2 Weeks - Clones not rooting :-/

xmatox said:

I said Liberally, which is the correct term. There are plenty of people that grow that reference to grow books all the time. I never referenced cannabis cup so who cares. All I said was you should not aim for that low of a temperature. You grow, however it is you grow, but I make a very good living off producing medicine. Are you the cannabis god? So you obviously spew off someone else's shit? I can see the military getting the best of you with your attacks. Again, I don't care what you say.... Advising someone to grow in the colder temperatures isn't a good move. You tard! You attacked me originally off of water temperatures when I was referring to Air temperatures, and now you are trying to stick by your decision to attack me by continuing to do so. I am assuming you are a vet due to your "carry on" comments. Your original comment of " I have been growing since junior high, so that equates to 20 years"... Kiss my ass! You were growing in the military? You were growing while living with mom and dad? doubt it. What poster above? 45-65 where? Where is your grow community that you speak of that dislikes experienced growers again? BFE?

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Would you like to embark on a Zoolander style "frost off" dude? Ive seen your little drip garden. If you can call it that. Fuck it, Lets blast some pics on here. Ill roll in there right now with a cam. Ill even grab some shots of some post-its with the date written on them right next to the jungle that is my garden so theres no accusations of funny business. Im not one for dick measuring contests, but the essence couldnt be more optimal in this scenario. Here we have a smart mouthed newb who called out user BryanOconner, and is now being called out himself and is now devouring some French Cries. Lets explore this further shall we? Frost off???
By the way: Military is what you have me pinned as eh? Thanks for the laugh. Im a Paramedic. You "make a good living off of producing medicine" do you? How quaint.
I make a good living off of producing medicine, and I make a real living off of administering medicine.

As for more of your parroted links, which pathetically seems to be all you know how to do, as opposed to offering any sort of substance of your own: Im not suggesting that clones will not root in 70degree temps. I actually have a tray of peat in a dome going now for a buddy who prefers rapid rooters. The temp in the dome is approx 80.
Youre initial rousting of Mr.Oconnor at his temperature question was what i was responding to.
Oh, and by the way: Rockwool is within the Hydroponics realm. See? you learned something today. Good for you Holmes!

So you laugh at being called a vet, and counter it with being a paramedic? what a laugh. You make a Real living? Paramedics make shit for pay. Mcdonalds makes more than you, so if your REAL living comes from being a paramedic you arn't producing shit for medicine. All in all you argued for something that is retarded, you are giving advice that is crap and now are arguing with someone who originally told you with my own damn words that you were wrong. I brought you multiple sources, which you deflected with hostility, only resulting to you saying that right now you are using the temperatures within the range I suggested. I have known many, many commercial growers, and have worked in plenty myselfs. I have never heard one of my mentors, EVER, say it is suggested to root your plants in 45º, EVER. I didn't learn shit from you other than I forget people in this community can be idiots.

Sometimes i hate the internet

You wNt to let your plugs dry out. Thats when they will blow roots

Also keep them in a warm place.

I love when I post. it gets so much attention . I just have to stick with what works with me and you do what works for you . I just prefer cold temps . I don't like to see root rot or stem rot . I have to get a 99.9 % success rate and I need it in a timely manner . so go ahead clone your plants at 80 or 90f under hps 1000 watt lights see how it works out for you also make sure you feed them a nice fertilizer bath . see if you get a 1 % rate. and post pics of it on here so we can tell you to chop it start over to sick to recover .

Bryan, sssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! no one is rooting in 90f temps, and no one is cloning under a 1000 HPS bulb. You just keep sticking to what you think works big guy.

Dankfactory said:

It's obvious you have zero fucking idea what you're talking about, and based off of this post are almost assuredly a substandard "grower." At 33 years old, i suppose I'm not exactly old, however I've been cultivating cannabis since junior high. That equates to roughly 20 years. I'm not claiming to know everything, but I've run countless organic dirt rooms, have blown up entire houses, I've been through ebb and flow when that was cutting edge hydro, and now I own a home with a fully sealed room with multiple inoculated DWC Res's with chillers plumbed in series. Let me assure you, grasshopper: chilled H20 possesses an exponentially higher DO2 content than at temperatures above approx 62 degrees. I have run my chilled cloning res at sub 50 temps multiple times with nothing but glorious, knobby, calcification at the cut site. So Au Contrair Monfrair. Apparently the more prestigious and obscure levels of hydro, specifically water culture, are more advanced than your current state of knowledge. I guess that's a nice way of stating that you have zero idea what you're talking about. Your license to employ condescending emoticons is hereby revoked. Carry on.

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No need for the inordinate amount of condescension man, there is enough of that here

bryan oconner said:

you never told us our temps ? are they between 45 and 65 f ? any hotter it gets very hard to impossible to get them to root . and also why not go hydro ? keep the water about 60 f with very little 18/6 purple preferred if not then blue light very weak about a 30 watt cfl strength . leds work great . do not use strong lights to clone common mistake . maximum of a 60 watt cfl 18/6 unless you have a shit load of plants then add more weak lights feed plain tap ph water

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Im not here to bash.. but what works great for you may not exactly be the best for another grower. To say that clones only root in 45 - 65f in the area that i live, with the procedures i use to clone, and also the type of strain im cloning.. is false. And what exactly is 45-65F?.. the ambient air temp?.. the clone dome?.. the rockwool?.. its an extremely broad generalization to say that clones only root under a very specific temp. For instance... If I took a clone from an outdoor plant that has been exposed to colder temps and adjusted accordingly to the point where it is healthy enough to take clones from.. Then also take clones from an indoor plant that has more or less been spoiled with ideal temps and conditions.. which one in my mind will root faster in cold conditions?.. The outdoor plant of course. I think its pretty obvious why. The indoor cut would be a lot better suited for higher temp conditions. Whenever I have a problem with a plant I dont just look at one broad and specific generalization. You have to consider all the factors that have lead up to that point as well. Growing is a science but these plants are also living. If you stress a plant out too much the results or end results will be effected.

Again not here to bash.. just thought I'd throw my two cents in.

I use a single bulb t5 2 foot and run it thru the humidome. Put a wet towel over the dome to keep the humidity up for the first 4 days. I get some bad ass cuts and my light is 54 watts