1st Spiderfarm 2x2 tent with New SF1000 w/dimmer grow

kovidkough · Dec 20, 2020

Wizzlebiz said:
Absolutely. My outdoor experience has applications to this that will definitely help. But just like anything else in this world you don't know what you dont know.

I was trying to do this whole no chemical thing hence why I didn't pH. But Its totally not my forte.

I will get it figured out.

outdoor chems are difficult, the weather is constantly battling you . inside not so much, you don't want rain? no rain, you don't want wind? no wind. you could try organic no til to avoid bottle nutes, but I prefer the tried and true method, outdoor organic inside chemicals. just me

kovidkough · Dec 20, 2020

Jimbo the Gael said:
Yeah, but they weren't in the early stages of N def when you did it were they?

no , but I've never seen everything so I don't claim to know it all, perhaps that would exacerbate the issue

Wizzlebiz · Dec 20, 2020

kovidkough said:
outdoor chems are difficult, the weather is constantly battling you . inside not so much, you don't want rain? no rain, you don't want wind? no wind. you could try organic no til to avoid bottle nutes, but I prefer the tried and true method, outdoor organic inside chemicals. just me

Yea see ive done chems outdoors for years. Never used organics.

So now I have this inside set up..... and I tried to change my game. Its a silly mistake tbh. I should stick to what I know this 1st run and fuck around next one.

kovidkough · Dec 20, 2020

Wizzlebiz said:
Yea see ive done chems outdoors for years. Never used organics.

So now I have this inside set up..... and I tried to change my game. Its a silly mistake tbh. I should stick to what I know this 1st run and fuck around next one.

or just 2 buckets , thats what I did wit hempy, ran 2 side by side , one soil and one hempy now I have 2 soil 4 hempy

Jimbo the Gael · Dec 20, 2020

Wizzlebiz said:
Yea see ive done chems outdoors for years. Never used organics.

So now I have this inside set up..... and I tried to change my game. Its a silly mistake tbh. I should stick to what I know this 1st run and fuck around next one.

On the other hand, the more problems you figure out on this run, the better your next should be. You'll also have the skill set for any need to replenish your stash in the winter.

Wizzlebiz · Dec 20, 2020

kovidkough said:
or just 2 buckets , thats what I did wit hempy, ran 2 side by side , one soil and one hempy now I have 2 soil 4 hempy

Thats a really good idea. I think il do that. Il keep it simple though.

I've never done dwc but I can see running 2 soil next to each other. 1 with chems one with organics so I can get a guage on where the difference lies.

kovidkough · Dec 20, 2020

I'm planning an outdoor grow first time next year so you'll get to see me fail outside lmao

kovidkough · Dec 20, 2020

I'm mostly worried about mold/pests and building a structure within the legal boundaries. nothing higher then 6ft SMH

Wizzlebiz · Dec 20, 2020

Jimbo the Gael said:
On the other hand, the more problems you figure out on this run, the better your next should be. You'll also have the skill set for any need to replenish your stash in the winter.

I'm sure il learn a tone from this run. Every run I have ever done I swear I've learned from and gotten better the next time around. Outdoors..... lmao.

I'm sure the same will apply here.

Wizzlebiz · Dec 20, 2020

kovidkough said:
I'm mostly worried about mold/pests and building a structure within the legal boundaries. nothing higher then 6ft SMH

Yea pests are the biggest issue for me outdoors. Mold less of a concern considering its hot as hell here during the summer. No to say its not a thing because it definitely is. But is more manageable than the fucking bugs.

kovidkough · Dec 20, 2020

Wizzlebiz said:
Yea pests are the biggest issue for me outdoors. Mold less of a concern considering its hot as hell here during the summer. No to say its not a thing because it definitely is. But is more manageable than the fucking bugs.

it rains alot in September in New England

Jimbo the Gael · Dec 20, 2020

I was worried about pests, and molds and fungi when I first went outdoors, and I only had a few Hindu Kush seeds. Turned out well, but Mostly because I was lurking here, and had a buddy in the area. Picked up a lot of good stuff. We're here to help.

Wizzlebiz · Dec 20, 2020

Wizzlebiz said:
Yea pests are the biggest issue for me outdoors. Mold less of a concern considering its hot as hell here during the summer. No to say its not a thing because it definitely is. But is more manageable than the fucking bugs.

I got small sections of bud rot due to fighting aphids with the hose. They spray off easily but if its not done in the heat of the day on a sunny day the moisture gets into the buds.

So timing became key in the fight. Cant let the aphids colonize. But can't spray them off unless conditions are just right.

Its not fun.

Best bug protection you can have is ladybird larvae.

I'm considering making a farm for them.

Wizzlebiz · Dec 20, 2020

kovidkough said:
it rains alot in September in New England

Thats the hard part. Are you gonna go into the ground? Or 10 gallon bags?

At least with the bags you can move them out of the rain.

kovidkough · Dec 20, 2020

Wizzlebiz said:
I got small sections of bud rot due to fighting aphids with the hose. They spray off easily but if its not done in the heat of the day on a sunny day the moisture gets into the buds.

So timing became key in the fight. Cant let the aphids colonize. But can't spray them off unless conditions are just right.

Its not fun.

Best bug protection you can have is ladybird larvae.

I'm considering making a farm for them.

are greenhouses too humid?

Jimbo the Gael · Dec 20, 2020

Wizzlebiz said:
I got small sections of bud rot due to fighting aphids with the hose. They spray off easily but if its not done in the heat of the day on a sunny day the moisture gets into the buds.

So timing became key in the fight. Cant let the aphids colonize. But can't spray them off unless conditions are just right.

Its not fun.

I used potassium bicarbonate as a preventive to bud rot on the advice of a guy in my area, only lost one tiny lower bud to it. Chili/garlic spray + pb fucked the aphids and leafhoppers right up. Oh, hornets are your best friends. They patrol your buds for caterpillars. I saw one pick one off and eat it right there.

kovidkough · Dec 20, 2020

Wizzlebiz said:
Thats the hard part. Are you gonna go into the ground? Or 10 gallon bags?

At least with the bags you can move them out of the rain.

I'm thinking in bags underneath a structure or pvc greenhouse. nothing crazy something small to test out perhaps 1 or 2 plants total just to experiment i still run my indoor crop but ill veg some clones out to bring outside

Wizzlebiz · Dec 20, 2020

kovidkough said:
are greenhouses too humid?

In the rain? Yea man. That will build condensation inside the walls I would think.

Wizzlebiz · Dec 20, 2020

Jimbo the Gael said:
I used potassium bicarbonate as a preventive to bud rot on the advice of a guy in my area, only lost one tiny lower bud to it. Chili/garlic spray + pb fucked the aphids and leafhoppers right up. Oh, hornets are your best friends. They patrol your buds for caterpillars. I saw one pick one off and eat it right there.

Late summer early fall the "meat bees" are all about those catapillars.

I use BT though. Fuck those little shits.

kovidkough · Dec 20, 2020

Wizzlebiz said:
In the rain? Yea man. That will build condensation inside the walls I would think.

see this already makes it difficult, by law it can't be visible from the road, by helicopter, binoculars some crazy shit

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