502 passed, what does that mean for patients?

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levit

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So what changes for patients with an authorization now? Since it has to be all state controlled do we lose the rights we have with growing? Is our authorization pointless now?
 
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bongwaterbob

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You get only one ounce for a 60 day supply, only 5 plants and the state will now know you are able to grow. The patients are getting screwed imo
 
ShadowMouseKiller

ShadowMouseKiller

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No. We can still grow. Its the non medical users who dont have the previledge to grow. Good luck with paying over 350 for an ounce. Suckas!!!!
 
colonuggs

colonuggs

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bongwaterbob said:
You get only one ounce for a 60 day supply, only 5 plants and the state will now know you are able to grow. The patients are getting screwed imo
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When/how did I-502 amend patients right to 24 ozers and 15 plants?? ......RCW69.51A

I-502 had no effect on patients except that now the police will have acces to mmj patients personal information.
 
Ganjapussy

Ganjapussy

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colonuggs

colonuggs

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Ganjapussy said:
"in effect" meaning what? You can't grow it, you can't buy it, and you can't sell it. Where's this imaginary oz coming from that's suppose to be legal? And yet, you can't walk down the street with a gram in your pocket unless you wanna be blood tested? It'll start when the government starts selling to us... 2014
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Actually its not the government that will be selling marijuana to us ...its private citizens like you and I that will apply and get the licenses to manufacture, process and retail the marijuana...sure the state might open a few stores but they wont have a monopoly

Initiative 502’s impact on the Washington State Liquor Control Board

Summary

Initiative 502 would license and regulate marijuana production, distribution, and possession for persons over 21; remove state-law criminal and civil penalties for activities that it authorizes. Tax marijuana sales and earmark marijuana-related revenues. The new tightly regulated and licensed system would be similar to those used to control alcohol.

Licenses and Fees

Creates an application process that mirrors the liquor license application process
Creates three new marijuana licenses: producer, processor, and retailer. The fee for each license is a $250 application fee and $1000 annual renewal fee.
Marijuana Producer: produces marijuana for sale at wholesale to marijuana processors and allows for production, possession, delivery, distribution.
Marijuana Processor: processes, packages, and labels marijuana/marijuana infused product for sale at wholesale to marijuana retailers and allows for processing, packaging, possession, delivery, distribution.
Marijuana Retailer: allows for sale of useable marijuana/marijuana infused products at retail outlets regulated by the WSLCB.
The initiative allows the WSLCB to charge fees for anything done to implement/enforce the act. For example, fees could be charged on sampling, testing, and labeling that would be the cost of doing business as a licensee

Marijuana Taxes

The initiative creates three new excise taxes to be collected by the WSLCB:
Excise tax equal to 25% of the selling price on each sale between licensed producer and licensed processor. Paid by the producer.
Excise tax equal to 25% of the selling price on each sale of usable marijuana/marijuana infused product from a licensed processor to a licensed retailer. Paid by the processor.
Excise tax equal to 25% of the selling price on each licensed retail sale of usable marijuana/marijuana infused product. Paid by the retailer.

This tax is in addition to any/all applicable general, state, and local sales and use taxes, and is part of the total retail price.

All funds from marijuana excise taxes are deposited in the Dedicated Marijuana Fund. Disbursements from the Dedicated Marijuana Fund shall be on authorization of the WSLCB or a duly authorized representative.
Initiative 502 allows for the WSLCB to enact rules that establish procedures and criteria for:
The equipment, management and inspection of production, processing, and retail outlets.
Books and records maintained by licensed premises.
Methods of producing, processing and packaging of marijuana/marijuana infused products, to include conditions of sanitation.
　
Standards of ingredients, quality, and identity of marijuana/marijuana infused products produced, processed and sold by licensees.
Security requirements for retail outlets and premises where marijuana is produced and processed.

Retail Outlets

Specific number of retail outlets and licenses will be determined by the WSLCB in consultation with the Office of Financial Management taking into account population, security and safety issues, and discouraging illegal markets. The initiative also caps retail licenses by county.
Retail outlets may not employ anyone under the age of 21, nor allow anyone under the age of 21 to enter the premises.
Retail outlets are only authorized to sell marijuana/marijuana products or paraphernalia.
Retailers are allowed one sign identifying the outlet’s business or trade name, not to exceed 1600 square inches.
They are not allowed to display marijuana or marijuana related products in a manner that is visible to the general public.

Possession

If enacted, individuals twenty-one years of age or older are legally authorized to possess and use:
One ounce of useable marijuana.
16 ounces of marijuana infused product in solid form; or
72 ounces of marijuana infused product in liquid form.
Marijuana-related drug paraphernalia.
Individuals will still be subject to criminal prosecution for:
Possession in amounts greater than what is listed above.
Possession of any quantity or kind of marijuana/marijuana infused product by a person under 21 years of age.

Price

The Office of Financial Management places a price estimate of $12 per gram. Medicinal marijuana dispensary prices on average range between $10 and $15 per gram with some premium products exceeding $15 per gram.
Based on average retail mark-up practices, estimated producer price is $3 per gram and estimated processor price is $6 per gram.

Timeline

November 6, 2012: Public vote on Initiative 502.
December 6, 2012: Initiative 502 goes into effect (30 days after general election).
December 1, 2013: Deadline for the WSLCB to establish the procedures and criteria necessary to implement the initiative.
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I dont know about you all.... but im not producing and selling weed for $3 a g
 
TogTokes

TogTokes

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Yup colonugs knows what he is talking about. C'mon people read and try to understand these laws without making yourself look like a complete fucking retard....

As for when this starts. Dec 6th.. Not 2014.. That guys mad it sounds like to me. Haha..
 
Howard Stern

Howard Stern

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Yeah $3 a gram? I don't know anyone that will grow for that! LOL they are making roughly 8+ a gram and we will drop to $3? My problem is that the State/people think that somehow someone is just going to grow premo smoke and sell it for $84 an oz! What I think will happen is that the state is going to invest all this money into regulating and taxing MJ and they will have empty stores one week after they open! The state thinks that all the MJ sales will magicly just go to the state. I heard they were saying they will need like 8 metric tons of weed a year? LOL

Buy for $84 and flip for 300+? Pie in the sky ideas by Wa State in my opinion. Thanks for the good info colonuggs
 
kazmaxxx

kazmaxxx

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Howard Stern said:
Yeah $3 a gram? I don't know anyone that will grow for that! LOL they are making roughly 8+ a gram and we will drop to $3? My problem is that the State/people think that somehow someone is just going to grow premo smoke and sell it for $84 an oz! What I think will happen is that the state is going to invest all this money into regulating and taxing MJ and they will have empty stores one week after they open! The state thinks that all the MJ sales will magicly just go to the state. I heard they were saying they will need like 8 metric tons of weed a year? LOL

Buy for $84 and flip for 300+? Pie in the sky ideas by Wa State in my opinion. Thanks for the good info colonuggs
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thats $3 a gram before the what was it 75% or 50% tax lets just say 50% so thats 42.00 per OZ 672 per LB they will be harvesting with a combined at least eastern Washington will be good for something now a few months of the year. lol
 
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