2x Big Diesel under 2x 900w LED's

Journal update: Day 31 of veg

They're responding well to the training, but still no definitive on sex per the pre flowers. With about two - three and a half weeks to go still plenty of time for them to show gender before flipping to flower.

Journal update: Day 33 of veg

I'm convinced at this point that three of the four plants are male.

So, I'll be taking clones from each tonight and then throwing them into flower to be sure.

Being that I'd like to keep my harvest schedule, instead of cutting clones, I'm thinking I'm just going to throw the three males outside and find me a couple rtf clones.

BotanyIsFun said:

Being that I'd like to keep my harvest schedule, instead of cutting clones, I'm thinking I'm just going to throw the three males outside and find me a couple rtf clones.

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sounds like a plan I'm gonna be starting over after this grow as I'm gonna take a break & redo my whole operation like I should of done in the first place

Journal update: Day 48 of veg.

The boys outside are doing well. And I've cut clones of the girl inside. I'll be ordering some colloidal silver soon as I plan to try my hand at making some feminized seeds with the two clones.

Finally went and picked up a couple of clones one OG and one GG #4. I'm more than likely going to toss one, if not both of the big diesel clones unless one shows some new growth within the two weeks. My colloidal silver came yesterday and I'm thinking of flipping the GG to harvest pollen. So, the plan is to give the clones a week to adjust to their new environment, spray the GG for another week, flip to 12/12, then spray reach day until the plant drops some pollen sacs, harvest the pollen, and then see what kind of seeds I can get out of the GG - OG cross. I'm pretty excited to try this out!

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Finally went and picked up a couple of clones one OG and one GG #4. I'm more than likely going to toss one, if not both of the big diesel clones unless one shows some new growth within the two weeks. My colloidal silver came yesterday and I'm thinking of flipping the GG to harvest pollen. So, the plan is to give the clones a week to adjust to their new environment, spray the GG for another week, flip to 12/12, then spray reach day until the plant drops some pollen sacs, harvest the pollen, and then see what kind of seeds I can get out of the GG - OG cross. I'm pretty excited to try this out!

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My gg4 clone has thrown nanners twice now least little bit of stress & it's on so far I've just plucked them off

horribleherk said:

My gg4 clone has thrown nanners twice now least little bit of stress & it's on so far I've just plucked them off

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While not ideal for you I'm sure, that's good news for me. lol!

BotanyIsFun said:

While not ideal for you I'm sure, that's good news for me. lol!

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Funny thing I'm seriously considering growing it

Where's the best place to get colloidal silver from? And I think next grow I'm gonna try to manifold one. I've never seen one completely done to harvest. It just seems like it would lower your yield. With only 2 mains. Why not top for 4 main colas. Just seems like 4 tops would produce more.

whytewidow said:

Where's the best place to get colloidal silver from? And I think next grow I'm gonna try to manifold one. I've never seen one completely done to harvest. It just seems like it would lower your yield. With only 2 mains. Why not top for 4 main colas. Just seems like 4 tops would produce more.

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I got my 240 ppm CS from Amazon, it was only about $7 for 2 oz. However, you can find it in a lower concentration at most health-food stores.

Think of the manifold like a scrog or a plant that's been fim'd nicely. The idea is to create 8 or more main colas instead of multiple tops with a bunch of popcorn nugs down below. When you create the manifold each cola is the same distance from the roots on the main stem providing and even distribution of nutrients. Nebula Haze was able to pull over 6oz from one plant using a 250w HID/ DWC set up. If you've got the time, you should check out the tutorials by Nugbuckets (the original mainline) and Nebula Haze (an updated manifolding method to help reduce veg time). They have lots of great info and go into quite a bit of depth regarding their methods. I think NB even has a thread on it here at RIU. Below are the links to their methods posted on growweedeasy.com

http://www.growweedeasy.com/mainlining-nugbuckets

http://www.growweedeasy.com/manifold

Yeah I read it last night. And I'm gonna try it. Well I was. I topped my pineapple express v2 and used the top as a clone. In a peat pellet. And today when I got home from work I went to pick up the peat pellet to see if any roots where sticking out. And broke the peat pellet apart and broke the only God damn root on it. It was rooting. I'm so irritated I almost put my foot through the pev2 I topped

whytewidow said:

Yeah I read it last night. And I'm gonna try it. Well I was. I topped my pineapple express v2 and used the top as a clone. In a peat pellet. And today when I got home from work I went to pick up the peat pellet to see if any roots where sticking out. And broke the peat pellet apart and broke the only God damn root on it. It was rooting. I'm so irritated I almost put my foot through the pev2 I topped

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That's rough! Sorry to hear it.

