20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

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TheLastWood

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Hey gardener that's awesome bout the new gear. I just harvested my jack herer ex-mother. Beautiful rock hard nuggies. I am truly blown away by the ceramic metal halide. I got some scissor hash on a hose clamp and that's some good shit.

Since ur havin such good results in the coco, and since I use coco, I was wondering about your feeding regime. What ppm do u start feeding seedling n clones at and how much do u progress weekly? Do u feed every watering?

Also, have you ever heard of ppl feeding with just bloom ferts and micro? I guess a lot of ppl do it, but what's ur take on it?

N tell D to keep up the good work too!
 
drgreentm

drgreentm

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hey CG i got a ? for you if you dont mind my friend,
i have just recently acquired a single bubba kush clone and she is now vegged into a nice mommy. now i have read and heard that this strain is not a fantastic yielder, what did you think about the yields on yours?
i grow sog so mine are not normally vegged for a long period of time but i can veg them longer than my others to get a hopefully significant yield. any thoughts on a minimum veg time?
i did flower one small one (2 week veg) and she produced a little under a oz dry. all i know is it was some very good product.
thanks for any input and happy easter.
 
Sr. Verde

Sr. Verde

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collective gardener said:
not suprised easily by great pot, but this shit is NICE. The flavor is just what great Kush should be, and the high is truly without a ceiling. My third bong hit in an hour was one too many. I had to just lay back and listen to some tunes for an hour to just get back to a functioning state. I took clones right away and put the mother into bloom. We like to see what they will do in bloom so we know the best way to train the clones. Plus, I want a couple ozs of finished product ASAP. When our members get a hold of this, they're gonna go ballistic.
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I want some of thattt shit LOL! ive got 5 strains in a jar here i'm about to bust one out and volcano the shit out of it...


Heres a TD update for you CG its been a few weeeks since you've seen um!


PS: if your reading this, what are your thoughts on springtails? I have some of them, I hear they are a sign of good things in the soil but idk I dont like bugs
 

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collective gardener

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TheLastWood said:
Hey gardener that's awesome bout the new gear. I just harvested my jack herer ex-mother. Beautiful rock hard nuggies. I am truly blown away by the ceramic metal halide. I got some scissor hash on a hose clamp and that's some good shit.

Since ur havin such good results in the coco, and since I use coco, I was wondering about your feeding regime. What ppm do u start feeding seedling n clones at and how much do u progress weekly? Do u feed every watering?

Also, have you ever heard of ppl feeding with just bloom ferts and micro? I guess a lot of ppl do it, but what's ur take on it?

N tell D to keep up the good work too!
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We use Cutting Edge 3 part nutes as directed. In Veg we feed 1000ppm. The 6" pot small plants get the same 1000, but get plain RO water every other day. In Boom we feed 1300ppm. At week 5 we start a taper down on the ppm's ending at 0ppm 10 days prior to harvest. We feed every day with a flush around every 10 days or if there is ANY claw showing. That's it! We keep the feeding extremely simple. We do add "Plant Amp" (one of three additives by Cutting Edge) to our 3 part mix. It is Sulfur and Magnesium. I do this because I strongly believe that most nutes lack sufficient sulfur. Also, adding just 2mg/gallon puts the PH right at 5.2. Just a squirt of PH UP gets us between 5.8 and 6.2, and, mosts importantly, keeps it there. When I use PH down, it tends to drift back up a little in a few hours.

We're still working out this coco deal. I kind of miss my old Sunshine #4. It just doesn't hold enough water for the size plants we grow.

When Helper D wets out the coco blocks, he does so with 300ppm CalMag. This pre loads the coco with cal mag and prevents the coco from robbing it from the plants. Without doing this coco grown plants often show cal and/or mag problems. We watch for these very close. Just last week, we added 200ppm Cal Mag to the feeding for 3 days due to some signs of Cal problems. This usually occurs in veg. By bloom time, the coc is fully loaded with cal and mag and is less likely to rob them from the plants.
 
collective gardener

collective gardener

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drgreentm said:
hey CG i got a ? for you if you dont mind my friend,
i have just recently acquired a single bubba kush clone and she is now vegged into a nice mommy. now i have read and heard that this strain is not a fantastic yielder, what did you think about the yields on yours?
i grow sog so mine are not normally vegged for a long period of time but i can veg them longer than my others to get a hopefully significant yield. any thoughts on a minimum veg time?
i did flower one small one (2 week veg) and she produced a little under a oz dry. all i know is it was some very good product.
thanks for any input and happy easter.
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I'm pretty honest about what I know and what I don't know. I know this strain very well. All of my commercial growing friends grow it using many different styles. We grow huge 8 - 12 oz plants to keep our numbers down. It is not the best way to maximize the yield from this strain, but we're slaves to our plant count.

