1st time grow/autoflower White widow,Amnesia Haze,Purple Kush

ssgtcrig13

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Hello everyone,brand new to the forum but have been researching over a year before I purchased my grow equipment so I have done quite a bit of research but still learn more and something new everyday. Thank God for YouTube lol. So anyways lets get on with my grow room. I have two 4x4 tents. One with 600w MH/hps, 6inch exhaust fan w/carbon filter, 3 fans. The other 4x4 has a 600w led with a 4inch exhaust fan w/carbon filter. 1 big fan. The soul I am using is a mix of fox farm,perlite,peat moss. And I have Fox farm nutes and calmag that I plan to use for my feedings. The autos I planted are 5 white widow,5 amnesia haze,8 purple kush, and one fem northern lights. All of the white widow and amnesia haze are in 2 gallon fabric pots and are in tent with MH which was switched over to hps last night cause sign of first female plant showed its sex. All ww and ah are on day 24. So are 2 of the purple kush which are showing sex too but they are in the led tent with the other PK's which are on day 10. So far the problems I have ran into which are a lot of rookie mistakes I have fixed. First the tent with the hps was getting way to hot even with 3 fans. I have exhaust shooting out my back window which is open about 8inches but I fixed the problem by placing a duct to my floor exhaust in my house, in that room and running the duct inside the bottom of tent which worked so well I had to turn down the central air a lil in the house cause it was blowing too much cold air. Second problem I have was I found small green Caterpillars which was sucking on the leaves of my seeding 10 day old purple kush. I killed all of them and sprayed down my plant and did a flush with azamax. Haven't seen one since thank God but them lil bastards did a number on 2 of the seedlings. They are alive but growth has slowed on them and especially one might not make it. But as far as the rest of my grow it has been great! I lst'd most of them and now they are on day 24 you can def see the benefits of lsting autos as they are big bushes now! Wish the would start to branch up more now tho cause they are not getting very tall but very bushy! Also only two plants are showing sex..They are starting to smell but not outside the tent, carbon filter works great! Both tents are on 19/5 light schedules because they are all autos except for the one northern lights that is only in week 1. All of the day 24 plants have received 2 veg feedings and thinking about switching to flowering nutes in about a week if the really start showing sex. Right now they are getting fox farm grow big and cal mag. Have temp finally down to 79 with rh of about 60. I water once a day which seems like I might be over watering but the plants all look healthy so hope I and doing it right. I will post pics of my setup and plants. Please any comments or tips you guys have please let me know. I am new and want to learn as much as possible from as many as people as possible so please any help or advice would be greatly appreciated! I wanted my first grow to be autos so it would give me good hands on training! I have fem blue dream, gorilla glue,northern lights, green crack, and kosher kush. To plant once these are harvested and I plan on planting just a couple for mother plants and start from there. Very excited!! Only question I really have is about LEDs..I bought a vipar600w which I thought was a great light but after reading forums people say you need to atleast pay $600 for a good led or it won't perform as well as a hid. So that's why I have my hps as my flowering light instead of my LED even tho it looks great and the plants seem to love it but I'm to worried now to trust it to give me my best yield so that's why I'm gonna stick to my hps until I get another LED to pair up with the other..so if anyone can help me answer if I need to invest in another led or if my 600w is enuf for 4x4 tent? Anyways thanks for any input!
 

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PRS90

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Hey, welcome! The girls look great! I dig your setup, looks good!

I recently ran into a similar dilemma with my LED on my auto. I have a marshydro 300 that has taken my auto all the way to day 35 before really showing any signs of flowering. Just decided to grab a stronger LED to get my plants through flowering.

But I think if you can manage the temps that you have with the HPS, your system seems pretty good to me! Although I'm also a rookie..;):eyesmoke:

Best of luck!
 

ssgtcrig13

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Thanks, yes you are right the temp was a big problem until I made the ducting system from my ac..now I have to cut a couple fans off lol. So I think I will be ok till next month when I can afford a new LED, for now it is enuf for the other tent that houses the younger plants in veg. Thanks for the reply and good luck to you as well
 

Budzbuddha

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600w hps will cover a 4x4 space , just fine ... Heat and proper airflow is the only real issue to monitor. I have ran 2 LED panels ( combined pull @ 544 watts total ) and had good results with flower. BUT since you have the 600 already , go with that for flower if you can control heat .

Also having enough overhead clearance above canopy .

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Walterwhiter

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@Olive Drab Green he's the vipar guy. I just bought a 450w vipar. What was your impression on the product? I am about to start my first grow and I'm doing a side by side with cfls and my led. Hopefully this week.
 

ssgtcrig13

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Thanks for the reply guys, yes it seems to be doing fine, I'm just decided to flower with my hps because I got scared after reading on the forums that you need to go out and atleast spend $500-$600 dollars min for a good 600w..not sure if it's true or not but being my first grow ever I decided to play it safe and stick to the hps. I am monitoring heat very closely now because it's not a air cooled reflective hood. It gets between 86-80 when lights are on. Lights off it gets to 68. Smell has started I noticed this morning when I opened door to flower tent plants Arron day 25 and 11 for the smaller purple kush. As far as how the vipar 600w is doing I would say great! But it seems to not have to coverage area for a 4x4, but next month I will buy a second vipar of maybe a Mars this time but def 600w. I believe 2 would do the job nicely! But since you are running your 450w with an additional cfls will give you better coverage. But that all depends on grow area you have.
 

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Walterwhiter

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Pretty big. About 2 foot width in the back because of shelves. So basically two areas in one closet a 2×3 foot where the vipar is at in the back and about 4×3'. In the front upgrading the cfls real quick to get better coverage. The vipar is supposed to do a 2×2 area. Want to get another vipar soon and split the front area of the room. I'll see how this first one I bought holds up for about a month and if she's good I'll try to swing another one.
 

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ssgtcrig13

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Thanks Brandon, and looks good Walter you should have plent of space! My homemade AC duct going from my central air in the house works perfect for cooling hps down so until I get another led in couple weeks I will stick to hps. Woke up this morning and plants are extra perky. Look very heathy, I think it's due to me skipping a watering yesterday. Def gonna have to slow down on watering, bad habit of always overdueing things and growing medical grade cannabis def the complete opposite..just enuf on everything. Seems after reading forums for the last year it seems to be everyone's main mistake is overdueing on everything. Water,nutes,light, pot size,ect..seems less is always better way to go!
 

ssgtcrig13

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So new update..and damn they are really taking off now. I am using 3 part veg to one part bloom. And I have started using the fox farm big bloom ass well at 1/2 dose. Feeding every 4-5 days. All I have to say is Royal Queen Seed autos are the way to go. Even tho they don't say they are super autos look their grows up on YouTube. Amazing yield, big plants! So here is day 30 WW and AH. And of course my 2 purple kush. The other 6 PK are are day 14 and look great as well. Have strong smell in tent and all the LST I did when they where younger has payed off big time! Turning in to big ass bushes lol! Ck it out
 

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