3 plants in flower, same tent, light, ph/water/nutes: 2 plants budding like champs, one is not. Help please!

Van X Man

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Hi, long time listener, first time caller! Thanks to everyone in advance, there is a wealth of knowledge here that got me this far...

As title says, I have 3 Sensi Seed Feminized Super Skunk plants (from the same 3-seed packet) in flower for exactly 4 weeks now. Same tent, same light, same water/nutrients/ph (mix a lot and then distribute to plants), same everything. They are in 20L airpots, watered 3L each every 2nd or 3rd day depending on thirst.

Organic growth using BioBizz soil and nutes. Using 1.2mx1.2m tent with 600w MH HID lamp with a Secret Jardin Daisy parabolic reflector.

They were in veg for about 7-8 weeks. SCROG ain’t great (had to redo parts at 2 weeks flower). But same done for all 3 plants.

Two of them are budding like champs. Nice pistils, sticky buds.
One is lagging behind: very compact close buds, barely any pistils, and the leaves are a tad weird (can not find comparisons in the many deficiency/over-abundance charts or descriptions).

I did check the flowers of all plants for male parts, and to me it seems like there aren’t any sacks. Not sure if this is worth investigating further, as they are feminized. I know it’s not a guarantee, and hermies are possible, but I don’t find anything to indicate males. Should I cut a few flowers off and dissect them?

What gets me is that 2 are perfect and the 3rd, despite doing everything the same for all 3, is not happy...

Any thoughts or advise please?

PS:
the first 2 images are the good flowers.
the 3rd is the problematic one.
the 4th pic is the tent, and you can see most of the flowers mid-right belongs to the one problematic plant. They are spread around a bit due to the SCROG though. But it’s all attached to that one plant! I considered light/heat stress, but even the buds nestled between the nice-growing buds of other plants are the same stunted growth.
can add more pics if anyone requests...
 

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Van X Man

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Hi, long time listener, first time caller! Thanks to everyone in advance, there is a wealth of knowledge here that got me this far...

As title says, I have 3 Sensi Seed Feminized Super Skunk plants (from the same 3-seed packet) in flower for exactly 4 weeks now. Same tent, same light, same water/nutrients/ph (mix a lot and then distribute to plants), same everything. They are in 20L airpots, watered 3L each every 2nd or 3rd day depending on thirst.

Organic growth using BioBizz soil and nutes. Using 1.2mx1.2m tent with 600w MH HID lamp with a Secret Jardin Daisy parabolic reflector.

They were in veg for about 7-8 weeks. SCROG ain’t great (had to redo parts at 2 weeks flower). But same done for all 3 plants.

Two of them are budding like champs. Nice pistils, sticky buds.
One is lagging behind: very compact close buds, barely any pistils, and the leaves are a tad weird (can not find comparisons in the many deficiency/over-abundance charts or descriptions).

I did check the flowers of all plants for male parts, and to me it seems like there aren’t any sacks. Not sure if this is worth investigating further, as they are feminized. I know it’s not a guarantee, and hermies are possible, but I don’t find anything to indicate males. Should I cut a few flowers off and dissect them?

What gets me is that 2 are perfect and the 3rd, despite doing everything the same for all 3, is not happy...

Any thoughts or advise please?

PS:
the first 2 images are the good flowers.
the 3rd is the problematic one.
the 4th pic is the tent, and you can see most of the flowers mid-right belongs to the one problematic plant. They are spread around a bit due to the SCROG though. But it’s all attached to that one plant! I considered light/heat stress, but even the buds nestled between the nice-growing buds of other plants are the same stunted growth.
can add more pics if anyone requests...
Including side-view pics of (1) good and (2) bad buds...
 

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Van X Man

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Bump! Any thoughts, please?45CB4486-B169-4D4B-A090-EE259FE7CEFF.jpeg4E2E8FD5-8E3A-4BDC-9720-E45C0319994D.jpeg

Updated pics of good vs bad buds.
Weird that bad buds have a significant portion of browned pistils already, whereas good buds still have multiple weeks to go.
 

Dopesmoka

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Hi, long time listener, first time caller! Thanks to everyone in advance, there is a wealth of knowledge here that got me this far...

As title says, I have 3 Sensi Seed Feminized Super Skunk plants (from the same 3-seed packet) in flower for exactly 4 weeks now. Same tent, same light, same water/nutrients/ph (mix a lot and then distribute to plants), same everything. They are in 20L airpots, watered 3L each every 2nd or 3rd day depending on thirst.

