4x4 Tent - Blue Hash and A-Train

smokingrubber

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ALMOST had a catastrophy last night. I was going to bed at about 11:30 and something in the back of my head told me to go check the room. I did, and I found that 1 light was still on! The timers are identical and they both appeared to read the same. I didn't want to screw with it at 11:30 so I just flipped the breaker and went to bed.

The lights were supposed to go out at 10pm so an extra 1½ hours of light probably won't cause too much problem. I am pretty sure this is the first night this occured. I went into the garage yesterday morning before work and the lights WERE out. I think I'm safe. I had to ask a friend to go to my house and manually turn the lights on at 10 today.

I tried to fiddle with it this morning but appears the OTHER one is broken now! I don't know wtf is going on. I didn't want to continue turning the ballasts on and off at 7am. It must be "operator error". I had JUST :bigjoint: my breakfast so I figured I would deal with it later.

I can't wait to retire :)
 

smokingrubber

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Cuz I don't have a 240v splitter and cuz the timers say that I should run 1000w max ... not 2000w. One timer would be much easier at this point.
 

laserbrn

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Video looks really good. Seems like you aren't very far along in 12/12 (First week still?) and those plants are already giants. I think you're going to have a forest in there man.

My guess is 2.5 lbs if you can keep it under control. They all look very indica dominant so it shouldn't get too unruly, but it's gonna be a tight pack.
 

smokingrubber

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Video looks really good. Seems like you aren't very far along in 12/12 (First week still?) and those plants are already giants. I think you're going to have a forest in there man.

My guess is 2.5 lbs if you can keep it under control. They all look very indica dominant so it shouldn't get too unruly, but it's gonna be a tight pack.
Thanks. It was a quick video just cuz everyone else is showing off their stuff. I'll do another one when the budz can be the stars of the show ;)

Yeah, it was day 10 into flower. And a week of that was under a single MH. I'm seeing a lot of hairs and teeny bud sites. If 9 weeks is XXX porn, this is PG-13 still :)

They're getting bigger by the second. I have to raise the lights about 2 inches every day it seems. I've only got about 16 inches left that they can go up. The plants are about 12 inches from the light. These 8 plants are drinking MORE than 2 gallons of water a day!

I think 2½ lbs is a pretty good guess. I'm hoping for 3 but I won't be disappointed with 2.

Judging by their development so far, I would have to give LA Woman and A-Train high marks. They are both definate DO AGAIN plants. I like the way they grow. Dense foliage but still thin enough that there is a lot of growth on the inside. THICK stalks that tell me she's getting ready to hold up some lbs. Lovely plants to grow so far.

Blue Hash is a plant that likes to grow straight up. My experiment with LST wasn't executed properly with them. I tied them down but released them all when the process was abandoned. This caused all of the shoots to bunch up in a big vertical wad. The center mass is getting little light past the outer leaves and not much inner growth. The one good plant is the runt. That's the one that I broke the top off of and now it's got 4 main shoots nicely spread apart. In my notes I will recommend topping Blue Hash not LST in the future.

The Lemon Skunk is a sativa and it appears to be doing well. Not fantastic or very impressive like ATrain, but it will still be a very good plant and it'll be some nice change-up bud. It's got some room to spread out and fill in so it could easily be 2-3 zips dried. We'll see.
 

smokingrubber

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$434 electric bill. OMG! And I had the 2000w running for only half that billing period. Holy crap. I'm going to have to find some idigent person and put the bill in their name just for the cheaper rates.
 

Bob Smith

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$434 electric bill. OMG! And I had the 2000w running for only half that billing period. Holy crap. I'm going to have to find some idigent person and put the bill in their name just for the cheaper rates.
Yikes.

With how expensive electric is and how cheap weed is out there (I mean here ;-)), it almost doesn't even make sense to grow.

The electric this way is a 1/4 of that and the weed costs 4X as much.
 

shnkrmn

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Sorry, I don't have the link but I was shopping around the other day and saw a light sensor switch that flips on when a light comes on. So you could have one light on a timer and the other on this gizmo. So when the timer flips one light on the light causes the sensor to turn the other one on. It was being sold as something to put your fans, etc on, so they would come on when the light timer says.



Cuz I don't have a 240v splitter and cuz the timers say that I should run 1000w max ... not 2000w. One timer would be much easier at this point.
 

smokingrubber

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Yikes.

