20 pounds a month

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drifter1978

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just a thought you may want to grow your plants horizontal by pinning them down and the let the buds grow up from there then you can grow to the size of your space and have less plants but bigger plants.i would do it in coco in big pots and have them sitting on a nute tank so no plumbing and either 2 x 600 hps or 1 x 1000 per plant and either 400 or 600 in vege room and co2 a must and good nutes from start to finish.if you take your time and think about it properly and get your timing with your plants down to a fine art there is no reason why you cant have 1 vege room and 3 flower rooms you just have to think outside the normal growing technics

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/122840-multi-strain-grow-journal.html
 

KaliKitsune

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I wouldn't bother with CO2 if you have solid airflow and refreshing. There's no point as if the room is kept around 70-75 plant respiration will be normal. You only really need increased CO2 in LARGE setups that get poor ventilation/airflow and have higher operating temps (The plants respirate more in higher temps so that's where extra CO2 would REALLY be needed.)
 
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drifter1978

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I wouldn't bother with CO2 if you have solid airflow and refreshing. There's no point as if the room is kept around 70-75 plant respiration will be normal. You only really need increased CO2 in LARGE setups that get poor ventilation/airflow and have higher operating temps (The plants respirate more in higher temps so that's where extra CO2 would REALLY be needed.)
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CO2
i dont use it myself i tried a home made one but didnt really see any difference in the size or growth of the buds,but i do have good air flow fresh air in and good vent out and good even temps.

but from what people say and i have read i know it can be tricky and you can have problems but if he is trying to get max yeild.wouldnt it give him more weight if he had a mint set and had his shit togther :?:
 

MrHowardMarks

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20 pounds a month? Pretty much gotta do hydro and gotta do SOG. Figure average of 1 ounce per plant. OK so you have to do a perpetual grow and harvest once a month. 16 ounces per pound times 20 =320 plants harvested each month. Now it takes 3 months total on average to grow 1 plant all the way through to harvest so your gonna need 3 times the amount of plants you harvest...960 plants. might as well make it 1000 plants just for fun. Ok so now your gonna need lights, lots and lots of lights. Lets just figure 50W/plant to get the 1 ounce. Use light movers to get more efficiency and we will say for fun it will double your light capacity. 1000*50=50,000 total watts needed. Lets figure the amperage load shall we? 50,000/240 ( For a big setup like this you really have to use 240 volt ballasts) = 208 amps of power. thats almost 420 amps of 110v power. Thats a big fuggin load for sure, more on the lines of commercial use.

Even here where I live electricity can be as low as 4 cents per KWH at times, even then your bill is going to be in the neighborhood of 2 dollars per hour of lights on. The average rate for electricity is 13 cents per KWH, so then those lights are gonna cost about 6 dollars per hour of lights on....$72/day, BUT the big kicker is that the power companies can charge you more for using more, even here if I power hog I have to pay up to 4x the normal rate, so lets say those lights are now costing about $300 a day to run. BUT since your using light movers you only need half as much power to achieve about the same results, so in a perfect world you would half all your power costs.

Makes you think about the whole thing in a different perspective. Now imagine trimming out 20 pounds of weed by yourself.


Yeah, I did some math of my own a few days ago, and gave up on trying to educate how it's done.

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to agree with littlegrower, just not with the cynicism, 4 bedrooms, each with 4 1000W lights, total of 16 1000W lights, raging the energy bill, and still not getting 20#s a month, probably 16#s every other month... Make that your goal.


I'll say it again, I don't usually reply to nonsense, but I'm bored, and there are a bunch of overambitious threads just like this one :clap:

Learn how to grow first, then worry about getting a bunch of equipment and starting up a warehouse... Jeeze, take it easy, and keep it simple.

And if I don't have anything productive to add, too bad, freedom of speech allows us americans to say what we want, go back to communist china if you want to tell people to shut up if they have nothing to add.

My prediction on the 20# per month=

Epic failure
 

littlegrower2004

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Yeah, I did some math of my own a few days ago, and gave up on trying to educate how it's done.

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to agree with littlegrower, just not with the cynicism, 4 bedrooms, each with 4 1000W lights, total of 16 1000W lights, raging the energy bill, and still not getting 20#s a month, probably 16#s every other month... Make that your goal.


I'll say it again, I don't usually reply to nonsense, but I'm bored, and there are a bunch of overambitious threads just like this one :clap:

Learn how to grow first, then worry about getting a bunch of equipment and starting up a warehouse... Jeeze, take it easy, and keep it simple.

