3 1/2 Month old plants.. Starting to give up?

cool. i missioned it to the growitall shop not too far from here, its proper. i picked up root cubes, a lid and the tray for the dome.
The cloning is ready whenever the momma's are. I'll update pictures in a second.

update: here are the pics

how far should i place the lighting from the dome? i dont want melting plastic o.o

clones dont need a bunch of light. so as far as you want.

I've enjoyed reading your journey, and glad to see you've turn two of the girls around. Just wondering if you ever wiped the leaves off...the ones with the white drips on them? Idk if it matters or not, but I'd be cleaning them up.

The plant on the left looks like it still needs more soil and that is why it doesn't have much for foliage. imo

I read somewhere once and it's stuck with me...I don't clone any plants grown from seed until they are 8 weeks old. Something about maturity. I could be wrong too I'm sure someone will pick up on it

I noticed you like to do things with your plants alot (transplanting and such) and I just want to stress before you clone...don't go checking on them for roots every day like my fiance likes to sneak and do. I feel it's like...a watched pot doesn't boil...leave their cubes alone. Just keep them at a pleasant temperature and try not to mist too often. I mist the dome more than the plants.

Good luck man hope to see how your grow finishes out.

inspiredgardener said:

I've enjoyed reading your journey, and glad to see you've turn two of the girls around. Just wondering if you ever wiped the leaves off...the ones with the white drips on them? Idk if it matters or not, but I'd be cleaning them up.

The plant on the left looks like it still needs more soil and that is why it doesn't have much for foliage. imo

I read somewhere once and it's stuck with me...I don't clone any plants grown from seed until they are 8 weeks old. Something about maturity. I could be wrong too I'm sure someone will pick up on it

I noticed you like to do things with your plants alot (transplanting and such) and I just want to stress before you clone...don't go checking on them for roots every day like my fiance likes to sneak and do. I feel it's like...a watched pot doesn't boil...leave their cubes alone. Just keep them at a pleasant temperature and try not to mist too often. I mist the dome more than the plants.

Good luck man hope to see how your grow finishes out.

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Im glad this thread brought satisfaction to someone other than myself

Ive never considered whiping it off as it has no effect on them. its mainly dry dew. not a big deal at all.

I know, the plant on the left does have minor issue with rooting right now but i will let the roots grow out of the recently-buried stem. I'l add more soil ontop in a week or so

Yes, I also read that a plant needs to be more than 2 months old before being cloned. Would you believe me if I told you that these plants are 4 1/2 months to 5 months old now? LOL!

Checking up on my plants is one of my favorite things to do. Thanks for the tip to stop me from doing what i enjoy! :'(
Im just kidding ;p

How often would you say you mist them a day? I'm thinking 2-3 times to begin with, mainly on the dome lid but a bit on the clones aswell.

Oh my lord.
I can't take one comment made in that long paragraph seriously,
Are you like the head of state for bad advice ??
I think you might change your research tactics
There is so much spaghetti in that statement i can't be bothered to un tangle it.
Some ppl really should stay off the net.
Why give advice when you dont know what your on about, you just like to type yeah ??

if i wanted to listen to an asshole, id fart

Alpha.
Spray your veg plants and clones as often as you like,
Absolutely mist your clones that are not rooted its the only way they can get water,
Despite what was typed, your plant has no idea how much soil is above the root mass.

alpha don said:

If I do decide to germinate, Could I start my plants in the larger pots?
starting 24/0 for sprout, 20/4 once they sprout, 18/6 for vegetation and then end it with a 12/12?
would it be okay to feed 10-15-10 NPK during germination and sprout? cut it off during vegetation, and introduce nitrogen when i start flowering??

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Dude go read some of the sticky threads in newbie secton. There is so much wrong with what you wrote. Start in smaller pots and pot up. Much better for them as a huge pot of soil will hold way too much moisture for a seedling. 24 20/4 or 18/6 are fine for veg just choose one and use it. Do not use ANY fertilizer during germination or sprout especially if they are in time release ferted soil. You dont need fertilizer until the plants are well established. Late veg is when you will need it not when you cut if off.....Nitrogen is an essential VEG nutrient and very much less needed past about 2 weeks in flower...flower is not when one should introduce N.

alpha don said:

Im glad this thread brought satisfaction to someone other than myself

Ive never considered whiping it off as it has no effect on them. its mainly dry dew. not a big deal at all.

I know, the plant on the left does have minor issue with rooting right now but i will let the roots grow out of the recently-buried stem. I'l add more soil ontop in a week or so

Yes, I also read that a plant needs to be more than 2 months old before being cloned. Would you believe me if I told you that these plants are 4 1/2 months to 5 months old now? LOL!

