couple of the ladies got fed with what I estimate was 5.0 ph. Luckily my soil has calcitic & dolomitic lime for ph balance and I caught this within 3 days.

I also picked up some ONA PRO gel. For anyone who has a grow up to my size, I'd recommend taking a look into this stuff. I bought the 1litre jar for $22, just opened it and set it by my growroom door, and my brother can no longer smell a thing. Im hoping it will not effect the taste/smell of my buds but id rather that than get busted cuz of the dank smell.

Enjoy the pics. I don't have pics of all of them this week but I will have individual ones of each plant at harvest and will do a review of each. The great white shark sure puts on the weight and crystal production early though I must say. Might be a good cash crop strain. The trainwreck is freaking massive, taller than me now with lots of long branches. Hopefully I can bring these ladies to the end with no more problems!

very ncie dude!!! interested in all of the strains

Hey guys & gals! time for an update

Today is day 28 (Week 4) since 12/12. The ph problem is fixed, they are now taking in nutes from the soil and not the fan leaves. Most of them are fine, the great white shark and trainwreck had a few pairs of fan leaves go yellow and fall off, but that has stopped and new growth is getting darker. I just have to make sure I feed them quite heavily every week until flush, especially the 2 that lost alot of the stored nutes in the leaves. Next grow I will have to remember to feed them heavier as well, because most of them have not shown nute burn, and you can tell they could take alot more nutrients.

Having said that, they are starting to fill in fairly nicely i think, and have been starting to produce resin this last week. I also had a good idea which allowed em to drop my temps down 2-3 degrees C while adding my 400w hps as side light for the plants that have been neglected in terms of light (these are strains I am testing, the strains that I know are good got better lighting). Since I am in Canada it is perfect daytime temps to have a fresh air intake. I am pulling air from outside, through my hood, then have a duct bent in a 180, blowing the surrisingly perfectly cooled air between the canopy and the bulb. They are loving it and so am I. The idea should work in the summer as well if I run lights through the night. But yeah, basically its an A/C all i have to do is close my window when the lights are off. Even if the window is left open there are so many bends in the duct work that it does not get cold enough to harm them. It also seems to keep the bulb itself cooler. Only thing to worry about is condensation in the hood, however so far no problems I think the bulb evaps any moisture before it can build up.

Here are some pics, forgive the inconsistant color and quality as i am still learning how to take good pics. This camera does not like to focus under HID's, and in darkness the flash seems too bright to see the detail.

I must admit the sleestack x skunk freebie is probly the sexiest looking plant so far. very short yet tight internodes and as many budsites as the trainwreck which is double the size.

What do you guys think?

nice!, i like the trainwreck pics the most man, and the plant shot of sleestack skunk, props man keep truckin

HookedOnChronic said:

nice!, i like the trainwreck pics the most man, and the plant shot of sleestack skunk, props man keep truckin

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thanks man really appreciate the support! id have to agree the trainwreck is quite the sexxor. Ive grown her outdoors in the past and I find the buds to be like candy. Just wish the internode spacing wasn't like 3 inches on the main stalk lol, been thinking of looking at some other breeder's trainwreck as I've seen more indica dominant ones. then again, i might just be getting a sativa pheno from GHSC which ive heard about. Could be why my yields havn't been great, the indica pheno is said to produce nearly double per sq/m.

I will have to say though that the kushberry has so much resin this early on, pretty big buds, and it smells like blueberry/lemon heaven. It may be my new favorite and if so, its alot more indica dominant than the trainwreck so i'd be able to up my yields. and even fit in an extra plant or 2.

shits starting to look dank man. nice thread keep it up

Hey guys, so we are at week 5 12/12. Temps down to 23c daytime, and 17c night. RH is 40% daytime, 70% night. Will probly start using the dehumidifier this week during the night. Or is 70% okay overnight? I run a fan or two 24/7.

They are doing pretty good, packing on the weight now and really starting to produce resin, and the oldest hairs on the hybrids are starting to recede. should be harvesting on schedule! (weeks 8/9)

some of them have starting to yellow a bit, from the bottom up, which is earlier than expected. Idk if it's because of that ph issue I had a couple weeks ago or if they are not getting enough nutes, or if theres too much salinity or whatever in the soil. I havn't fed straight water since I started flowering as they seemed to be asking for nutes, and were taking water very quickly. For that reason Im thinking its just too little nutes.

Been going half to 3/4 strength but affraid to go beyond that as the water was quite dark with nutes. It's hard to tell though because I use a 7 or 8 part line called general organics, and the diamond black supplement is literally pitch black and only a few drops makes your water look like it's way too heavy on the nutes. I think thats been causing me to go a little too lightly. The other reason why I think that is because when I feed them, the yellowing stops for a day or 2, then as it starts to dry a bit, you can see the yellowing continue.

