2x 90 watt ufo's + 1x 150 watt envirolite.

stelthy

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Ok 1st of all I unpackaged my Pollinator, I left it sitting in its poly base to reduce vibrations against my wooden table. I then connected her up to the mains (un-switched for now), then my mate and I filled up the inside of the unit with enough water to just past the half way point! and added 2 whole bags of ASDA's pre bagged ice. bringing the water level a cm below the top surgested fill level, In the pack you get a trim bag, its humbug shaped with a zip and made of a curtain kind of mesh netting, you can pretty much use as much leaf/bud/trim etc as you like as long as it has room to move in the bag, same sort of effect as a PG Tips Pyramid T-bag only larger:) I used 2.5 oZ of leaf/pop-corn buds and trim, since this is all the left over from the newly harvested top section of my Jack Herer lady. this pic was taken just before my 2nd extract, I got 2 good runs with this machine today, the left over wet leaf is already for compost now, or even scrap since I only use Hydro, and have no need for compost, its ok to put outside in the bin since the smell and thc has been removed in the ice extraction I will just bury mine to be on the safe side :) anyhow after the bag has been "washed" I squeezed out the remaining crystal juice from the bag and drained the liquid through its attached supplied hose into a fermentation 5gallon container, but 1st I placed 8 different grade Micron bubble bags, and poured the green gold through until the last bag was sitting just under the water, you put the bags in, in order of size so smallest Microm (mc) screen goes in 1st then the next size etc... until the last bag (largest MC bag) goes in last, stacked kinda like a russian doll, Then you kinda shuffle the bags and slowly lift them one at a time out of the water, as the water drains slowly a fine silt of THC (trichs) are left you scrap each bags layer up with a fine edged spoon, scraping the silt off with a plate underneath inside the inside-out bag and deposit it on a cardboard sheet ( the kind crisp boxes are made out of ) to dry, if you gain larger ammounts of this "silt" the compound is to be pushed through a sive to dry out the Hash more evenly and quicker, after it drys you can make your hash with your preffered method, I just wrap it in clingfilm and put it away in a draw till I need it! the out side goes a bit shiny due to sweating and there you have it 8 different sizes of different grade Hash ranging from crap to super hardcore green to sandy brown, There are many methods of extracting this is just one! who know as I go on I may show another method to but this is my preferred way! and if you decide to sample your Hash place it in a bong or pipe torch it and toke, you'll notice it bubbles this is a sign that the Hash is very pure and of good quality, and after you ve hit it the Hash only leaves a silverish burn mark on the gauze and no ash...remarkable and the highs are very strong and last a good few hours VERY VERY NICE!!! - STELTHY
 

stelthy

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This is a pic of the 'green gold' after the 1st 8 extraction bags had been lifted... its good to go again, I put it through the pollinator again with the once used leaf and green matter and re poured it out through the 8 different grade bubble sacs into the container and repeatedly lifted the sacks one by one out of the container. and scraped the resign onto the cardboard to dry before putting it into clingfilm for storage - STELTHY
 

stelthy

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This is the the Hash after it had been dried on the cardboard the wet marks are where it had previously been left to dry only an hour before! then each sample was placed into a piece of clingfilm, I sample the 38MC as I new this would be the most potent, (most the trich's heads where still intact) and it was fuckin' mental the high was fast and pure a nice heady feeling, without the sudden feeling of panic that some bud/hash delivers. The overall weight was just under 5grams but that's a nice little smoke session right there and we got so high!....another job well done :) - STELTHY
 

stelthy

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So instead of just throwing away my leaf and popcorn buds I made 4.5 grams of pure Hash from 2.5oZ of of waste.... not a lot but a nice afternoon of pure toking goodness, a little different from the norm. and feeling a little better for it - STELTHY
 

mookie brown

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Damn Stealthy, you got some hash !!

Question for you, Is it worth my while to spend money on a kit to make hash from just one plant which is roughly 3.5 feet tall ?

What would you recommend for me to do to not let anything go to waste ?

