2 strains both with different problems

falcao_mufc · Dec 5, 2014

I have a problem with one of my blue cheese fan leaves, about 2/3 the way up. It seems to be as if someone took 2 of the fingers and screwed them up in their hand. They are flopping about whilst the rest of the leaf fingers are firm. I chopped it off prior to the pics. Any clues?

falcao_mufc · Dec 5, 2014

Anyone?

falcao_mufc · Dec 6, 2014

Can someone help?

SnaFuu · Dec 6, 2014

Your root rot is causing that

Dont water so often has already been suggested

Do some more research and stop loving them so much. They're not your babies, they're a weed.

falcao_mufc · Dec 7, 2014

I water them about 2.5L every 4-5 days. Bearing in mind they are in about 10L of soil in each pot, i dont think im watering them too much? Or am i?

Cheers for the reply mate, like getting blood from a stone getting acknowledgement on here.

falcao_mufc · Dec 7, 2014

And it was only one leaf, the rest are sound. At the moment anyway :-D

hellmutt bones · Dec 7, 2014

Diabolical666 said:
Misting them is your problem, you are creating water hot spots. The leaf curling is more heat stress. Clay pots retain heat and will also cook your plants

^^^^what this dude said also try and get better ventilation

Big Trees · Dec 7, 2014

Another thing with misting is you gotta be careful. It's a real easy way to have a hot bulb explode and ruin your grow

falcao_mufc · Dec 7, 2014

I havent misted them since they were about 2 weeks old and under cfl. Water the soil only.

Cheers for the replies

hellmutt bones · Dec 7, 2014

ayr0n said:
hmm I never had an issue with misting under HID. I foliar feed frequently (several times a week), and even when I don't feed I like to spray pH'd water on em throughout the day...I've been told multiple times by multiple growers not to do this, but my girls seem to love it...They always seem to perk up and look healthier a couple hours after a foliar feed followed by a light misting of dilluted neem oil - Maybe the big difference is using an oscillating fan. I think if you keep the leaves gently moving consistently there is never a 'hot spot' of magnified light / heat from beads of water on the leaves for longer than a couple seconds.

Dude dont do this^^^
Plants in an indoor enviroment try to release the water out of there leaves (from high heat or too much moisture) if you keep misting them its like ur sofucating them only foliar mist(feed) if ur in veg and under cfl not hps i myself never mist.

ayr0n · Dec 7, 2014

hellmutt bones said:
Dude dont do this^^^
Plants in an indoor enviroment try to release the water out of there leaves (from high heat or too much moisture) if you keep misting them its like ur sofucating them only foliar mist(feed) if ur in veg and under cfl not hps i myself never mist.

Yeah I quit misting after veg is over...these girls don't look like they're suffocating to me

SnaFuu · Dec 7, 2014

ayr0n said:
Yeah I quit misting after veg is over...these girls don't look like they're suffocating to me
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You have thrips

ayr0n · Dec 7, 2014

SnaFuu said:
You have thrips

Whatcha basing that off of ?

SnaFuu · Dec 8, 2014

ayr0n said:
Whatcha basing that off of ?

Your camera's so good i could see the damage on the lower leaves...

Could be wrong, just givin ya a heads up

schuylaar · Dec 8, 2014

atidd11 said:
The stunted one you over fertilized

how can you tell other than it's stunted?

ayr0n · Dec 8, 2014

SnaFuu said:
Your camera's so good i could see the damage on the lower leaves...

Could be wrong, just givin ya a heads up

Wow nice eyes - the camera is actually really shitty lol

had spider mites or something similar for a week but I think they're gone now. Haven't had any new damage in a couple weeks after a neem oil bath. I was holding off on the flip until I could figure out the issue (thts why they're outgrowing the tent now :X) but it just kinda stopped so I went ahead n flipped em...that and a little nute burn to top it off, but everything appears to be back on track...Never did ID the culprit 100% - spider mites was more of a guess based on the way the damage looked and the fact that I couldn't actually see any bugs so it had 2 be something small - stopped looking into it after the damage stopped so hopefully it's been corrected...

schuylaar · Dec 8, 2014

falcao_mufc said:
I have a ph test kit but its the colour one and its difficult to compare to the chart. Ive stopped misting since a few days and ive lifted the light to 22 inches from 18. I have put a 7 inch fan blowing on the light from a few inches away as of tonight. Thanks for everyones help

get an electronic ph meter.

ph makes a huge difference.

i never liked the test kit and would get lazy not use.

i have both the ph meter and ppm meter

i don't mind doing ph now.

and it shows in my plants!

https://www.google.com/shopping/product/13541121100334614361?q=bluelab+ph+pen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&sa=X&ei=Ea-FVKvtGojngwSG6YLgDA&ved=0CIABELkk

ayr0n · Dec 8, 2014

falcao_mufc said:
I have a problem with one of my blue cheese fan leaves, about 2/3 the way up. It seems to be as if someone took 2 of the fingers and screwed them up in their hand. They are flopping about whilst the rest of the leaf fingers are firm. I chopped it off prior to the pics. Any clues? View attachment 3307365 View attachment 3307366

Idk man I've been looking through hundreds of images of deficiencies and pests, etc and really can't tell what's causing the twisted growth / dark spots... maybe the naked chick is throwing me off

schuylaar · Dec 8, 2014

SnaFuu said:
You have thrips

is that what that damage is?

i just had spider mites for the first time in 3 years.

when we grow indoors where the heck do these creatures come from?

i had damage like that and was wondering what the heck it was.

i've switched from soil to hempy dtw last round, too.

SnaFuu · Dec 8, 2014

ayr0n said:
Wow nice eyes - the camera is actually really shitty lol had spider mites or something similar for a week but I think they're gone now. Haven't had any new damage in a couple weeks after a neem oil bath. I was holding off on the flip until I could figure out the issue (thts why they're outgrowing the tent now :X) but it just kinda stopped so I went ahead n flipped em...that and a little nute burn to top it off, but everything appears to be back on track...Never did ID the culprit 100% - spider mites was more of a guess based on the way the damage looked and the fact that I couldn't actually see any bugs so it had 2 be something small - stopped looking into it after the damage stopped so hopefully it's been corrected...

Yeah, thrips. Not near as damaging as spidermites, and neem oil is the way to go. So nice one!

schuylaar said:
is that what that damage is?

i just had spider mites for the first time in 3 years.

when we grow indoors where the heck do these creatures come from?

i had damage like that and was wondering what the heck it was.

i've switched from soil to hempy dtw last round, too.

Yeah look up thrips, not a huge deal. Neem oil kills em (or at least keeps them at bay)

Im not sure how they get in... Maybe they show up on products we buy from the hydro shop? That's the only plausible explanation for my situation...

Showed up after 2 years....

At least they dont like trichomes :bigjoint:

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