Long story short, I think next grow I will slowly give them more food than I have been on this grow. I will probly add some guano or castings to my soil next time and also will use veg nutes until week 2 flower. They seem to need a shitton of N for that final stretch and creation of the budsites.

It doesn't seem to really be effecting the plants though, pretty nice size buds and they seem to be keeping to the schedule that I had in mind. I'm sure they would be a little larger if they had max nutes but meh, im happy if they keep going the way they are!.

I am also thinking about doing a 360 degree vertical grow next, so many advantages it seems. My plants that got light closer to a 45 angle rather than directly under the bulb had tighter internodes and thus higher yield per sq/m. I think that is the main reason the sleestack is filling out like she is, she got light from the upper side (i know this is strain dependant as well, but the light does help alot I think).

Anyway sorry for the long post, here are some pictures they are named by strain. As you can see the trainwreck is going purple as I was hoping And I can't complain about the size of that OG18 cola! For those of you who are looking for strain specific info, there's too much to do a report every week but I will make sure to do a detailed overall report on each strain with individual pics etc. There's just not enough room to risk damaging my ladies right now but I promise I will have all that info at the end.

Happy growing

Theyre living the dream, looking really healthy to me. I think most experienced growers will say the yellowing is normal especially the lower leaves as they are the most absorbed, them falling off first is allowing more light to the lower nuggs.

RollingJoints said:

Theyre living the dream, looking really healthy to me. I think most experienced growers will say the yellowing is normal especially the lower leaves as they are the most absorbed, them falling off first is allowing more light to the lower nuggs.

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thanks man. haha I'm so stoked. 3 more weeks!
and I owe it all to you guys here on RIU, learned ALOT here.

I will be following for the last bit. I have all the DNA crosses going and they are about 3 weeks behind you so it will be good to see how they finish up.

Alright so today marks 6 weeks since 12/12. 2 more weeks for most of them, looking like 3 for the sleeskunk, og18skunk and lemon skunk.
I was at a friends and didn't get back until now, and they are in dark period, so pics will have to wait until tomorrow.
I'm around most of the day tomorrow though so I will have them up for sure!

Not too much has changed since last week, just more resin production and a bit of weight. The trainwreck is on it's final growth spurt and is starting to display the weird tower calyxes which are starting to shoot out of the tops and sides of the colas, the purple is also still spreading through all the leaves. Also starting to put on that grape/strawberry/lemon smell that gets me horny. This strain is alot less fragile on nutes than I thought, and next grow i'll be adding some castings or something to my soil as a Nute buffer. The trainwreck just sucks up the nutes from week 2 of flower on, more than I can feed with liquid nutes without over watering. Im pretty excited about harvesting. Not sure what I'll get but it looks like on average 1-2 ounces per plant. Not what i'm used to being an outdoor guy but then again this stuff looks incredibly dank in comparison. I am bad at estimating yields though and most of these strains are new to me, so I could be way off. I am used to fluffier buds from growing in shaded outdoor spots, but these nugs seem to be alot more dense so maybe im in for a pleasant surprise.

Here are the pics! end of week 6/day 1 of week 7 (approx 2 weeks from harvest). These are kinda shitty pics as I was tight on time, would of liked to have taken more but the lights turned off on me.

They are definitely coming along quickly, the kushberry and trainwreck are really starting to look like some delicious chron. The sleestack x skunk is definately insane though, look at the weight she is packing on. I couldn't get a pic to do the resin production justice. Hopefully this is what the normal sleestack grows like, because it definitely looks to be an all around winner so far, can;t wait to try it. The OG18 just started producing thc, also a good yielder by the looks of it. The lemon skunk, cheese, and white rhino have been neglected but are still looking pretty good. I don;t think i'd grow the white rhino or lemon skunk again just based on their growth patterns, we will see how the highs are. The cheese however has quite a caking of resin and smells very very potent. Wish I had of given her more light and tlc, oh well at least ill get a good sample which was the intention. Hopefully nothing happens from now till harvest lol.

Ill probly start flushing them after 1 more feed, as you can see some of them are already most of the way flushed, due to me being too scared to feed them higher nute concentrations. The thing is, they have a bit of tip burn, so i think what is happening is that they have enough nutes the day that I feed them, but every day after that they are starting to use up the stored nutes in the leaves. And I've been watering/feeding them as often as possible without overwatering. For the next grow, i think adding some worm castings and/or guano may be necessary to help avoid this. The other thought that occurred to me is that I vegged these out to some pretty big girls, and I remember seeing preflowers 2 or 3 days after 12/12. I think we may actually be 1 week ahead of where I think we are. Some of them had probly started flowering on their own right before I switched over.