On another note, These 90watt led ufo's seem to be changing every month from seller to seller. I found this guy on eBay who sells ufo's with cree led's. Depending on what other sellers have in 5 weeks which is when I harvest, I just may have to make a best offer for 2 of them. Check out this youtube vid & tell me what you think

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http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2010-model-90w-HO-Cree-Lighthouse-Hydro-6-Band-USA_W0QQitemZ280470262396QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414d54927c
 

Ironlungz82

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Try this stelth. Hope it works. Take 2.

http://www.hydrogrowled.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=41

If not read through the last few pages of the Aussie thread and its in one of Jats posts.
Those are the same one's I bought, and now I know why your friends are happy with them because they work very well.

Great grow by the way stelthy. That's one way of showing people LED's do work and you can get nice dense buds using them. :clap:
Cant wait to see your 400W HPS grow and see a comparison. I started off with a 400W and switched to LED's because I was having too many heat issues using HPS and didn't feel like burning more energy running my AC during the winter.
 

mookie brown

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Ironlungz82,

I was just looking at that page of the led's you posted & noticed that the 126watt panel only puts out nearly 5000 lumens. The new 90watt ufo I was looking at which uses cree leds puts out 16,400lumens. You may want to check into it. Less watts used & a higher lumen output, plus the cost is nearly half the price.

:peace:
 

Ironlungz82

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Looks interesting, I've been looking out for a UFO that works to add to my grow. Are you thinking about purchasing one? The price don't seem too bad. there's a few I was looking at and they run for $300.
Damn Stealthy, you got some hash !!

Question for you, Is it worth my while to spend money on a kit to make hash from just one plant which is roughly 3.5 feet tall ?

What would you recommend for me to do to not let anything go to waste ?

On another note, These 90watt led ufo's seem to be changing every month from seller to seller. I found this guy on eBay who sells ufo's with cree led's. Depending on what other sellers have in 5 weeks which is when I harvest, I just may have to make a best offer for 2 of them. Check out this youtube vid & tell me what you think

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http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2010-model-90w-HO-Cree-Lighthouse-Hydro-6-Band-USA_W0QQitemZ280470262396QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414d54927c
 

Ironlungz82

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I was reading an article about lumens and how it does not have anything to do with the plants growth. It's all about the spectrum. Lumens is just a way of measuring light output. I wish I can find that article.
I would like to give them UFO's a try as long as I know they work for MJ.
Ironlungz82,

I was just looking at that page of the led's you posted & noticed that the 126watt panel only puts out 5000 lumens. The new 90watt ufo I was looking at which uses cree leds puts out 16,400lumens. You may want to check into it. Less watts used & a higher lumen output, plus the cost is nearly half the price.

:peace:
 

mookie brown

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Looks interesting, I've been looking out for a UFO that works to add to my grow. Are you thinking about purchasing one? The price don't seem too bad. there's a few I was looking at and they run for $300.

I'm thinking about purchasing two. At the moment I'm using a 400watt hps for flowering & I love it.What's making me want to purchase the led's are to be able to control heat in the summer time & also not to run the ac harder than normal. My plan is to still use the hps between october-may & led's during summer. If I pull off a grow of 4z's with two of the led's on 1 plant between 3-3.5' I just may use led's all year round & start growing perpetually. I'm looking at led's everyday & the sellers seem to have something new each week. I'll see what's out in 5 weeks when I'm ready to make my purchase but right now these new ufos with the cree led's have my attention. I also like the fact this seller has over 5000 feedbacks with 100% positive feedback. I'll also keep on that over the next 5 weeks. lol

P.S. The sellers listings are not private which is good because I'm able to go look at what people made with best offers when they left a feedback to seller. I see one person paid 208.00 Who knows, maybe I can get 2 below 400 shipped.
 

