300 watt Jillybean SCROG

Here is my Jillybean grow journal. This is a legal medical grow and will be my third time growing, the first fully indoors and the first time using a SCROG.

Equipment/Set-up:

• Space: 4 1/2' x 3' homemade grow-cabinet
• Lights: Two 150w. HPS from HTG Supply
• Growing Medium: Black Gold Organic
• Containers: 7gal. Smart Pots from start to finish
• Nutrients: General Organics Bio-Thrive Grow/Bloom/Ca+Mg, Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed, Plant Success granular mycohrrizae
• Strain: TGA's Jillybean (obtained from Harborside Oakland)
• # of plants: 2

So let me know what you guys think, any help would be great!!

Here is my cabinet... Starting with no supplies the final cost for materials (lumber, paint, screws, chains for lights) was $117.32 (not including vent fan, thermometer, timer, lights, etc.) and took one weekend to put together. The dimensions are roughly 3ft. wide, 4 1/2ft. long and about 5 1/2ft. tall.

The lights I am using are from HTG Supply via their eBay site (free shipping!) and cost about $75.00 each including the bulb. The total of the two lights came to $145.90. As for the other equipment such as timers, thermometers, and the vent fan, the total of all that after shipping came to $87.91. In the previous post I wrote that the lumber, paint, screws and hanging chains came to a total of $117.32

So, the final cost to set up just the cabinet with no soil, growing containers, clones or nutrients, came to $351.13.

So these are the Jillys right after being topped. They were planted on July 14th, and these picture were taken on July 19th and 20th. They were each left with 4 main shoots coming out. No nutrients were being given at this point, just plain water, which I know is supposed to harbor plants and cause nutrient lock-up amongst other things due to the chlorine levels, but its what I have always used and it seems to work just fine. Someday I wish to have to the space to be able to try things side by side like that and see if it really does make a difference. But for now I'll just stick to what I am capable of.

Here they are 8 days later on July 28th, looking good...
At this point they were being fed with the General Organics Biothrive Grow and their Ca+Mg supplement. I also forget to mention that before I planted the clones I mixed in a little bit of the mycorrihzae with the soil. The lights were initially running on the 18/6 schedule but has since been moved to a 22/2. I never liked the idea of leaving the lights on 24 hours a day, not for the plants sake they would love it, but to me it just feels dangerous leaving them constantly running.

Lookin good buddy.

Two days later on the 30th...

very nice, plants are looking great.

Here they are yesterday on the 3rd of August...
I dont really have a full-on feed shedule and all that, I just feed them when the soil starts to lose moister which is about every 2 days or so, and have been giving them nutrients with each watering. Coming this Monday I might flip the lights, not sure yet though, if not I will let them go one more week and flip on the 15th.

Don't give them nutes with every watering. It suppose to be every other watering. That way you won't get salt build up in the soil and it won't lockout.

Yeah that was my initial though when I started feeding them, every time cant be good. One of my main concerns this time around is flushing, since their in the screen and I cant really take them outside to get rid of the run off water. Would you say when harvest time comes around, the classic fresh water for 10 days will be enough to get all the excess out? Or should I maybe make the final flush a little bit longer since I wont really have a way to flush in the middle of the growth cycle?

How are you planning on flushing since you're growing in soil and doing scrog?

Well not necessarily flushing in the way you would with a hydro set-up where they drain out the reservoirs and all that (or however they do it, I haven't looked into hydro too much). I guess the proper term in soil is "leaching". But last time I grew I would take the plants outside from time to time, and if the plant was in a 3gal. pot I would run at least 3 gallons through it to clean out buildup and what not. And i know to stop feeding nutrients at least 10 days before harvest to let the plant use up whats already in itself. So my question is since I cant "leach" this time around during the middle of the growth cycle to get rid of excess buildup, should I extend those 10 days at the end to accommodate for all the extra buildup that might be in the soil?

No the proper term is flushing. With soil, say you had a 2 gallon pot. You'd flush it with 4 gallons of water. 3 gallon pot, 6 gals of water, ect ect. What I was wondering is how do you plan on flushing it since you're growing in a scrog screen. I know it can be a little difficult flushing soil when you're doing a scrog grow and was curious to know if you had any plans.

So far the only good way I found to flush when the plant is trained in the SCROG is if I can come upon a dry/wet vacuum to suck up the run off with. That book Secrets of the West Coast Masters is pretty much dedicated to the SCROG technique, and that is what they say to do about flushing with a SCROGed plant. If I cant find one of those I'm gonna have to get clever!! But after a quick Googleing a dry/wet vacuum is simply a shopvac and we have one of those, just gotta make sure it can suck up water.

2nd day of 12/12 cycle.

How many days did you veg them for?

I planted on the 14th of last month, so about 3 and a half weeks.

Well it’s been quite a while since I’ve done an update of these bebes so I thought I would share what’s going on. The plants are making some nice stinky buds and they are real nice and fuzzy here on day 29; I have never smoked any of the Jilly and I’m making a note of it to go and find some before mine is done to see how it compares. The smell is vey citrusy just like every one has been saying; I have grown the Querkle and that strain shares the Space Queen heritage as well and these two smell similar, but the Jilly is just oranges to the max. I had to battle a minor pest problem in the time that has passed. In one of the earlier pictures I posted if you look at the side of the pot there’s a little fucking moth hangin out, and that is what gave me the problem. Apparently the moths lay eggs in and they hatch into these tiny ass little caterpillars. I started to notice that something was eating the leaves, so I went into radar scanner mode and ended up finding a few of them. I went and bought some caterpillar killer and it didn’t really work at first because I wanted to start light to not hurt the plants, but I amped it up a little bit more and it took care of them. It also seemed like they would hide under the pot, because I would find them crawling up the sides a lot, so after a good watering the runoff really took care of any that were under there. Overall I am satisfied with what I have so far for being my first grow in a year and the first with the set up I have. There are definitely a few things I have learned that I am going to do next time around the main one being MORE PLANTS. Initially the idea of the SCROG was appealing to me because you could have the potential to yield some much from so little. But I don’t have enough experience with SCROG to know how to train it right. These things got fucking OUT OF CONTROL! They are way taller from the idea I originally had. So right now there are a good handful of these much taller heads with the nice chunky buds on top, but then all around there are other buds that are way far out of the light. The buds out of the light are still going to be nice, but not nearly as nice as the big fuckers, and I want consistency with the final product and want to be able to get the most out of the equipment I have. So I think if I go with 4 plants it will be easier to train and keep more uniform and there will be more thick stalks and tops to utilize. And if I am able to keep it all level this time, I will be able to have the light closer to ALL of the tops. Also with more plants I will be able to keep the veg time shorter. One other problem I had was the fact that when I built my cabinet, I built the screen into it. There are a few problems with this, the biggest two being the fact that it is a bitch to move up and down, and it’s really annoying when you don’t need it. I also think that is why these plant got so gangly, because I just wanted to get them into the screen. I just said “come on, come on I wanna see this fuckin thing work!” Next time I’m going to make something new so it can just be placed over when I need it. Well I think that is all for now, ill start to post more pictures now that we’re getting into the fun parts!!

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