With how expensive electric is and how cheap weed is out there (I mean here ;-)), it almost doesn't even make sense to grow.

The electric this way is a 1/4 of that and the weed costs 4X as much.
;-) If I get 2½-3lbs ... the math still looks pretty good from here. Weed ain't THAT cheap.
 

Bob Smith

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;-) If I get 2½-3lbs ... the math still looks pretty good from here. Weed ain't THAT cheap.
Yeah, the money always seems to work out in the end ;-)

Not sure why I didn't think of this before, but the link below is of a guy who does a very similar setup to you (just with one extra light) - you should check it out, he got ~6lbs. off of 3 1Ks. Was just looking over his thread for something I had asked him earlier and then realized you would probably find it worthwhile to give it a read.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/237271-lucas-formula-hydroponic-grow-journal.html
 

smokingrubber

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Yeah, the money always seems to work out in the end ;-)

Not sure why I didn't think of this before, but the link below is of a guy who does a very similar setup to you (just with one extra light) - you should check it out, he got ~6lbs. off of 3 1Ks. Was just looking over his thread for something I had asked him earlier and then realized you would probably find it worthwhile to give it a read.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/237271-lucas-formula-hydroponic-grow-journal.html

Yeah I've read that thread. Impressive. I don't really believe his final weight report, but even close to that will be nice.

By the way my room looks now, I could easily believe 3lbs+ when it's all done. We'll see :) I don't want to count my chicken before they're hatched. Anything can happen between now and then.

I'm seeing a LOT of new growth in my tent. I had to top LA Woman because she was growing about 4 inches a day. Oh well, it's only one plant and hopefully the other branches will fill in more than they would have. I would estimate that the plants have grown about 12-16 inches in the last week. It's an absolute jungle in there and everything is completely filled in. Every little tip has a beautiful little bud growing on it. It's wonderful. Now I just need the fukrs to slow down on the vertical a little. I can raise the light up another 8 inches and that's it! No more. It's gonna be real close with some of the plants. I'm only on day 17 flower.

Can I super-crop them during flower? That would probably be preferred over chopping the top off (like I did to LA Woman)? I don't want to, but if the height does not slow down I'm gonna have to do something.
 

smokingrubber

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Yesterday, my power went out for about 4 hours. Right in the middle of my light cycle! My lights went on at 10am, the power went out at 2. Came back on at 6 and the end of my cycle is at 10. (I had to reset all the timers). How bad is that?

Everything appears to be back on schedule. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

PS. I haven't received any of my beans yet.
 

laserbrn

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Yesterday, my power went out for about 4 hours. Right in the middle of my light cycle! My lights went on at 10am, the power went out at 2. Came back on at 6 and the end of my cycle is at 10. (I had to reset all the timers). How bad is that?

Everything appears to be back on schedule. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

PS. I haven't received any of my beans yet.
It's not a big deal. You lost 4 hours of light, but this happens all of the time. The one you have to watch for is the light coming on in the middle of the dark cycle, that's shitty.

To the plants its as if a storm rolled by and it was dark, if the lights come on in the middle of the night it's like the sun came up in middle of the night...little stressfull.

It's more complicated than that, but that's a simple way to look at it. As long as the plants receive 12 hours of interrupted darkness they will be just fine.
 

smokingrubber

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Thanks Laser. It was really dark in the garage so I was a little worried. A few weeks ago, while I was remodeling the garage, I had to put the plants on the patio. It was an overcast day but the patio still STANK. This time, I thought the same thing would happen since the fans were not running. But there was no smell at all. Well there was a little smell, but not STANKY like it was when it was on the patio. I assumed it was because photosysnthisis completely shut down. That's the part that has me concerned about the extended dark period.

But like you said, at least they still got their 12 hours of dark. It may have set them back a little by messing with their internal clock, but probably not severe. It would have been worse if I were still vegging.
 

smokingrubber

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I haven't done pics in a few days, so check it out. They're growing like WEEDS LOL!



Check out the FAT stalks on Blue Hash. She's easy to spot, her stalks look like broomsticks! She's definately getting ready to "Hang Weight" :)

I've strapped the light to the roof. I can raise it another 2 inches, but that's IT. I hope that's enough.
 

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