250W MH/HPS, 5 Green House El Nino & 2 White Widow, 1st Grow

newbieharvester said:

Me too, going for 250, and a stupid question... Will all "eti" ballasts be "switchable"? I mean, you can use both MH & HPS on them right?

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dunno wut eti is... i been lookn at the floralux setups at htgsupply.com. like 229 for hps wit mh conversion bulb. n you can add forced air cooln, which is great for my lil 2x3x4 box

newbieharvester said:

Me too, going for 250, and a stupid question... Will all "eti" ballasts be "switchable"? I mean, you can use both MH & HPS on them right?

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Hi newbieharvester, I am not sure if all of them are for both MH & HPS. but here is a picture of mine and it works very well with both and was really cheap: Ballast ETI for HPS & MH 250W + reflector + HPI-T Plus from Philips cost me 75€=91$ (german website) and I bought my HPS SON-T PIA PLUS 250W from Philips too for 30€=36$ inclusive shipping (german website too so not for the USA).

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reefacheefa said:

o yeh, im keepn up wit tis one. i was goin back n forth between a 400 or 250w mh/hps system, but i see the 250 will do jus fine for my needs. beautiful plants bro

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Hello Reefacheefa,
About the 250W I tell you, I go often on a French website too and there 250W is the standard, a lot even use 125W. If it's just for you don't worry you will get enough and you will save a lot of $$ on your electricity bill and a lot of problem of heat less (I don't have a cooltube and everything works perfectly= I saved a lot of money )

And here is a new pict of my plant after I trim the leaves that were too deep to get enough light. On the pict you can also see that I have my new Cfl 23W installed. I'll see now how the plants react with that extra light and decide if it is worth it and if I continue with it.

the Cfl doesn't seem to make any change on my plants except that it burned one lief so today was it's last day. I may use it again sometime if I feel it but....
anyway some new picts of my babies. The room is a bit crowded now and even if I am doing my best to try to keep my plants not tooo big, I guess I'll have to move the light in some weeks

Hey man all is well and the girls look very nice so far,how tall are they now?

i got a 250W MH/HPS SCorg cabnet grow, so im subscribing wanna see your turn out, nice grow btw

The tallest one is 92cm from the foot, that would be 3 feet and 0.22 inches according to Google
I read that they can get twice as big during the flowering stage, I really hope mine will not get that crazy because 1,80m (6 feet) flower is not what I planned.... but anyway I have a lot of vertical place so it will be possible, I'll just have to do more holes to hang my light

and welcome Freshsmoke,
just an small advice from my little experience, don't think that because you don't have super powerful lamp your plants will not grow like crazy.... 6 plants in 0.8m²=8.6 sq feet is a MAXIMUM (I actually planned 10 but got 1 hermi and 3 didn't germinate)

Hey thanks for the feed back,one more ? have you ran this set before and if so what is your average yield off of 5 plants with it? thanks im sub'd will be watching..

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The tallest one is 92cm from the foot, that would be 3 feet and 0.22 inches according to Google
I read that they can get twice as big during the flowering stage, I really hope mine will not get that crazy because 1,80m (6 feet) flower is not what I planned.... but anyway I have a lot of vertical place so it will be possible, I'll just have to do more holes to hang my light

and welcome Freshsmoke,
just an small advice from my little experience, don't think that because you don't have super powerful lamp your plants will not grow like crazy.... 6 plants in 0.8m²=8.6 sq feet is a MAXIMUM (I actually planned 10 but got 1 hermi and 3 didn't germinate)

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thanks im only growing 3 plants atm, in about a 0.5m² area just fitted a diy cool tube to get my light closer to the plants i can easily get it about 6-8 in now from the 15in that it was, hopfully that should help. before i had a cooltube it was far too hot to get the blub close to my plants so i moved it away and this slowed the growth.

Yeah, I am a bit scared to burn them too, especially when I leave my flat for 2 days during the WE, they could grow a bit too much and get too close to the light :\

and stinkbudd1, it is my first grow so I don't know how much I'll have, I am hopping to have more than 150g (= a bit more than 4oz). I'll let you know in mid august when I harvest my babies (hopefully).

and here are some new picts, I change my plants order in order for the big one to be a bit farer from the light and the smallest to get more energy.

I have been doing the 12/12 cycle for 1 week now and I clearly see a change in my plants, their buds start to get more dense.........HHHAAAAAAAAAA I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!

looking good, got my 250 a week ago, and the plants love it! So thx for pushing me into the 250w!

Hi Newbieharvester,

I'm happy, you appreciate your 250W but still don't think it will give you the same yield as a 400W would have. But as far as I know it will give a really good weed with an affordable cost and nearly no heat problem.
And here new pictures, I love to see the changes in buds. And the first pistils are out now. I don't think it is clear on the pictures, but hey I took them with my mobile phone so the result is not sooo bad I think, I'm not gonna complain

I wanted to add, for anyone who wants to grow under 250W, I would now recommend to do a Scrog, it seems to be the best way to get the more out of your light.
there are some more info: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=24013

Hello everyone,
so I didn't post for ages but that doesn't mean I had forgotten you, actually I don't have any good excuse except that I was pissed during one week since my lamp actually felt on my plants (who said it wasn't attached properly on my wall... :\ ), still using the plant that was under it to cushion itself it didn't break but I still lost a 3 beautiful heads and stressed some. I have been lucky since nothing got really damages, I mean, it could have started a fire and burn all my building... :-s
First some pictures I took the 29th of June, that means Flo + 18

And now some more pictures I took today (Flo + 29), it's amazing how much different the white widow is compare to the El Nino. It wasn't until now but since 2 weeks ago it has started to change (the last picture shows her)

I also started to try to produce seeds too with the pollen of my male white widow (he is in my GF flat) but I am not sure I did it well, if anyone has some advices I'll be more than happy to know how I should do it and even better how quick is it between the pollination an the start of the first changes. And until when can I pollinate my girls???

Thanks

Am I allowed to post.. although im using 2 of them...?

very nice bro... im usin 250 mh/hps myself. no sog tho... like to see wut comes of this

Hi all,

big deal this week, I'll travel with my GF during 5 days so no one will be in my flat to take care of my plant I overwatered them a bit and change the cycle to 10/14. the 22th my GF will come back and she will have to take care of them, I'll only be able to see my ladies the 2nd of August... :'(
So no picture for a while but as soon as I'm back I'll right how everything went.

@ Jay_normous,
sure you can post, if you have anything to say I'll be more than happy to hear it
(it took me a while to find out what you meant with "although im using 2 of them", I thought you referred to your profile pict :\ hahah by the way nice plants, I think that the next time I grow I'll use 250W HPS more just for the flowering)

@ reefachefaa,
Where could I see your journal? I'm always looking for similar grow as mine to compare and improve hopefully

o duuude. thats child neglect... i havent tried a scrog, but i can highly recommend LST under a 250!! your babes look great btw!! +++

Hi you all,
it's been like forever since I post on my journal.
First, the over-water worked perfectly and my GF did a good job too so my plants have been able to flower really well. I harvested them a bit more than a week ago now and they are drying since then. I am quit satisfy with the amount I got, I still didn't weighted it but as soon as I do I'll post the result to close my journal.
They were Huge differences between the El Nino and the White Widow at the end, the smell was completely different with a much more lemon smell from the WW. The El Nino had less compact heads but with a lot of trichrom on the leaves so I guess it would be a really good plant to do hashish. I tried to smoke a bit of the El Nino too and it was really satisfying, I laugh all the night with my GF and had a lot of energy. Usually smoking means no sex for me so I like this one The taste of the El Nino is really good too. It is a warm soft taste.