Ironlungz82

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I'm thinking about purchasing two. At the moment I'm using a 400watt hps for flowering & I love it.What's making me want to purchase the led's are to be able to control heat in the summer time & also not to run the ac harder than normal. My plan is to still use the hps between october-may & led's during summer. If I pull off a grow of 4z's with two of the led's on 1 plant between 3-3.5' I just may use led's all year round & start growing perpetually. I'm looking at led's everyday & the sellers seem to have something new each week. I'll see what's out in 5 weeks when I'm ready to make my purchase but right now these new ufos with the cree led's have my attention. I also like the fact this seller has over 5000 feedbacks with 100% positive feedback. I'll also keep on that over the next 5 weeks. lol

P.S. The sellers listings are not private which is good because I'm able to go look at what people made with best offers when they left a feedback to seller. I see one person paid 208.00 Who knows, maybe I can get 2 below 400 shipped.
Yea, seems like there worth trying out. When I get the cash maybe I'll pick one up since I want to get one for the veg room and also use it for flowering when i need too. If I can get it for $200 then I will deff purchase one.
That's what I love about LED's it's so much easier to control the temps since it emits almost no heat. Especially if your using a tent, temps in there rise real fast when using HPS.
 

mookie brown

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If I can get it for $200 then I will deff purchase one.

I searched the sellers feedback some more & did find someone who only paid 200 for it. I think when you're ready you will be able to get it for that price. I would still bid less & let the seller counter bid you, then keep going up in incriminates of $5 until he makes the deal. Who knows, you may get it for much less than you're willing to pay already.

P.S. Counter offer quickly the first couple of times, but if he keeps sending counter offers then you should pause for a couple of hours before you send your next counter offer to seller. I find them to make deals when I didn't think they would. I guess they think they are about to lose business if they don't take this latest offer because they are sensing the buyer is about to go elsewhere :mrgreen:

Stealthy my man !!
Teach me how to make hash !!!!
 

rocksteady6

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Stelth the hash looks pretty good. Looks a little green in the first photo but the next looks much nicer. Well done on making your own.
 

stelthy

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Damn Stealthy, you got some hash !!

Question for you, Is it worth my while to spend money on a kit to make hash from just one plant which is roughly 3.5 feet tall ?

What would you recommend for me to do to not let anything go to waste ?

On another note, These 90watt led ufo's seem to be changing every month from seller to seller. I found this guy on eBay who sells ufo's with cree led's. Depending on what other sellers have in 5 weeks which is when I harvest, I just may have to make a best offer for 2 of them. Check out this youtube vid & tell me what you think

[YOUTUBE]<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/k6o9BTexx20&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/k6o9BTexx20&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="385"></embed></object>[/YOUTUBE]

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2010-model-90w-HO-Cree-Lighthouse-Hydro-6-Band-USA_W0QQitemZ280470262396QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414d54927c
It all depends how you look at it man! I mean if you want to sell the hash from your one plant then NO! its not really worth it but on the other hand if you want to make something a little bit special once in a while for a personal pat on the back :) then YES! and its a very good clean cut high :) the more leaf/bud n trim used the more Hash you'll get ..providing your ladies have a decent THC coating, of course. The smell is worthy of any good quality Amsterdam Coffee Shop :) (very potent)!!! I used 2.5 oZ of average Jack Herer top trim and popcorn-buds and made 4.5 grams of High grade Hash !!

I defo. recommend not wasting as ice and cardboard are hardly pricey and you can use an electric egg beater in a container with MC gauzes and pull off a Hash making op. with mirrored results! You really just need MC bags but the pollinator is available on E-Bay and I am glad I bought one, its so easy!:hump: I'll check out the LED vids but am really looking forward to a 400hps setup now, so thats going to be a cab re-build in its self :) ...documented! :) - STELTHY:leaf:
 

stelthy

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Stelth the hash looks pretty good. Looks a little green in the first photo but the next looks much nicer. Well done on making your own.
Yeah the 1st one was like a practice go but the other 7 were top notch!! Am pleased I did it :) - STELTHY:leaf:
 

stelthy

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Micron bag's are prob the most expensive thing you need to buy, just make sure you do your research and buy good quality one's cos immitation ones are all over the place, I am off out with the missus for the day now! so I'll add pics of the MC bag's later along with there grades etc and show you how to put them in the bucket for a more in-depth overlook at my Hash making any questions or surgestions feel free to leave productive comments - STELTHY
 

mookie brown

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Hey everyone, You notice how Stealthy has hash & now he disappears for one day ? :mrgreen:

Stealthy, When I chop my girl down I plan on keeping all the buds to smoke. She's about 3.5' tall. When It's time to chop, she will have leaves that are coated with crystals which I would normally trash. I'd hate to throw them away this go around. I've never made hash before & I don't know if the trimmings would be enough for me to invest in what you bought to make hash for whatever I could get out of it off the trimmings from 1 plant ? Money wise is it worth it ? Another question I have is, Would I be able to use a space case herb pollen press / grinder to collect the crystals off the fan leaves / trimmings from when I manicure ? Something like that may be right up my alley. Whatcha think bro ?

