hornedfrog2000
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BTW these are Just starting week 2 also...? If yours were a couple inches bigger to start with then were pretty close to the same growth rate.
2x600 hps ebb & flow. Chronic, Grapegod, and Bluecheese. Single cola SOG.
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homebrewer
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Feed them with grow and protekt only at .7 EC. You may also need a bigger res. 20 gallons feeding 36 plants? I have 12 gallons feeding 12 plants and even I think I'm on the low side. If you don't upgrade the res, top off daily and monitor your ppm. Add back grow formula as needed and change to a fresh res every 7 days. The immediate issue; I think you're overfeeding these small plants.
hornedfrog2000
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I was only giving them 2ml of grow for 2 weeks. Then a couple days ago I upped it to 4ml. I do plan on getting a bigger res, but its just not in the cards for a month or so... I'm really broke because of xmas, and already spending money on this.
homebrewer
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You said in another post you were at 750ppm and using magpro. I don't think magpro is needed in veg and I think 750 is too high. Keep taps on that tray of yours daily. Until you get a larger tray, you should be adjusting things about every other day.
MEANGREEN69
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your useing dyna grow right? if so it says 2-3 tsp per gallon. 1 tsp=5ml. if the plants dont burn at the very tips of the leafs a few hours after a feeding slowly up the PPMs. they look a lil hungry if u ask me but still very healthy. cant wait to see these girls in action.
hornedfrog2000
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I think it does have a lot to do with my Res being too small. If you think about it, its just eating up the nutrients too fast, and probably at an uneven pace. I really do appreciate the input from everyone.
MEANGREEN69
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yeah could be. how many gallons are they drinking a day ATM and how many time are you flooding them a day? if you have a PPM/Ph meter you can watch then eat and drink: if the ph goes down their drinking water if the ph goes up their eatting. dont know if this works with organic nutes but powder nutes always seem to drop the PH when added in high concentrations. you can kind of learn the feeding habits of a strain by doing this and it just cool to watch.
Rick Ratlin
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Great grow, i am very similar as you. I run dyna gro in 3' by 2' trays ebb and flow with a 27 gallon tote, only filled to 18 gallons with no trouble with ppms or ph, I just have to change the res in 11 days instead of 14 days, feeding at 1.1EC in flower, I rarely have to top off. The plants do great. With veg, I feed 4ml protekt and 5 ml gro, about .8 EC with a start of 100ppm tap water. You'll probably recover when your roots get set. Much of the start depends on how strong and large your roots are from clone to transplant. when i'm running behind with clones, i'll use roots excelurator for the first two weeks in veg to catch up on my root zone, its expensive, but it works. Also, its easy to damage roots when transplanting to hydroton. Mag pro is probably not helping, its not needed till flower.
hornedfrog2000
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Ok, I just decided to flip them to 12/12. I put 5ml of protekt, 3ml bloom, 1ml grow, and 1ml magpro. I'm so fricking confused as to what concentration to use the nutes at anymore I just decided to go back to the lower amounts.
johny1212
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Those feeding levels are stupid high and is probably the reason he doesn't use it anymore.
Good call. I am still at 400 ppm/.8 ec and no issues. 4ml bloom 3 magpro 2 protekt
hornedfrog2000
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I think I'm going to call it quits on the perpetual thing I just dont think it will be worth it to mess with this many clones constantly. Not to mention the amount of mother I would need to do zero veg. I'm thinking about getting a 4x8 tent and just doing 12 plants in my ebb and grow. I think it would be a lot less stressful for myself, and that way I could have a few different strains. The clones I have are doing ok though.
hornedfrog2000
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It's just become more of a chore than joy at this point, and its stressing me out so I'll just go back to what looks more fun.
shufflebotlmfao
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hornedfrog2000
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IDK. If this first tray yields really well I might stick to it.
shufflebotlmfao
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come on man hang in there if nothing else will help u with next go around
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
It is a chore and at times isnt fun! I feel
You on that either way il still follow. The
Biggest thing to a perp is cloning its just
Got to have killer clones without issue
You on that either way il still follow. The
Biggest thing to a perp is cloning its just
Got to have killer clones without issue
hornedfrog2000
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How much do you think a guy could yield doing 24 plants in an 8x4 tent with 2x600s and using an ebb and grow? You think 2 oz would be doable per plant without over crowding issues? I would probably stick to bigger yielding strains like Chronic, white russian, etc.
Someguy15
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24 sounds like too many to me. in my 5x8 space I'm only using 15 and it's pretty crowded. Unless you were going to flower them early, like 2 weeks from rooting, I would say drop the count.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
I think 12 would be better but if you lst
Them and tripped them with 1 1/2 weeks
Of veg maybe 2 pounds
Them and tripped them with 1 1/2 weeks
Of veg maybe 2 pounds
drgreentm
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24 is going to be crowded. in my 10x10 im putting 20 and already 2nd guessing the amount. as it is i know i wont be able to even walk inside when its full! i would get a good 2-3 week veg in the e&g and aim for 3+ a plant, its achievable.