1st Time Uk Grower~Fem WW~DR100 Setup

warkrimez

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Well day 11 from seed and my plants are looking lovely and healthy even though i'm still battling the temps.......the roots have followed the contours of the cup around at the bottom and started to overlay on top of each other.im leaning towards repotting now as they look like theyre outgrowing the cups.(the leaves are way overhanging the circumference of the cup)...lemmi know what you think as i know its a bit early to be repotting them....cheers :)
 

UKcyrus

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you just wana make sure the roots got a nice hold on the soil cause if they dont then the soil will fall away and u can break the rootball an kill the plant
 

warkrimez

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hi all
Ok day 13 from seed and im looking to repot into their final pots tomorrow.Any tips on repotting and some help with my feeding program would be helpful as my plants are looking nice and healthy( i don't want to mess up now).my nutes are listed at the start of my thread.i will update with pics this evening....tnx :)
 

warkrimez

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Ok,here are the pics as promised....lemmi know what you think pls.
I have a quick question aswell,when i repot into my 11ltr pots tomorrow do i water after repotting? and if so do i add any nutes?....tnx :)

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13 days old from seed.
 

mared juwan

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Looking great dude. You should water after the transplant. Just to make sure the dirt flows around the roots and there aren't any giant air pockets in there. I never use nutes until the plants "ask" for it. There are three good ways to identify a hungry plant. 1) bottom leaves are turning light green then yellow 2) leaves are dull and have lost the shine to the surface 3) stems are dark purple. I don't see any of these in your plants. I see shiny green leaves and green stems. I would wait until you see some leaves turning yellow or losing their sheen. One valuable thing I learned my first grow was that overnuting f@cks up plants WAY worse than undernute. Overnute will destroy leaves overnight but the symptoms of undernute come on a lot more slowly. If I were you I would err towards undernute on the first grow. Those lower leaves are meant to die. They will not live all the way through flower no matter what you do so just keep an eye on them and when they get dull or yellow then it is time for nutes.
 

warkrimez

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Hi noobryder and kinghash,thx for dropping by.
Yea i hear ya about the repotting...i was looking to do it 4 days ago but i thought it was a bit early and talked myself out of it...i will trust my instincts next time :grin:

Hiya Mared,your post makes sense as usual :clap:
I was thinkin about going quarter strength with the hesi nutes for my first grow after reading so much about nute burn but i come across a thread yesterday,to cut a long story short the main gist of it was that hesi products by nature are understrength at full dose anyways...I'm leaning towards half strength for a month or so and gradually building it up to full strength for the final weeks....For now though i will just do what ive been doing(6ml of root complex and 1 drop of supervit in 2ltrs of water) as even a first timer like me can see that they look well...They've bulked out again overnight,will post a couple of pics after repotting.....Lol Daddeh's proud:hump:

Tnx all.
 

mared juwan

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Sounds like a good plan. It helps to look at veg and flower as two completely different stages. Whether or not you have your plants at "maximum" nute levels during veg will not affect your yield that much. It can affect the rate/speed of growth but that is about it. That's OK because you can veg longer if you need to. When you get into flower is when you really want to keep the nutes as high as you can. You have a certain amount of time for flower and then that is it. You can't lengthen the process. Well it just so happens that bloom nutes will not burn your plants very easily. Veg nutes are high in nitrogen making it easy to burn but bloom nutes are very low in nitrogen, instead being mostly potassium and phosphorous. Good news is that it is very hard to overdose on P and K. Any excess of these two nutes will stay in the medium and be flushed out with the next watering. Unlike nitrogen, the plant will not absorb more than it needs. So all of this was basically a long way of saying that 1/4 or 1/2 strength will be good during veg when you are using veg nutes but when you switch over to bloom nutes for flower don't be afraid to go up to label strength at that point.