:peace:
 

stelthy

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Hey everyone, You notice how Stealthy has hash & now he disappears for one day ? :mrgreen:

Stealthy, When I chop my girl down I plan on keeping all the buds to smoke. She's about 3.5' tall. When It's time to chop, she will have leaves that are coated with crystals which I would normally trash. I'd hate to throw them away this go around. I've never made hash before & I don't know if the trimmings would be enough for me to invest in what you bought to make hash for whatever I could get out of it off the trimmings from 1 plant ? Money wise is it worth it ? Another question I have is, Would I be able to use a space case herb pollen press / grinder to collect the crystals off the fan leaves / trimmings from when I manicure ? Something like that may be right up my alley. Whatcha think bro ?

:peace:
Lol, am I that transparent...well yes! I pre-rolled 2 blunts and a couple of spliff's starting with the weakest and working my way up to the most hardcore, I got ultimate pink eye lol and was well n truely baked all-day yesterday :) I also had 8 or 9 Heiniken's and a huge meat pizza. SO SO WASTED!:bigjoint:

What you have to do is get a polythene bag and keep all your trimmed leaf and popcorn buds within! and freeze the bag and its contents untill you require them! I wouldn't surgest getting a pollinator for just one plant unless you dont care about the cost and would be happy with making your own HASH in small ammounts over a long period of time... But like I say I didn't care about the cost I just wanted to make my own quality hash....so no regrets :)

If you mean putting each leaf through a spacecase it'll take you forever! lol, A cheaper way of doing it instead of using a Pollintor like me is to still get a 5 gallon container, get at least 2 bubble sacs I'd say grades :- 38mc (microns) , 75mc (microns) these will give you the most collectable THC put the 2 bags in the 5 gallon container smallest 1st bigger 2nd, now fill up the 5 gallon container by pouring cold water through the mc screens, and top it up with lots of ice, fill the 5 gallon container to just over t 3.5 gallon mark, and then place in the top and submerge a net bag with the leaves etc in (net-bag (work bag), this net bag will keep the leaf material contained and only allow Trich's ( THC) to excape and then be sived through the mc screens all you need to do now is stir it all up with an electric cake mixer, DONT SUBMERGE THE BEATER ABOVE THE MIXING BLADES ( ELECTRIC SHOCKS CAN BE FATAL!) after about 10 - 12 mins squeeze out the work bag and you'll have a container of green gold waiting to be sived, now slowly shake and rise up the mc bags 1 at a time and you ll end up collecting 2 different grades of Hash! more grades are achievable but that all depends on how many mc screens you buy I have 9 all in all! just scrape the collected wet hash off the screens with a spoon and place it through a sive and onto some brown cardboard to dry, once it is part dried (room temp) you can roll it, mould it store it and even smoke it right away the better the grade the cleaner and higher the smoke and the more the HASH will bubble hope this helps - STELTHY:leaf:
 

stelthy

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Today I decided to put both the lower half of my Jack Herer and my little Skunk/Cheese cross on a weeks worth of PH balanced flush ready for my last harvest! I am drying my buds on a rack in a dark drawer and turning them daily! and when the stems become snappable I will cure the buds in jars, then and only then will I weigh my harvest... I'll also do a step by step to making Hash! - fully documented this time and I will also be making a 63%abv THC Tincture, then I will be redesigning my stealth cab. ready to house a 400w hps setup, however I plan on starting a new thread for the 400w system but will add links to and from this thread, pleasant reading peeps watch this space FINAL HARVEST & FULLY DOCUMENTED HASH MAKING next!!!! - STELTHY
 
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