Organic growth using BioBizz soil and nutes. Using 1.2mx1.2m tent with 600w MH HID lamp with a Secret Jardin Daisy parabolic reflector.

They were in veg for about 7-8 weeks. SCROG ain’t great (had to redo parts at 2 weeks flower). But same done for all 3 plants.

Two of them are budding like champs. Nice pistils, sticky buds.
One is lagging behind: very compact close buds, barely any pistils, and the leaves are a tad weird (can not find comparisons in the many deficiency/over-abundance charts or descriptions).

I did check the flowers of all plants for male parts, and to me it seems like there aren’t any sacks. Not sure if this is worth investigating further, as they are feminized. I know it’s not a guarantee, and hermies are possible, but I don’t find anything to indicate males. Should I cut a few flowers off and dissect them?

What gets me is that 2 are perfect and the 3rd, despite doing everything the same for all 3, is not happy...

Any thoughts or advise please?

PS:
the first 2 images are the good flowers.
the 3rd is the problematic one.
the 4th pic is the tent, and you can see most of the flowers mid-right belongs to the one problematic plant. They are spread around a bit due to the SCROG though. But it’s all attached to that one plant! I considered light/heat stress, but even the buds nestled between the nice-growing buds of other plants are the same stunted growth.
can add more pics if anyone requests...
Did you notice any discoloration on the leaves of the bad 1?
 

Van X Man

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Did you notice any discoloration on the leaves of the bad 1?
Yes, if you look at the 3rd pic of the original post you can see some yellowing around the edges at the base of the leaves on the bud itself. Well, not yellowing per se, more just a lighter/whiter green. But unexpected regardless.

Rest of the leaves were fine though...
 

Dopesmoka

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Yes, if you look at the 3rd pic of the original post you can see some yellowing around the edges at the base of the leaves on the bud itself. Well, not yellowing per se, more just a lighter/whiter green. But unexpected regardless.

Rest of the leaves were fine though...
What exactly are you feeding them and how long has it been going on ? I thought I had stunted a plant but I actually overwatered and it was slowly dying
 

Van X Man

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What exactly are you feeding them and how long has it been going on ? I thought I had stunted a plant but I actually overwatered and it was slowly dying
I was following the BioBizz schedule, using everything on the list (grow, bloom, acti, alg, heaven, top, etc as directed).
Noticed the difference when the plants really started budding properly (around week 3)? The other plant's buds just exploded while this one plant stayed very close.

Initially (seedling and early veg) I overwatered a bit and got a bit of stunted growth (but on all 3 plants). Sorted that out with good draining soil and 6L Airpots, and was probably under-watering just a tad. But now got it nailed at 3L per plant every 3 days in 20L Airpots. BioBizz does not require massive run-off, so I make sure there is some, but not much.

All 3 plants get the same quantity, mix 10L, pour into 5L pressure pump, 1.5L on each plant. Repeat. (PS: the additional 0.5L per 5L goes to a happily-growing/flowering clone in a 6L Airpot).
 

Dopesmoka

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I was following the BioBizz schedule, using everything on the list (grow, bloom, acti, alg, heaven, top, etc as directed).
Noticed the difference when the plants really started budding properly (around week 3)? The other plant's buds just exploded while this one plant stayed very close.

Initially (seedling and early veg) I overwatered a bit and got a bit of stunted growth (but on all 3 plants). Sorted that out with good draining soil and 6L Airpots, and was probably under-watering just a tad. But now got it nailed at 3L per plant every 3 days in 20L Airpots. BioBizz does not require massive run-off, so I make sure there is some, but not much.

All 3 plants get the same quantity, mix 10L, pour into 5L pressure pump, 1.5L on each plant. Repeat. (PS: the additional 0.5L per 5L goes to a happily-growing/flowering clone in a 6L Airpot).
Wow that’s weird they look good tho I would either flush that 1 or just let it ride out and chalk it up to bad genetics on that seed
 

Van X Man

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Wow that’s weird they look good tho I would either flush that 1 or just let it ride out and chalk it up to bad genetics on that seed
Jaaaaa, kinda resigned myself to that... I am maybe 1-3 weeks away from harvest, fixing anything now and having monster buds is not really feasible.
I did do a small quick-dry sample, and although it was harsh and maybe still too early to harvest, it did have a nice mellow to it. Will cut and cure and see...
 
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