Checking up on my plants is one of my favorite things to do. Thanks for the tip to stop me from doing what i enjoy! :'(
Im just kidding ;p

How often would you say you mist them a day? I'm thinking 2-3 times to begin with, mainly on the dome lid but a bit on the clones aswell.

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Where are you getting clones? not off those plants. 4 1/2 months old? Plants should be healthy when you take clones otherwise you are propagating ill health. 4 month old plants can be 4 feet tall and absolutely should have massive amounts of braching...i dont see any yet.

Clean leaves breath and transpire better wipe em off.

If you do get to where you can clone...do not mist 2 or 3 times a day...mist at time of cutting mist dome...put dome on and leave em the feck alome for about 5 days...overmisting is detrimental.

Hoestly not trying to be a jerk but are you trolling?

alright Alpha, I have been with this thread since it started man and i have given you tons of direction. some may not be the same direction others have suggested and thats fine, im not saying im right and they are wrong or visa versa.

heres what i am saying. i really want to help you out but i cannot help someone who dosent want to help themselvs. its been 2 weeks now since you started this thread, you have done things to your plants despite being told not to (like transplanting) and you seem to have a new noob question every day.

i strongly suggest you look at those stickeys i took the time to post up a few pages back

watch some videos on you tube, george cervantes has a few of them and theres millions of others.

read read read. all of us have done it and its time for you to stop relying on the couple people here on this thread to answer every basic question you have. your getting tons of mixed info here and its not helping you at all. There is information all over the net on how to grow this plant. I suggest you take some time every day and dive into a new subject, watch videos and educate yourself.

ill be here to see if you get any improvments but i dont think ill be answering many more questions. I have helped quite a few people from start to finish with sucessfull grows but those people went out and did thier own research based off my advice, then a little more as they began to understand things a bit better.

my last suggestion, plant new seeds and just get rid of them 4 month old stressed to shit plants and start new. plant them in a large enough pot to finish out in and leave em the hell alone.

you need..

lights (check)
soil (check)
fan (check)
plain water (check)

thats it. no nutes...nothing else!!!

do this and in 2 weeks you will have a plant that is larger and 10x more healthy than the 2 you have now. then once you have a nice healthy plant you can start thinking about doing some cloning.

and best of luck with your grow man
RMTB

I totally agree with that statement...
The starting post is never easy for the inexperienced,
But its meant to be enjoyable.
Matt's list is bang on, if uncomplicated it can't go wrong.
Maybe.
Un subscribed .

you all wait until my babies sprout. you will totally regret telling me to kill them once im finished.
another 1-2inches of height overnight. she's just as determined as I am and wont give up.
appreciate the basic tips to get my growing back on track.
Guess i'll take it from here.

On the contrary...we gain nothing nor do we lose anything no matter what you do...but you will probably regret not.starting over. A 5 month old plant that is 8 inches talk has suffered through what should have been it's prime growing age. IM sure now that you have taken some advice and fixed some issues that they will grow but I wouldn't ever clone a plant with such a horrible life. You want vitality.

Oh i see. the plants genetics. sigh.
Let me plan my procedure right this time.

what is your plan Don?

if your truly interested in knowing..

I left them to grow. theyre growing.
I will be leaving them in vegetation for as LONG as they need.
Come to think of it, Righty is 100% fine so her entire life-span will be spent under vegetation. She is a true born mother.
As I mentioned before, cloning is only ready when she is.

On the side, I'm working on critical sensei star. so far it's been germinated, and I will be introducing her into the system very soon.
Everything is perfectly fine.

Will show an update in the next few days or so.
Thanks for stopping by



I wont be around much since im in nicotine withdrawal. about 7 days in. my time has been going into replacing the habits, giving me time to work with these babies more

I actually was interested and your tone almost turned me off...then I saw the nicotine comment so...congratulations on giving up the habit.
Do your research on your special plant and she'll return the love.

haha yeah i've been acting much differently since i quit.
normal symptoms tho.

I will look into her more, thanks! She's looking beautiful actually. I mean the leaves growing on leaves growing on leaves is just an amazing thing.
Such a sculpture.
I would sneak in and take a picture now but she sleeping LOL
Next time

RetiredMatthebrute said:

oh and your overwatering them big time. mor elight...stop watering..this will help you considerably

and when i say stop watering i mean stop watering. not skip 1 day.....they probably can go almost a week without water right now. also make sure your pots are allowing excess water to drain out the bottom

in your post you say you have been researching. not sure where but this thread here is a great place for you to start.

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/937-how-grow-marijuana.html

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I was hoping some one would say it by the time I got to the end of the thread and retired matt got it to much water with those you nrrd at least 250 watt hid or t5 the nutes are fine ! the saging leaves and slow grow is from to much water they need to get a little dry for roots to grow!!!also also ur 14-10-14 will need to be changed to 5-20-15 or somthing close to that when you switch to 12/12
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