38 days in flowering , white hairs but no buds.. whats wrong

Tundra said:

i change the nutes every week , and about the roots, i wouldnt know cus the plants that got left behind and werent getting any light and died and i didnt removed thwm till i thought about it, well i didnt want to move the roots but then i notived they was turning brown and some slimy stuff so i removed them, hopefully it didnt damage all the roots, well if the roots are supose to look white like they did when i was veg, then no they are not.
how long it take for your BM buds to swole up? i see a bucnh of pistils but no bud really..
so my roots dont look healthy?

and what nutes did you give your BM is did you flower it for 11 weeks?
mine are on week 6 and shouldnt they be bigger/
starting to get worried cus they are not getting swole

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I think the roots are the root of your problem (no pun intended) I change my nutes every two days as you will run into probs like root rot which you may have already had if you are talking about 'slimey' roots.. I had this problem once & I rinsed of the damaged roots under a tap, (the old dead roots just fall off) so I was left with roots that were still salvageable, then give them fresh water & nutes, make sure you change the reservoir every two 2-3 days max..

Do you have a airstone in the reservoir too? If not, I highly recommend one

I gave my BM 'Ferro' nutes which are tailored made for my water (It's a Dutch nute) you can buy over the net..very good results with this stuff! http://www.acorn-wholesale.co.uk/newsite/ferro.htm

I flowered mine for 8-9 weeks & I had big swollen buds after about 5-6 weeks, they put on a lot of extra weight in the last two weeks though..

edsthreads said:

I think the roots are the root of your problem (no pun intended) I change my nutes every two days as you will run into probs like root rot which you may have already had if you are talking about 'slimey' roots.. I had this problem once & I rinsed of the damaged roots under a tap, (the old dead roots just fall off) so I was left with roots that were still salvageable, then give them fresh water & nutes, make sure you change the reservoir every two 2-3 days max..

Do you have a airstone in the reservoir too? If not, I highly recommend one

I gave my BM 'Ferro' nutes which are tailored made for my water (It's a Dutch nute) you can buy over the net..very good results with this stuff! http://www.acorn-wholesale.co.uk/newsite/ferro.htm

I flowered mine for 8-9 weeks & I had big swollen buds after about 5-6 weeks, they put on a lot of extra weight in the last two weeks though..

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yea i got an 6" airstone, and i got a dripper too i turn it on when i turn on the lights. but i might be using the wrong lights cus i should see some swole buds by now. the roots got a tan color but no slimy stuff, the ones that did were the 2 dead plants i removed them wheni relized it, maybe light is getting in and thats why they turning brown.
how much is the Ferro nutes?

lucky you got big swole buds at 6 weeks, , im on week 6 and i just see pistils, but no buds,
and alot of leaves be blockin some budsites but i as told not to cut any leaves off . and some of the pistils are tunring redish brown.

ooooh no i was doing some reading and i came across hermies, hopefully i dont got that, cus i check my plant everyday, and some of them pistils are turning brown, or red, thats a preflower that its a sign of hermies, but i just see pistils, i dont seed any pollens.

i seen growers put pences around the plant. what does that do?
does it train it like will you get more budds like that?

oh damn my blunt turned off my homeboy hookd me up, cant wait till i smoke my own, ifthe buds even swell up,
but i don't see it turning blue either, did yours turn blue?
who ever gets at me i really do appreciate the knowledge
on my next grow ill have better nutes and a ph tester cus really i dont know the ph level, when i was on veg. i would use rain water when it rained, but mostly tap water, but i thought the plant food would get it even out.

maybe i just got's to wait, i mean ill waie, but thing is i see all these plants on week 6 and they all swole up, and on mines i just see the pistils and one gots a lil bud but very lil'.

Tundra said:

yea i got an 6" airstone, and i got a dripper too i turn it on when i turn on the lights. but i might be using the wrong lights cus i should see some swole buds by now. the roots got a tan color but no slimy stuff, the ones that did were the 2 dead plants i removed them wheni relized it, maybe light is getting in and thats why they turning brown.
how much is the Ferro nutes?

lucky you got big swole buds at 6 weeks, , im on week 6 and i just see pistils, but no buds,
and alot of leaves be blockin some budsites but i as told not to cut any leaves off . and some of the pistils are tunring redish brown.

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I would personally start again & make some hash out of what you have.. that's what I would do anyway.. no point wasting leccy on a plant that's pretty stressed out..or not gonna yield well.. It may just be bad genetics, poor lighting, light leaks into the res, or a mixture of all the above!... start a fresh if you can mate..You have to keep on top of DWC grows, if you don't monitor them closely they can give you allsorts of probs & quickly too

The Ferro nutes are about 20 quid for the A+B which you use for the whole cycle (just adjust the amount you give for the stage of growth they are at)

i think you need stronger lightening. i'm not familar with that strain, but the leaves look like a sativa and they can take 12-15 weeks, again depending on the strain. you might just be a little early yet.

shannonball said:

i think you need stronger lightening. i'm not familar with that strain, but the leaves look like a sativa and they can take 12-15 weeks, again depending on the strain. you might just be a little early yet.

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i thought it might be sativa cus it got pretty tall, but it was bushy that was before leaves started fallin off, and alot of them was dying maybe cus they wasnt getting enuff light,
yea i might need more light but right now its on 90 degrees. if i had more light it will get too hot in there . but it says Blue mystic is Indica, i think i just veg too long, i veg for 2 months.
but i notice alot pitals turning brown or red.
what lights you got?
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but i still got 5 weeks left, it says 9-11 weeks flowering.
and i dont got no more seeds to start over. and they expensive

Hey bud, sorry for taking so long to get back to you.