We can get into the "rootbinding" debate later. Personally, I think this concept applies to indoor growing only when you are transplanting - and even then it takes very tightly wound roots to choke out a plant. That's what rootboud really means. A plant's rootball is so compact and interwoven that it becomes a barrier to the uptake of nutrients from the surrounding soil. But indoors we pour the nutes directly on top of the roots unlike outdoors where much of the nutes come from more distant surrounding soil. The exception is when we transplant to bigger pots. There is now new "surrounding" soil around our existing rootball. So my point is that big pots indoors don't make sense and transplanting any indoor plant more than once makes no sense, and as a corollary worrying about rootbindig doesn't make sense. I've grown 6 foot plants in two gallon pots filled only 3/4 of the way up. That's 1.8 meter tall plants in about 5.6 L of soil volume for my UK friends. I've seen 4 footers in 500mL containers. As long as you are providing nutes on top of the rootball and not to unrooted surrounding soil then you are good.
 

warkrimez

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Helloooo :)
Ok,the repotting went well and they are happily under the lights after being given a drink.
Funny you should mention pot sizes mared coz as i was repotting i was thinking to myself that 11ltr pots were a bit of an overkill!...I'm worried now that the light isn't gunna be as concentrated if i drop the light to 18inches so ive left it at 2ft to cover all 6 pots...which brings me to the question "Is that diamond reflector a piece of shit!"....im thinkin about losing it i dont think it spreads across my 6 pots well when the light is close to the plants.....maybe im just lookin for probs..haha.
here are the pics...


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mared juwan

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I've never used a diamond reflector. Should be fine. 11 L pots are fine too for your current setup but you might want to go smaller when you get more plants. Use the 11L for your mother plants. I use smaller pots because it means I can cram a lot more plants in the same amount of space. Since you only have seven plants it wouldn't have helped you that much. This way you won't have to water as often so that's really less work for you. Also, seedlings usually grow into pretty large plants and I imagine that closet will be just about full in a few weeks. When you go from clone it is a lot easier to keep the plants smaller so you can fit more in and take advantage of the smaller pots.

You can just rotate the positions of your plants if you are worried about uneven light coverage.
 

mared juwan

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Just wanted to also mention that the plants look great. Nice job on the re-pot. And what's the deal with that clone in the back? You know that clones grow a lot quicker in veg than seedlings? You might want to look into topping or fimming it eventually.
 

warkrimez

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cheers mared.....that odd looking weed plant at the back belongs to a friend(Really it does :) ),i have no idea what strain it is....he's had it on a windowsil for "3 MONTHS" so i said i would take it and feed it some nutes for a week or 2 and get it under the lights....you wanted to see the state of it when i got it!...it was like a stem with a couple of leaves..im giving it 1 more week in there then im taking it back to him as i need my space....Its a lost cause tbh.....now im not sure here so dont take it as law but im sure its forcing itself to flower??...all the new growth is tight round the stem and it and it seems to be budding near the top...its been on an 18-6 schedule for around 10 days..can this happen or is it just that the plant has had a poor upbringing :D
 

mared juwan

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Well if he had it on a window sill in the UK it would have been flowering because like us, you guys have less than 12 hours of daylight at this time of year. No biggie, because if the buds aren't too well developed you can "reveg" it. Any plant will go back to veg if left in 18/6 or more light for long enough. Some growers will become very fond of a particular plant. They will leave one bud on the plant and a couple leaves after harvest. Even this fully flowered and mostly harvested plant will start to regrow if put in veg conditions for about a month. So my guess is his plant was flowering when you got it but was in such a sorry state it was hard to tell. So now you are revegging it. That's why the leaves look all weird instead of like regular cannabis leaves. If you leave it in veg for a little while longer it will start to grow normally again. Honestly, if you are gonna give it back I would just kill it now. If he has it on a window sill there is zero chance of it turning out well considering it is the end of february LOL. If it is a known strain or is a bagseed from some good smoke I would try to convince him to let you keep it. You will be short on space but more plants are always better IMO. Two plants in cramped conditions will still yield more than one plant with plenty of space. You will also appreciate any sort of variety you can get in your harvest. Kinda of sucks after a few weeks of smoking the same strain over and over.
 

warkrimez

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lol,you really wanna see the ugly duckling?!?:D

here we are then...if you look back at the pics of my setup at the beginning of this thread you can see in 1 pic of my dr100 what state it was is when i got it.
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