400W HPS Stealth Armoire...1St Grow

You thinking about having any co2?

No, I don't think I can. My fan is on at all times to bring in fresh air. If I use CO2 I don't think it will be in the cab for very long. Plus, I'm out of funds. I now there is some homemade CO2 tutorials out there, but I don't think I will be trying it anytime soon. Have you used it in your grows?
 

Punk

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yeah a hps may veg them better but he has a height restriction so to keep node spacing tight and the plants short and compact floros r the best choice.. so bullshit to u sir.. if he continues wit his hps veging at 23" away he will run into a ton of problems stretching, burnt plants and no longer a sog or scrog.... but hey thanks for playin now move along:roll:

IF and only IF you're using equal wattage.
 
Ummm I dunno anything about scrog man sorry. I can't be much help there as I've never done one.

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Ok. I got another question. Two of the clones are looking stronger and perkier than the other one. It's droopy and looks smaller. What could be causing this? Is it normal to have a plant lag behind? They are all clones from the same mother. I'll post pics tomorrow if that helps. Enjoy your Saturday night. Peace
 

sweetsmell

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No, I don't think I can. My fan is on at all times to bring in fresh air. If I use CO2 I don't think it will be in the cab for very long. Plus, I'm out of funds. I now there is some homemade CO2 tutorials out there, but I don't think I will be trying it anytime soon. Have you used it in your grows?

you could put your fan on a timer. But for the shortage of funds I understand 100%. Oh and for me using it on my grows, I dont grow ;-)
 

greenfirekilla420

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I took 5 clones off my big girl about a month ago and so far I'm left with 1 good looking clone. The rest died. Is each one getting the same amount of water, at the same time and all that good stuff. How often are you watering them?

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I took 5 clones off my big girl about a month ago and so far I'm left with 1 good looking clone. The rest died. Is each one getting the same amount of water, at the same time and all that good stuff. How often are you watering them?

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Whats up Killa. I think I might have been under watering them now. I watered them last night and Sofia (smaller one) responded by being perky, even looked taller this morning. I have not been watering them as much cause I don't want to over water them. I took your advise about feeding them some nutes, they don't appear as lime green anymore, so I plan on giving them so more nutes today at a higher dosage. They are in 3 gallon bukets and I had been watering them every other day. When do I know that their roots have reached the resevoir? Once they do, I know I only have to water every 2-3 days, but right now I'm still trying to figure out when I should water them. Ever since I overwatered them to begin with, I have been hesitant to do to anything now. I will try to post pics by tonight, but if not, it won't be past tomorrow. Thanks for the help. Peace
 

tical916

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I`m working with a similiar sized grow groom, in a boxed off area inside a closet. Good to here you are not having any heat issues. I`m using a 400w in a cool tube and heat was my biggest concern. Love the armoir I had a similiar setup with flouros in my old apartment.

yeah a hps may veg them better but he has a height restriction so to keep node spacing tight and the plants short and compact floros r the best choice.. so bullshit to u sir.. if he continues wit his hps veging at 23" away he will run into a ton of problems stretching, burnt plants and no longer a sog or scrog.... but hey thanks for playin now move along:roll:
Don't listen to this guy, I don't know where he is pulling this info from.. As long as you aren't expirencing any heat problems and your plants aren't burning you are fine. Your plants will either stretch because the light is too far away, or burn because the light is too close not both... :roll: And a sog and scrog or two totally different things... So quit acting like you know something.. :eyesmoke:



I would raise the hps light some. The upturned leaves usually means the plants are getting blasted with heat.


Watering is sort of a lazy man's science. Wait for the plants to need water than over water your plants. Check the soil every every day, when it's getting dry add some water. If your plants are less than 1 ft tall, watering every other day is most likely too much. The droopy plants are telling you their overwatered..

I`ll be w atching this, excellent build man. good luck on your plants.
 
I`m working with a similiar sized grow groom, in a boxed off area inside a closet. Good to here you are not having any heat issues. I`m using a 400w in a cool tube and heat was my biggest concern. Love the armoir I had a similiar setup with flouros in my old apartment.



