5 o'clock's subcooled garden.....

Sorry I kinda feel like im just jumping in here ... but I feel lucky because last night I was gifted one lucky bean of The Third Dimension.... I know Subcool made it by finding sites that list it for sale... does anyone know anything else about this strain by any chance?

What would happen if we combined the genes of three ultra potent Elite strains all with very different flavors but similar high types? This is the question I set out to answer when creating our new release “The Third Dimension”. The strain Apollo-13 has long been a favorite of mine and many other collectors, it has a very unusual taste and an amazing high. Only 500 of these seeds were ever produced and those lucky enough to grow her never let her go. I have focused a good deal of my breeding efforts in back crossing her looking for the best make up to create an Apollo like hybrid in seed form. We have out crossed her with Black Russian, Space Queen and Now a Combination of SQ and Jacks Cleaner. The second part of the make up is Space Queen a BCGA hybrid of Romulan and Cindy99 and delicious cross with a candy/mango flavor.
The final part of this potent three way is of course my famed Jacks Cleaner mom. If it sounds complicated it was and also a lot of work but thanks to the great people at Heads you will be the first to hear about the project.

Having had great success with our cross Jack the Ripper (JC X SQ) we decided to work with a male and pollinate the Apollo as we also use her to test a males attributes in a known cross. This means we have made a lot of hybrids using her and by growing out her off spring we can determine if he is a good male or not lending either potency and or a different flavor. Once the seeds were mature and removed from the buds I allow the outer husk to dry for 2 weeks and then I refrigerate them for 2 nights stimulating winter, this also removes moisture as well. I am going to try something a bit differently here and pretend I am your average Joe Stoner growing some plants and only having room to start 2 seeds. This will narrow my odds considerably getting a keeper mom but it’s the same real world choices you guys make everyday when it comes to making some head stash of quality meds. I started the seeds in Rapid rooters and transplanted once they established roots. The plants grew very well and under a 400 watt MH grew up fast, I was able to sex one of these at least a full 2 weeks earlier than the other, well that question has been answered and started just 2 seeds we have had great luck and have 2 females. They’re starting to mature enough that there taking on noticeable characteristics. I don’t see a huge difference in the two plants and at 30 days they look pretty much alike.

I am happy so far with this initial run and I can see traits from both mother and father. I mentioned one reason for this cross is to learn how dominant the JTR father we have chosen is going to be. JC parents are known to dominate crosses and Apollo-13 is or base line female since I have grown it out so many times and now also bred with her working this sibling cross will give me a good indication of how the father will react with other moms with use. The plants were transplanted into 5 gallon containers and topped to form a nice bush and when they hit 24” in height they were budded.
These are the signs I am looking for,
Early resin with fast formation of trichome heads and quick maturation of same. This will indicate a Apollo-13 dominant trait. Also I am looking for the weird funk/spice smell A-13 has to shine through and I have that as well. Now I am not testing the strain so much as running it for my own pleasure but while I am at it I will take notes on things to look for in larger generations. One day we will select either Vortex or The Third Dimension to keep as a main TGA strain but for now we can all enjoy the journey. It’s no secret I am a big fan of what Mr Soul did and I am just playing along following the path he blazed.
The shorter female I am extremely excited about having started only 2 seeds and finding an Apollo dominant female means to me anyone getting a pack has a very good chance of it as well. At day 28 she already smells like Apollo momma, heavy resin and short structure with thicker stems is dead on target I couldn’t wait to see what the second half of bud growth brings to us.

Day 35 and beyond



You never stop learning and the biggest leap forward in knowledge has been working closely with both Apollo and JC as well as the man plant Space Dude. We are learning what is locked inside the JTR male visually at first and by this point by fragrance. First off. The Apollo dominant female we call Jane is spot on the mark with A-13 looks and traits with a beefier frame and an added sweet I can’t place yet. Maybe from the Cindy but I was hoping for this exact make up in a female.


At 35 days you can see trichomes that are fully amber just like with A-13 and most are fully formed so were taking speed from the mom and the Bi-father SQ. I added support stakes after this shoot but I could have gone longer A-13 won’t stand up at all at this stage and that alone is a huge plus. I will of course stay on top of this so we can see what we have created. I am also happy to announce that unlike some of our gear this is a Sub project and you won’t see it going away of running out of stock. Just the outcross of JC x SQ and then selecting a male took over a year I don’t plan on loosing my male.

The sativa Dominant female is starting to pack on the buds though and this girl may get huge and hopefully not take forever. She stretched like crazy and I was sure at this point based on smell and resin build up, the buzz will be very speedy with high THC content with virtually no CBD’s, the taste to me is kinda metallic to go along with the spicy smell.
As the Indica reached maturity she took on very tropical smells almost like a Pina Colada or some other frozen drink containing fruits and pineapple. The resin continued to expend and she matured very rapidly. I took her at about day 50 and she was just dripping with resin and gave up 2 ounces of dried cured buds. For a plant not even 36” tall finished I am happy with the results and will keep her in my garden.
Here are my smoke notes
Toke 1#
Sampling very small micro nugs so they will be dry. Inhale is smooth and reminds me of a passion fruit drink I used to get in summer camp. Exhale is smooth and also surprisingly sweet. Instant lobe floating and I started smiling the second I exhaled.
Toke #2
Large inhale and crosses my eyes.
Excuse me one second
Subcool does the happy dance across the Room “IT TASTE GOOD! I am getting High!
Ok that’s what they call a conniption fit I believe.