And if I don't have anything productive to add, too bad, freedom of speech allows us americans to say what we want, go back to communist china if you want to tell people to shut up if they have nothing to add.

My prediction on the 20# per month=

Epic failure
thank u...
 

MrHowardMarks

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I do see a lot of ambition with new growers, when thinking about weights and yield...

But being cynical doesn't really help, giving them ideas on how much work and effort, money... etc. will let them realize that their hopes are too high. Average yield from a 1000w for an inexperienced grower is a pound, do the math, and you'll soon realize 20 #s a month is a huge task.

Keep it simple. :leaf:
 

xogenic

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isnt it something like one gram per watt?

the old saying of its not your number of plants its the light your using
 

NoDrama

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Its 1 gram/watt if you are a bona fide green thumb grower. For us average pukes we have to be happy with .5-.75g/watt.
 

xogenic

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i tend to average it with a pice of piss i just fucking load them with nutes and water for days on end then leave them for about 5 days to starve a bit and wilt down

then load them with water for a few days and then back on the nutes i triple the boost from the bottle measurements and double the pk and start the pk from first signs of hairs

grow in canna coco with perlite vermiculite an inch of clay pebbles in the bottom in one gallon pots sitting in saucers and i hand feed them into the saucer so the plant doesn't drown in a soggy coco mess as the nutes sit in the clay pebbles where the roots have warped round

i get 20 ounces from a 400w hps

not 20 pounds... if only
 

MrHowardMarks

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20 ounces from a 400 is quite impressive... So impressive that I might have to call bullshit on it, that's 1.4 grams per watt... Either you're super good at growing production strains, or you're including all the leaf in your yield...

I average a little over a pound per 600W, which is .75+ grams per watt... And I've been growing a while, just not production strains.
 

xogenic

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no no mate i dont include leaf just the way i grow i guess it seems to work without no punishment to the plant and ill reach 20 if everything goes right

can go from 17 - 20 per harvest all grown to just over a foot before flower

i shall try and get a grow journal going soon

at the moment im doing hashplant and i think i might get a lill less
when i started em into flower i got attacked by both whitefly and stem rot on a few plants

i cant take the credit for how i grow it was passed down with the generations
 

707DankSmoker

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First off dont go with sog, if you want to pull weight you gotta grow in soil. You have 4 empty rooms, your going to need 2 of the rooms being clone rooms you need the other two being on oppoisite grow sceduals, your going to need about 6 or 7 lights and a lot of nutrients good luck
 

littlegrower2004

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First off dont go with sog, if you want to pull weight you gotta grow in soil. You have 4 empty rooms, your going to need 2 of the rooms being clone rooms you need the other two being on oppoisite grow sceduals, your going to need about 6 or 7 lights and a lot of nutrients good luck
hahahahhah i would love to see anyone in the world grow 20 lbs a month with only 6 or 7 lights..hahahhahah maybe 6 or 7 in each room
 

MrHowardMarks

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Definately 6 in each of the 4 rooms... I grow with 6 lights, check my journal... My average is 6 pounds per harvest...

Just another example of overambition...

Seriously, one pound per 600, one and a half per 1000... Try to get those numbers and you're doing well.

-littlegrower, if you continue being cynical, you aren't going to make friends very fast.
 

littlegrower2004

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Definately 6 in each of the 4 rooms... I grow with 6 lights, check my journal... My average is 6 pounds per harvest...

Just another example of overambition...

Seriously, one pound per 600, one and a half per 1000... Try to get those numbers and you're doing well.

-littlegrower, if you continue being cynical, you aren't going to make friends very fast.
im not here to make friends..im here to better myself as a grower and to help ppl when i have a chance..i may not have alot of knowledge to benefit most growers on here but when ppl come on here simply asking us all how to grow almost a unobtainable amount per month then im gona jump in and throw in my cynical 2 cents...but to other ppl and threads that are realistic im not cynical or rude(cept to La9)...
 

Rotfeast

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Thanks guy, But i have the money to start up, i have a empy house. I have figured out all the little details such as electricity. My only problem is how to grow it, i guess this is harder then i thought. If nobody has any better ideas i will prob aim for 10 pound a month instead. =) thanks guys
OMEGA GARDEN google it. 4 of those + a ton of mothers and you would be set. Hell you might be able to do it all in 1 room
 

ZenOne

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yeh man your askin for the DEA to be barging down your door.
If yeh ask me 20Lbs is just rediculus for one person,
If your going to even attempt it, Invest in a farm house
do it in the barn. Safest way i can think of bud.
Goood luck to yeh Cant wait to see how it turns out!
 
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