Here's how Commercial J does it. The Bubbas are topped one time. After topping, they are vegged to about 18" tall. The spacing is one plant/sq ft. His plants average about 1.5 ozs/each. This is with each 600 watt light covering a 4 x 4 area. He uses MagnumXXl reflectors. While this is less light than I would use, his product is perfect. I have found that too much light on the Bubba tops will drastically reduce the yield of the tops.

I've always figured 1.5oz/sq ft to be average yield. I don't go by "grams per watt". I figure that the room should have around 50+ watts/sq ft, and then look at my yield per sq ft. So, the Bubba is an average yielder. It's not going to do what a Blue Dream will do. But, the Bubba seems to always be in very high demand.
 
collective gardener

collective gardener

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Sr. Verde said:
I want some of thattt shit LOL! ive got 5 strains in a jar here i'm about to bust one out and volcano the shit out of it...


Heres a TD update for you CG its been a few weeeks since you've seen um!


PS: if your reading this, what are your thoughts on springtails? I have some of them, I hear they are a sign of good things in the soil but idk I dont like bugs
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I'm with you. Bugs not good. LOL
 
mellokitty

mellokitty

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Sr. Verde said:
I want some of thattt shit LOL! ive got 5 strains in a jar here i'm about to bust one out and volcano the shit out of it...


Heres a TD update for you CG its been a few weeeks since you've seen um!


PS: if your reading this, what are your thoughts on springtails? I have some of them, I hear they are a sign of good things in the soil but idk I dont like bugs
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you got springtails?? i'm jearous!!
but then again, this is coming from a chick who's known folks who grew "bioponics" by feeding the *goldfish in their res a specific diet.... i love crawlies and shit (literally). omg please nobody quote that ever.
 
drgreentm

drgreentm

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collective gardener said:
I'm pretty honest about what I know and what I don't know. I know this strain very well. All of my commercial growing friends grow it using many different styles. We grow huge 8 - 12 oz plants to keep our numbers down. It is not the best way to maximize the yield from this strain, but we're slaves to our plant count.

Here's how Commercial J does it. The Bubbas are topped one time. After topping, they are vegged to about 18" tall. The spacing is one plant/sq ft. His plants average about 1.5 ozs/each. This is with each 600 watt light covering a 4 x 4 area. He uses MagnumXXl reflectors. While this is less light than I would use, his product is perfect. I have found that too much light on the Bubba tops will drastically reduce the yield of the tops.

I've always figured 1.5oz/sq ft to be average yield. I don't go by "grams per watt". I figure that the room should have around 50+ watts/sq ft, and then look at my yield per sq ft. So, the Bubba is an average yielder. It's not going to do what a Blue Dream will do. But, the Bubba seems to always be in very high demand.
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man thanks a bunch this is exactly what i was looking for and i am like you i dont do grams per watt i always want per square foot numbers and i give my plants 1 square foot to grow in, from the products stand point it was great (smelling, tasting etc, etc..) and im very happy to have it in my garden and again thanks a bunch for sharing the knowledge and giving me a heads up.
 
dajosh42069

dajosh42069

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I've got A LOT of catching up to do here....unless you (or someone) wants to give me the skinny on what the CURRENT situation is.
 
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stickyfingaz89

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collective gardener said:
Wow. Unfortunately, I cannot get every light in one pic. And, you're correct. I lied. I have less than 20K. Here's the rundown:

Bloom Room: 12 - 1k lights, and 1 600 watt light. The original 10 + 2 more added a couple weeks ago. I'll be sure to take a pic for you.
Veg room Table: 2 - 1k lights in Adjust a Wing reflectors. Plenty of pics of those.
Veg Room Floor: 4 1k lights in Blockbuster air cooled reflectors. Plenty of pics of those, too.
Veg Room Shelf: 4 Bulb 4' T-5 for cuts recently rooted (220 watts)
Veg Room Shelf: 4' POS Flouro for rooting clones. (110 watts)

18,930 watts. I guess the thread title should have read "18,930 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction". When I started the thread, we had just finished the framing. At that time, we only had 2000 watts. We weren't quite sure exactly how big we were going to go. I deeply apologize for misleading you. Also, the pic of the ladder was clearly in poor taste. In the future, Helper D and I will endeavor to be more accurate in our posts. Thank you very much for pointing our our mistakes. It's people like yourself that push us to be better growers and better humans.
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Dont forget the power of the Fans there matey!! plus all other equipment!! bet once thats worked out you will ht the 20Kwh mark!!
 