In regards to the manifold, I have to admit I'm pretty happy so far. The two mains are just as thick as the base.

BotanyIsFun said:

That's rough! Sorry to hear it.

In regards to the manifold, I have to admit I'm pretty happy so far. The two mains are just as thick as the base.

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I think I saved the clone. There was enough left to cut the stem off and redip it in rooting hormone. Just sucks I have to wait another week or so for rooting. But it's the top. So it will grow semetrically to do a manifold. I've read it's a little harder to manifold clones bc they don't start growing semetric. Unless you find one that's perfect. But the top I cut off is perfect. And I left the auto. But started soaking some more seeds. I through 3 barneys farms red cherry berry fems in water. I'm gonna setup my other tent and let the ol lady do them. But I'm definitely subbed for this. I wanna watch you manifold unfold so to speak. Good luck. Sry for the rant in the earlier post.

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Finally went and picked up a couple of clones one OG and one GG #4. I'm more than likely going to toss one, if not both of the big diesel clones unless one shows some new growth within the two weeks. My colloidal silver came yesterday and I'm thinking of flipping the GG to harvest pollen. So, the plan is to give the clones a week to adjust to their new environment, spray the GG for another week, flip to 12/12, then spray reach day until the plant drops some pollen sacs, harvest the pollen, and then see what kind of seeds I can get out of the GG - OG cross. I'm pretty excited to try this out!

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I'd love to run that gg #4. But nowhere around here to get anything like that. Especially clones. The closest thing I have to me is DC seed bank. And idk if they even sell clones. Let alone to someone out of state. Or if make the drive 5 hours away.

BotanyIsFun said:

That's rough! Sorry to hear it.

In regards to the manifold, I have to admit I'm pretty happy so far. The two mains are just as thick as the base.

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I tried a manifold and vegged for 10 weeks turned to be a male. I stressed it in the 7th week. Got knocked over hard! Got another one in veg like 4 weeks almost now. I topped once. 2 weeks ago and i just topped all the nodes yesterday. Guna lst whem i get it to stretch more. Get it all nice and mainlined like the last

Rolla J said:

I tried a manifold and vegged for 10 weeks turned to be a male. I stressed it in the 7th week. Got knocked over hard! Got another one in veg like 4 weeks almost now. I topped once. 2 weeks ago and i just topped all the nodes yesterday. Guna lst whem i get it to stretch more. Get it all nice and mainlined like the last

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If it was showing female preflowers before the stress occurred, and is still around it may be worth harvesting the pollen. Sounds like you've got a pretty good plan there though.

BotanyIsFun said:

If it was showing female preflowers before the stress occurred, and is still around it may be worth harvesting the pollen. Sounds like you've got a pretty good plan there though.

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Thanks pal. I had 1 harvest already this season. Had my hermie pollinate my 2 females in week 5 of flower. Got like 50+seeds i did crop the hermie At that point in time. Then threw the 9 weeker in flower and at the 10th it showed balls. I have a jack white female clone at week 2 at that time and didnt want it to spread. Jack white is almost 42 days flower 52 days since flip

whytewidow said:

I'd love to run that gg #4. But nowhere around here to get anything like that. Especially clones. The closest thing I have to me is DC seed bank. And idk if they even sell clones. Let alone to someone out of state. Or if make the drive 5 hours away.

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Glad to hear there may be hope yet for the cutting. No worries about the mini-rant earlier, we all need a little venting sometimes.

Yeah, I hear you on the scarcity of genetics. Though, it's not that bad in Oregon, we're pretty lucky up here, but sometimes you find a strain and want to keep it around for a while. That's why I'm taking the colloidal silver route with my GG and OG clones. Though, I may keep the standard male pollen of the Big Diesel boy I have outside to use on my Scotts OG next cycle as I think it'd be an amazing cross to breed normally. Once I find the girl that I like, clone her, and then work on stabilizing the genetics through feminized breeding.

BotanyIsFun said:

Glad to hear there may be hope yet for the cutting. No worries about the mini-rant earlier, we all need a little venting sometimes.

Yeah, I hear you on the scarcity of genetics. Though, it's not that bad in Oregon, we're pretty lucky up here, but sometimes you find a strain and want to keep it around for a while. That's why I'm taking the colloidal silver route with my GG and OG clones. Though, I may keep the standard male pollen of the Big Diesel boy I have outside to use on my Scotts OG next cycle as I think it'd be an amazing cross to breed normally. Once I find the girl that I like, clone her, and then work on stabilizing the genetics through feminized breeding.

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Those sound like some killer crosses.
Wonder what would cross well with my afghani #1. I can get different strain clones from my guy. Only 4 i can get are master kush, khalifa kush, blue grape diesel, and jacky white atm