All in all though, I'm totally happy with how they are looking.

FUCK, bad news. So I was looking at my Kushberry today, and I thought I spotted a seed. Upon further inspection, it looks like she has been pollinated, and she is starting to seed up.

Now I've been watching closely for bananas as ive read some shitty stories on here, so I thought I was good to go. It turns out to be the trainwreck fem that is tossing the bananas, and it is so hard to tell at this point of flowering with the calyxes exploding all over. FUCK

There were only a couple immature bananas, which i removed, and the Kushberry appears to be the only one starting to seed up, except for a couple in the trainwreck.

My question is , what the fuck should I do? chop the kushberry and trainwreck and hope to fuck that the others didn't catch any pollen?

do what you want, seeds arent horrible, maybe u will get some craxy weed off them, if your selling it id chop em

HookedOnChronic said:

do what you want, seeds arent horrible, maybe u will get some craxy weed off them, if your selling it id chop em

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Thx man but I honestly don't think id trust the seeds enough to use them. I don't even know If ill be using fem'd seeds anymore. Ive had success with them but now I see why people prefer regs, less chance of a surprise like this.

This is all personal so id prefer to get whatever bud I can. Looks like the Kushberry is getting chopped early 2morow. I will probly leave any nugs that have not started to seed. The trainwreck doesn't have as many seeds so I'll let her keep going I think, just have to watch for more bananas which is damn near impossible with trainwreck at week 6 imo. Hoping and praying that the others didn't catch any pollen

yea man i feel for ya, most ppl do hate seeds, i probably would to if they popped in my garden

beauty strains regardless, love the TW

Sucks I know what you mean...but it should still be some great smoke in the end...

its actually not looking as bad as I thought, although the kushberry took a pretty hard hit and looks like about 30% is going to seed up, its less than I initially thought. the trainwreck also has around 5-6 seeds, other than that though everything is normal and looking good. Going let them all grow out but ill keep pinching off any banana's. I may use the seeds eventually when I have more space, or if i can find a good outdoor spot for them. Trainwreck x Kushberry does seem like a sexy cross. Who knows how stable it will be though.

On a side note the Cheese also has put on quite the fruity/cheese/skunk smell, and this may be a strain that ill grow again depending on the high. the yield, vigor, plant construction, flowering time, resin production, and smell all seem to be top notch. I believe, although GHSC produces the fem seeds of this strain, Franco said it's actually Big Buddha's cup winning genetics.

Anyways thx for stickin around guys. just 1 more week for most of the ladies.
Pics on saturday as usual

Alright everyone! Today is Day 49 of flower, End of week 7 Start of week 8, and I have some pics!

The trainwreck, cheese, great white shark, and kushberry are all going to be chopped in the next week. They are starting to show some amber trics and about 80% of the hairs are red and have receded. They have been flushed with ph'd water once, and I'd like to give them one more flush before harvest but we will see how the timing works out. The OG18 x Skunk, Sleestack x Skunk, Lemon Skunk and White Rhino will need an extra week or 2. The OG18 especially seems to be quite slow on the resin production.

Ive heard it is best to harvest when the soil is dry, is this true? If so, and i find a plant is rdy to harvest but would like one more flush, would I be best off:

1) Just letting them dry out, harvest on time but not get in the last flush.
2) Flush once more, then let dry out, harvest a few days late.
3) Flush once more and just harvest when they are rdy regardless of how wet/dry soil is.
4) Flush once more immediately even though the soil is still quite wet, giving me the last flush I want and hopefully allowing the soil the be dry in 3-4 days which is when id like to chop. (Will this harm the plants?)

I have harvested my outdoor with wet soil (no choice) and have found that the buds really do shrink up. I'd imagine the main advantage of harvesting when soil is dry is to avoid that weight loss from the water, instead letting them dry out and force the plant to produce oils adding weight in stickyness that is harder to evaporate.

What ya think?

Anyways here are some pics they are named by strain. Still can't get a pic of the sleeskunk that does it justice. Look at the size of the cola on that branch (only the 2nd node up too, and almost the same size as the main cola)

I water my plants until they are chopped. I dont really think it makes it take any longer when drying and I find that if you let it dry out too much and the leaves go limp it is much harder to trim. I think the reason people do that is so the soil weighs less when they go to throw it out, but it will compost better wet.