Don't listen to this guy, I don't know where he is pulling this info from.. As long as you aren't expirencing any heat problems and your plants aren't burning you are fine. Your plants will either stretch because the light is too far away, or burn because the light is too close not both... :roll: And a sog and scrog or two totally different things... So quit acting like you know something.. :eyesmoke:



I would raise the hps light some. The upturned leaves usually means the plants are getting blasted with heat.


Watering is sort of a lazy man's science. Wait for the plants to need water than over water your plants. Check the soil every every day, when it's getting dry add some water. If your plants are less than 1 ft tall, watering every other day is most likely too much. The droopy plants are telling you their overwatered..

I`ll be w atching this, excellent build man. good luck on your plants.
Thanks for the advise dude. If your having trouble with heat, try a heat shield for your hood, it fixed my temp problems.
 
What are you talking about when you say reach the res? I understand your in soil right? What are you talking about with a res.?

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Hempy buckets are just a bucket filled with 3 parts perlite/ 1 part vermiculite with a 1" hole 2" from the bottom. The lower 2" of the bucket is considered my reservoir. When watering, I just have to add water until I see it draining out of my 1" hole. This is one of the easiest growing methods I have read about using the Lucas formula with GH Flora series nutes.

I will post some easy to follow instruction for the Hempy bucket method if anyone is intrested. Thanks for the support Killa.

Update pics coming tonight.
 

tical916

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I've never used that technique, but that sounds like a lot of water for fresh clones. I've always used pots with holes in the bottom so any excess water would drain out the bottom into a pan.

Hempy buckets are just a bucket filled with 3 parts perlite/ 1 part vermiculite with a 1" hole 2" from the bottom. The lower 2" of the bucket is considered my reservoir. When watering, I just have to add water until I see it draining out of my 1" hole. This is one of the easiest growing methods I have read about using the Lucas formula with GH Flora series nutes.

I will post some easy to follow instruction for the Hempy bucket method if anyone is intrested. Thanks for the support Killa.

Update pics coming tonight.
 

greenfirekilla420

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Ok gotcha I know what your talking about now. Ummm I've heard that your supposed to water what like once a day or something or as soon as the res is empty one of the two. In flower I wouldn't let 'em get as dry as you would let the get in veg though. But don't over do it at the same ya know.

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tical916

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Looking good, they're definitely growing fast.

Are you just venting outside into your room? Also sucking air from inside the room?
 
Looking good, they're definitely growing fast.

Are you just venting outside into your room? Also sucking air from inside the room?

Yea, air comes from the same room its vented. I have the cab in my living room. The temps are always in the 70's as long as my room temp. is in the 70's. I don't have AC but the temps in the Bay are perfect for growing. The heat shield for my hood solved my temp. problems. Before I installed it, temps would range 10-15 degrees over the room temp at 12". After I installed it it ran 2-5 degrees above room temp. This allowed at least 10" more of vertical growth in my cab. I only run the light for 18hrs (6pm-12pm) so that I avoid the heat peaks during the day.
 

tical916

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Wow that heat shield made such a big difference? Mind if I ask where you got one.

Yea, air comes from the same room its vented. I have the cab in my living room. The temps are always in the 70's as long as my room temp. is in the 70's. I don't have AC but the temps in the Bay are perfect for growing. The heat shield for my hood solved my temp. problems. Before I installed it, temps would range 10-15 degrees over the room temp at 12". After I installed it it ran 2-5 degrees above room temp. This allowed at least 10" more of vertical growth in my cab. I only run the light for 18hrs (6pm-12pm) so that I avoid the heat peaks during the day.
 
Wow that heat shield made such a big difference? Mind if I ask where you got one.

Yes it did. I never even knew they sold them. I was initially trying to make one on my own. When I Googled heat shield material I came across this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTMuMu04i6Y

This is where I purchased it. You will not find it any cheaper (new). Everything I purchased was researched over and over for best prices.

http://www.hydroponics.net/i/134244

I was on disability for 5 months so I had a lot of time on my hands. First month all I did was smoke and lay in bed. Next 3 months I read this forum, J. Cervantes Grow bilbe and whatever I found through Google. Last month was dedicated to building the cab. Now that I'm done I find myself looking for another hobby to take up my time. Anyone in the Bay need help building thier cab?
 

greenfirekilla420

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Damn your doing a good job on maintaining temps. You could raise it a bit more in veg to get things rolling like its summer time outside but thats up to you. Everything is looking good kiu bro.

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