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stickyfingaz89

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What a grow, Hats off to you,, How i would love to pull that off... Now although you are legaly allowed to grow. This might be a private type thing but is the electricity bill paid for or bypassed??? beacuse the amount of money that was spent to set up and the 18,000 odd watts used perpetualy == alot more than the buds worth you are pulling???
 
Wolverine97

Wolverine97

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collective gardener said:
We use Cutting Edge 3 part nutes as directed. In Veg we feed 1000ppm. The 6" pot small plants get the same 1000, but get plain RO water every other day. In Boom we feed 1300ppm. At week 5 we start a taper down on the ppm's ending at 0ppm 10 days prior to harvest. We feed every day with a flush around every 10 days or if there is ANY claw showing. That's it! We keep the feeding extremely simple. We do add "Plant Amp" (one of three additives by Cutting Edge) to our 3 part mix. It is Sulfur and Magnesium. I do this because I strongly believe that most nutes lack sufficient sulfur. Also, adding just 2mg/gallon puts the PH right at 5.2. Just a squirt of PH UP gets us between 5.8 and 6.2, and, mosts importantly, keeps it there. When I use PH down, it tends to drift back up a little in a few hours.

We're still working out this coco deal. I kind of miss my old Sunshine #4. It just doesn't hold enough water for the size plants we grow.

When Helper D wets out the coco blocks, he does so with 300ppm CalMag. This pre loads the coco with cal mag and prevents the coco from robbing it from the plants. Without doing this coco grown plants often show cal and/or mag problems. We watch for these very close. Just last week, we added 200ppm Cal Mag to the feeding for 3 days due to some signs of Cal problems. This usually occurs in veg. By bloom time, the coc is fully loaded with cal and mag and is less likely to rob them from the plants.
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I agree completely about the sulfur being in short supply in most nutrients. It makes huge difference in the smells and flavor of the finished product.
 
taint

taint

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mellokitty said:
you got springtails?? i'm jearous!!
but then again, this is coming from a chick who's known folks who grew "bioponics" by feeding the *goldfish in their res a specific diet.... i love crawlies and shit (literally). omg please nobody quote that ever.
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Huh....................................:)
 
dajosh42069

dajosh42069

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::waits to be filled in on what the current status of the grow is::

I mean, I could start from the beginning (I DID read the first 10 pages or so...) and spend a week trying to get caught up :-P or I can just get the cliff notes.
 
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Mattysville

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dude you gotta go back and read the whole thing. if you're trying to get information and learn a think or two the cliff notes version, like when you were in high school, is not sufficient. The nuance is in the details. You must read the book to get the details, right? Do yourself a favor and start at page 1 and don't stop reading, except to smoke a bowl, til you meet us back here at page 93. You will find the information much more useful that way.
 
dajosh42069

dajosh42069

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Mattysville said:
dude you gotta go back and read the whole thing. if you're trying to get information and learn a think or two the cliff notes version, like when you were in high school, is not sufficient. The nuance is in the details. You must read the book to get the details, right? Do yourself a favor and start at page 1 and don't stop reading, except to smoke a bowl, til you meet us back here at page 93. You will find the information much more useful that way.
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I'm not trying to read this so I can replicate or duplicate it...just looking to be entertained. I know your just trying to help and all, but I know how to go about learning something if I desire to do so. ;-) Thanks tho.
 
collective gardener

collective gardener

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dajosh42069 said:
::waits to be filled in on what the current status of the grow is::

I mean, I could start from the beginning (I DID read the first 10 pages or so...) and spend a week trying to get caught up :-P or I can just get the cliff notes.
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Cliff Notes:

Bunch of Bubba Kush
Spider Mite war
Growing in coco...slowly switching to RDWC
2 people growing: myself and Helper D
Helper D will fuck anything that moves

Your request strikes me as a little selfish. You don't want to spend the time to read the entire thread, but want someone else to spend the time to type the "cliff notes" for you? So that you can be entertained? Other than the info above, what cliff notes did you have in mind? Not that I'll provide them...just trying to figure this out.

Dude, I took the fucking time to write the shit, take and upload the pics, AND do the grow in the first place to have something to write about. I think you can spend a couple hours catching up if you want to see the "status" of the grow.
 
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