Toke #3
Our bongs a simple straight glass piece with a large water bin.
I use a simple cheap V shaped 3 hit that I pack about ¾ full and I pull it through in one hit clearing the toob as well. Sticky takes about 3 hits to my one and this is not a diss to Sticky but a reference as to how large a hit I take.
I exhale a cloud


The Buzz on the Indica was soft and pleasant and I sat staring at my pc for quite awhile but I didn’t feel the need for a pot nap but ended up doing a photo shoot. I found myself smoking a lot of this strain in the following week even though I have full jars of some of my other favorites.


The sativa took a full 9 weeks to mature and as predicted the buzz was very racey and not to my liking however a good friend of mine that loves the energy head buzz of pure like sativas absolutely loves it. Even though the plant was very tall it’s total yield was only 3 ounces. I did a smoke test on this one and found the smoke to be flat as airy buds tend to be but after 3 hits I was soaring along jamming to music and smiling my ass off.
No one would complain about its potency and high but its not up to my standards on taste but variety is the spice of life!

The results of my little “plant 2 seeds” idea went very well and I pulled almost 5 ounces and some amazing bubble hash from these two plants. The Indica has been cloned and topped and is just entering bud as I type this ending. I am happy to give this one my stamp of approval!
The Third Dimension is available at
www.cannaseur.com
www.breedbay.co.uk/auction/index.php
www.Hempdepot.ca
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sweet story. great post. awesome pictures. tanks for that entertaining and informational read.

wow thanks for that response ! great information indeed..... Now I see why he was extremely excited to give me this beaner... he said he got the 10 pack a few years back and now im hoping this is from the original batch of around 500 or so ! I will keep you guys updated I won't be starting her until winter for my grow - room is having a re-model.

You the man Five!! what a playa

I ran out of steam with this post lol lovely porn 5

lovely lovely indeed, mrWeStIe. many thnks for such .... such ....... tantalizing photos ...! Walking on in a gooey sortofway.

Pic update.....
Fist is the Strain I pollenated the Vortex with.. Then the SnowDawgs, DQ's, and the Vortex.. The clones.. The DQ#7 that broke off.. The mom's..? (still no pistols) The nodes are looking good.. The JTR#1 nodes are sooo tight.. I almost have all the pollen I want so I'll be discarding the male..

so lemme get this straight you went into a cupboard with some jazz mag, 10 mins later came out with this and made this?

fine work 5!

Naw my friend... The Vortex went into the bathroom with the latest High Times and came out with that. Andf the little lady in the pic was on the recieving end of his mess.... My camera sucks and I can't get close enough to get a good pic of the mother to be but she is covered in trics and is only 5 weeks in. The smell from this one plant when you mess with the buds overpowers everything in the room. I'm hoping for a good mix with the Vortex. I think The Vortex #1 (VG) is male also as well as one of the Snow Dawgs and DQ. I'm getting concerned with the lack of pistols on the preflowers of some of the other plants also.....

dont panic just yet 5 ive seen plants go near 3 weeks 12/12 before they've shown, should be some interesting results, did you love juice all over her or just some lower branches? expecting millions of seeds or a branch full?

great posting 5 ... looking like this is goonna be so worth sitting in and watching. thanks for your updates!! Walk On!~

You a PIMP 5, im liking the pics too lol.

Don Gin and Ton said:

dont panic just yet 5 ive seen plants go near 3 weeks 12/12 before they've shown, should be some interesting results, did you love juice all over her or just some lower branches? expecting millions of seeds or a branch full?

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I only did one lower branch. I love this plant and only had one of 28 I grew out on the last grow. So it's a little special..... I have some more that went in on the last rotation that I might put more pollen on but they are so far behind because of the larger plants hogging the light. That will be taken care of next Monday. I will give them another water on Thursday night, a good long soak. Then Flush them on Friday with Clearx before I leave on the canoe trip and Chop them when they are dried up on Monday.....

tahoe58 said:

great posting 5 ... looking like this is goonna be so worth sitting in and watching. thanks for your updates!! Walk On!~

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Thanks. I won't be that far ahead of you going into flower if your not cloning first. It will be interesting to watch the grows side by side..... Step drag.. step drag on.....

mr west said:

You a PIMP 5, im liking the pics too lol.

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I've still go tthe Querkel and the Reeferman Grapefruit to grow out. Maybe I'll grow out some of these crosses then..... Wish I had a camera like yours, but I'm so broke I can hardly pay attention....

hey man. I won't be cloning .... though I suppose i might change my mind , I doubt it though. I really am just interested in growing some killaweed for my own consumption .... and am really not set or prepared to get too deep into the technical aspects of breeding and cloning and stuff. That time will come, just not now.

in the meantime a lot of ground still to cover to get anywhere with these girls .... (yes I subscribe to the power of positive thinking)

It's 5 o'clock somewhere said:

Thanks. I won't be that far ahead of you going into flower if your not cloning first. It will be interesting to watch the grows side by side..... Step drag.. step drag on.......

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Well 5, u inspired me to get some man juice for my young gals lol. As luck would have it i gave my mate 2 seed plants that turned out male and i harvested some satori pollen. Ill take some pics of wot i got tomoz wen im alive lol

satori is another one of "those" that are on "that" list "that" I keep .... growstodo inthefuture .... nuthin at all like MILF inthefuture ... by reminded me of that .... yea satori is supposed to be a major league player.

If u get the right pheno yeah its spankin weed, smells divine and is a big yeilder. not having a selection of males to choose from is a bit of a pain but ill take what i can get. Ill just take a pic of the nuts i cut for ya

hey ...westie ...looks like he's shooting blanks ... hehehehe .... no pic?