I have a total of 6 42W CFL's 2700k & 4600K spectrum. That coupled with the lights from my AeroGarden (CFL), Distilled water only, 1 TSp of Food Per gallon of Distilled water.
Vegged 24/7, Flower 12/12

The Strain may also be a factor. Nirvana's Blue Mystic is typically short and compact. This may attribute to the "swolenss" of the buds in relation to yours.

I do not add anything to my Bloom (Flowering Nute). Nor did I add to the Veg Nute.

Good luck!

krozone said:

Hey bud, sorry for taking so long to get back to you.

I have a total of 6 42W CFL's 2700k & 4600K spectrum. That coupled with the lights from my AeroGarden (CFL), Distilled water only, 1 TSp of Food Per gallon of Distilled water.
Vegged 24/7, Flower 12/12

The Strain may also be a factor. Nirvana's Blue Mystic is typically short and compact. This may attribute to the "swolenss" of the buds in relation to yours.

I do not add anything to my Bloom (Flowering Nute). Nor did I add to the Veg Nute.

Good luck!

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yea i checked out you grow journal for BM and at 30 days of flowering and your buds are looking about done, how is that, im passed that and i barely got any buds on mine. and for lights i got
a 7000 lumen 500 w13" Biggest and best CFL bulb growth+bloom in 1 full spectrum
105 watts used but output is 420-500 watts.
5000k full spectrum

and the other one might not be for bloom,
its a 6500 spectrum 200 watt output
and i got a 23 watt one, that one isnt blue ,
i know i need to get a 2700k spectrum, maybe thats i really not getting any buds.
but if i get new nutes i cant get the light.

well im bout to get the fuse lit

hey guys rookie here just gotta question i had a vegg and it was time to move it (kinda route bound) then i moved it to a 16 gal bucket and it took off but. my question is do i have to flush it with more water now that is in a new bucket (never use nutes once in 16 gal .) and only thing i use was molasses and guano 1-10-1 what do you think guys

Simple 6500 is wrong you need 2700k, just change CLFs and grow on. next time you know Veg 6.5 (ish) and Flower 2.5 (ish)

Yep, wrong spectrum, it's that simple. You have the wrong lights. You're trying to flower with veg lights. "Full spectrum" don't mean diddly.

bad genetics of that Pheno... You could grow good huge buds under damn near any light with great genetics. I would look for a better plant before I start switching everything up if I were you...

Wow, answers all over the place here. You need to light proof your res and focus the lights closer to the plants. You should also add a stronger fan and blow it at the light to keep the heat moving around the bulb. As the heat stays stagnant around the bulb it builds up and this makes it worse. Changing your spectrum may help as well but you need to get the basics of hydro down first. Make sure in anything you run hydro that there is never light touching water and your reservoirs are indeed light tight. You can take a flashlight and hold it to the res and if you can see any light on the other side it's not good. Also your fine with running nutes for a week or two even, as long as your monitoring your ppm's and pH. Otherwise changing it weekly is best, every two days is insane IMO. You would waste nutes to the point that it won't even be worth growing after your expenses. You should also manage the water temperature in your reservoir, 68 is ideal and anything above 74 is looking for root rot. If you have to keep it below 68 with frozen water bottles in your res make sure your not below 60 or so. You also add stress when you go above or below the temps too far. A good way to control temps is to use a cooler as a res.

Remember two things when using CFL's for lighting, they do not penetrate into the canopy very far and are better purposed with many smaller bulbs spread over the plant than one large bulb concentrated over the top. If you want to run flouro's I would look into T5's or T8's because they run cool and if your run a plant in a scrog or flat they produce well. Learning the basics of hydro will do you well as it seems your doing okay for having a lack of equipment and experience.
Cool water, no light, balanced environment in DWC grows big buds!
KnB

One more thing that no one addressed is the brown pistils, this is most likely heat stress that is causing this. Good luck with your grow!
KnB

Insufficient quantity of CFL's in the wrong spectrum is the problem. More lights, preferably on 'Y' connectors, in the 2700k range ought to do it. I used atleast 10 lights on a 6 plant bubbleponic setup and I got DECENT results, I feet like I should have had more lights going...

As for brown pistols it is likely just stress from proximity to lights or of being asked to produce without all the conditions being right, not 100% sure on it, but it is not of much concern compared to having no bud.

darkdestruction420 said:

You should get a meter and test your ph, you dont ph the water you use right now? or am i misunderstanding. If your ph is not in range it really limits the plants ability to uptake nutes and such.What is your temps at?

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Did I miss what range of CFM you are using for exhausting your hot air out and what size is grow area and size of intake for fresh air? Sounds like a heat issue with above mentioned lighting issue. IMHO Me thinks you have a compounding problem with your flowering.

aroma therapeutically yours,
DangSwag

You are doing hydro but don't check your PH? That is your biggest issue! Without having the PH in the proper range for the plant to be able to absorb the nutes out of the water, you are basically starving your plant. Hard to develop buds when it doesn't have any food to do so!

You guys must be really high heheh.

It's been two and a half years since this thread and his last post on 07-27-2010.



I'm pretty sure he either figured it out or gave up by now.

lol black good eye.

blacksun said:

You guys must be really high heheh.

It's been two and a half years since this thread and his last post on 07-27-2010.

I'm pretty sure he either figured it out or gave up by now.

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WOW... LOL
Good catch, here I am seeing latest post and responding... duh pay attention to details...