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JDMase

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so, if you had the aforementioned space, growing in rockwool, so similar to coco and soil in terms of top feeding, two 600w hps, how would you run a batch of clones set for flower?
 
Renfro

Renfro

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JDMase said:
How many clones would fill an SOG of that size? I have no point of reference but it was my first thought to run one of those - maybe with some vert on the outside walls to maximise the space.
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Sorry that all my measurements will be in feet/inches.

I used to run SOG with 4x8 trays. I would have 96 clones in a 4x8 (7x7 grid minus 2 for the fittings on each end.) With 1kW HPS I pulled consistently 2+ pounds per light (48 clones). No veg but I would cut long 6" clones, and they rooted for 20 days (really rooted). I would then pot them into 6" square pots with expanded clay pellets and flower them. They would end up 40 - 44 inches tall (used a trellis to hole them up, lollipopped at day 20 of 12/12, they would have big fat 20 - 21 gram colas. Made for fast trimming. Ran that shit with the same strain (Shiva) for over 7 years.
 
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JDMase

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Renfro said:
Sorry that all my measurements will be in feet/inches.

I used to run SOG with 4x8 trays. I would have 96 clones in a 4x8 (7x7 grid minus 2 for the fittings on each end.) With 1kW HPS I pulled consistently 2+ pounds per light (48 clones). No veg but I would cut long 6" clones, and they rooted for 20 days (really rooted). I would then pot them into 6" square pots with expanded clay pellets and flower them. They would end up 40 - 44 inches tall (used a trellis to hole them up, lollipopped at day 20 of 12/12, they would have big fat 20 - 21 gram colas. Made for fast trimming. Ran that shit with the same strain (Shiva) for over 7 years.
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Thanks for the detail! That's really helpful for me to know. Looks like a pack of 24 root riot cubes wasn't enough haha
 
gr865

gr865

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JDMase said:
so, if you had the aforementioned space, growing in rockwool, so similar to coco and soil in terms of top feeding, two 600w hps, how would you run a batch of clones set for flower?
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Hey JD, long time no see. Glad your hanging in there.
In my 4 x 4 I am running 24 clones of three different pheno's. I am in coco, smart pots DTW.
 
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JDMase

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gr865 said:
Hey JD, long time no see. Glad your hanging in there.
In my 4 x 4 I am running 24 clones of three different pheno's. I am in coco, smart pots DTW.
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Thank friend. It's been a tough few months without flowers.
Sounds like I could run a perpetual 24 sog x4 in the space ive got then. Hmm..
 
gr865

gr865

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In coco with the 1 gallon smart pots is a lot of work.
I need a better pump, mine does 1.2 gallons per minute at 80 psi but don't think that is enough. Looking at a 5.5 g/m @ 65 psi and would like to reduce the noise level.
I will be back running a 5 plant vertical grow in the fall, but cut clones for the spring grow and thinking 16 plants instead of 24.
It's tough for me to get to the back plants but I have an idea for that.
 
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JDMase

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gr865 said:
In coco with the 1 gallon smart pots is a lot of work.
I need a better pump, mine does 1.2 gallons per minute at 80 psi but don't think that is enough. Looking at a 5.5 g/m @ 65 psi and would like to reduce the noise level.
I will be back running a 5 plant vertical grow in the fall, but cut clones for the spring grow and thinking 16 plants instead of 24.
It's tough for me to get to the back plants but I have an idea for that.
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All this pump talk gets me confused haha. I stick to my trusty watering can. Although..
Have you looked into blumats in coco? Automated watering via medium moisture. Apparently saves on water and nutes, may be useful with no noisy pump too. I know they have a version with a Mat which wicks or, a probe type thing which you stick in the pot. I'd like to try them.

I hand water, if I were to scrog or SOG id probably use a hose on my watering can or a tube with a funnel. Could turn out to be a pain in the butt haha.
 
gr865

gr865

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JDMase said:
All this pump talk gets me confused haha. I stick to my trusty watering can. Although..
Have you looked into blumats in coco? Automated watering via medium moisture. Apparently saves on water and nutes, may be useful with no noisy pump too. I know they have a version with a Mat which wicks or, a probe type thing which you stick in the pot. I'd like to try them.

I hand water, if I were to scrog or SOG id probably use a hose on my watering can or a tube with a funnel. Could turn out to be a pain in the butt haha.
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I have got blumats I can sell you cheap.
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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JD i neglected to reply since renfro gave you a great response.
But wanted to say, if using rockwool i wouldn't use a flood and drain set up. I would use a NFT table.
If i had the choice between flood and drain with clay balls or NFT with rockwool i would use flood and drain with clay balls.
It offers a far better way to get o2 to the roots with less of a chance of root problems.

I personally think you should put that watering can down and get automated to increase your chance of success.
I hand water myself but im a coco guy with small plant count, no way i would do it with a SOG.

Good luck though which ever direction you take.
 
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JDMase

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coreywebster said:
JD i neglected to reply since renfro gave you a great response.
But wanted to say, if using rockwool i wouldn't use a flood and drain set up. I would use a NFT table.
If i had the choice between flood and drain with clay balls or NFT with rockwool i would use flood and drain with clay balls.
It offers a far better way to get o2 to the roots with less of a chance of root problems.

I personally think you should put that watering can down and get automated to increase your chance of success.
I hand water myself but im a coco guy with small plant count, no way i would do it with a SOG.

Good luck though which ever direction you take.
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Yeah ive been thinking for a while about hanging up the can. I just don't really wanna water with timers and dial it all in. Too much worrying about over or under watering, timer issues and noise.

I used a claber system and I just sucked at knowing what my plants were getting. I think I'll go for a blumat. Flood and drain seems ok for rockwool, but I think top feeding is optimal.

Saying all this ive never done an SOG.

Ive got some time to ponder. :)
 
gr865

gr865

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JD, IMHO, you will hate Blumats, you have to fuck with them all the time. I thought I had mine dialed in, over a week and all was fine. Went on a trip and came back to 5 baked plants that were in week 5 of flower. Compost pile.
 
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